Any early predictions on seedlings? How many teams go? Seems like all of NCS teams should have high seeds.
Division One NorCals?
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Yeah there will be 4. If one goes to the Open, they'll pull up the next highest rated team that lost in the quarters. If 2 go up, they'd pull up 2.
Def don't see 3 teams from sjs going with Sheldon and woodcreek going open. What other good SJS Division 1 teams are there? Last year I believe 11 teams got invited to division 1 NorCals
So possibly San Leandro since Freedom lost first round right? But freedom beat San Leandro. Does anyone know the criteria or body of work NorCals looks at?
You are correct, #6 SL would be the first team brought up since #5 Freedom lost early. Likewise, since #7 Foothill lost in round 1, if both DLS and Dublin end up in the Open, the next team brought up to D1 would be #8 Antioch. Regular season head to head or records don't enter into it.
Because they are the obvious stronger section. Outside of Sheldon and Woodcreek the SJS is pretty weak. And with both those teams going open sjs would be lucky to get 2 teams in NorCals. How does the Fresno qualify?
Some one probably knows this information better but over the last 3 prior years [2014-2017] it looks like this [basically 12 teams]:
4 from NCS
4 from CCS
2 from SJC
2 from Oak
This might be close with Woodcreek and Sheldon sure bets to go open. For the 2 SJC teams just look at who Woodcreek and Sheldonn played in the finals. For 2 of the 4 CCS teams pick up the 2 D1 finalist and add 2 D1 teams that play in their Open section bracket. Of the 4 NCS teams pick from these 5 if one team makes Open [DLS, Dublin, Heritage, James Logan, San Leandro}.
4 from NCS
4 from CCS
2 from SJC
2 from Oak
This might be close with Woodcreek and Sheldon sure bets to go open. For the 2 SJC teams just look at who Woodcreek and Sheldonn played in the finals. For 2 of the 4 CCS teams pick up the 2 D1 finalist and add 2 D1 teams that play in their Open section bracket. Of the 4 NCS teams pick from these 5 if one team makes Open [DLS, Dublin, Heritage, James Logan, San Leandro}.
Who does Fresno teams play? And assuming De La Salle goes open is there any predictions on the seeding? Dublin a 1 seed either way?
Yes the SJS is starting to backfill this year so if Woodcreek and Sheldon get pulled up, the four D1 reps will be St Marys, West, Folslm and Modesto Christian.
From CIF handbook:
http://static.psbin.com/1/n/2kz5jyjgvdqhep/2017_North_Regional_BB_Hbook.pdf
Northern California Regional Brackets
The CIF Northern California Regional Brackets will primarily consist of teams from the Central Coast Section (CCS), North Coast Section (NCS), Northern Section (NS), Oakland Section (OS), Sac-Joaquin Section (SJS), and San Francisco Section (SFS). Teams from the northern portions of the Central Section (CS) or Southern Section (SS) may be placed in the NorCal Regional Bracket. Each Section will determine the divisional placement for its schools that qualify for the state basketball championships. CIF-member schools will be required to participate in the division that they participated in during CIF Section playoffs (exception- Open Division). Sections may use their own established criteria to determine placement of teams in the five divisions based on the following guidelines:
Open Division
Division I
Division II
Division III
Division IV
Division V
Division VI
(Revised May 2014 Federated Council)
TBD
As determined by Section
As determined by Section
As determined by Section
As determined by Section
As determined by Section, but enrollment may not exceed 600 As determined by Section, but enrollment may not exceed 200
Note: Grades 9-12 are utilized for CBEDS enrollment. Single Gender Schools - The enrollment for single gender schools shall be doubled in grades 9-12 to gain a total figure for the single gender school.
Automatic Entries:OPEN Division I Division II Division III Division IV
CCS TBD* 4 4 4 4
NCS TBD* 4 4 4 4
NS TBD* 0 2 2 4 4 OAK TBD* 2 0 0 0 0 SF TBD* TBD** TBD** TBD** TBD** TBD** SJS TBD* 4 4 4 4 4
• SF will have two automatic berths and their entries will be placed into their respective division(s).• Sections with less than eight (8) schools in a division shall be limited to one (1) entry in that division • The committee may decide not to fill all brackets.• All sections are eligible to submit At-Large entries should openings exist in the draw. Teams must
participate in the same division participated in at the section level.• Teams must compete, and qualify through, their respective CIF Section Championships to
participate in the CIF Regional/State Championships. • The committee may decide not to fill all brackets.
Division V 4
4
http://static.psbin.com/1/n/2kz5jyjgvdqhep/2017_North_Regional_BB_Hbook.pdf
Northern California Regional Brackets
The CIF Northern California Regional Brackets will primarily consist of teams from the Central Coast Section (CCS), North Coast Section (NCS), Northern Section (NS), Oakland Section (OS), Sac-Joaquin Section (SJS), and San Francisco Section (SFS). Teams from the northern portions of the Central Section (CS) or Southern Section (SS) may be placed in the NorCal Regional Bracket. Each Section will determine the divisional placement for its schools that qualify for the state basketball championships. CIF-member schools will be required to participate in the division that they participated in during CIF Section playoffs (exception- Open Division). Sections may use their own established criteria to determine placement of teams in the five divisions based on the following guidelines:
Open Division
Division I
Division II
Division III
Division IV
Division V
Division VI
(Revised May 2014 Federated Council)
TBD
As determined by Section
As determined by Section
As determined by Section
As determined by Section
As determined by Section, but enrollment may not exceed 600 As determined by Section, but enrollment may not exceed 200
Note: Grades 9-12 are utilized for CBEDS enrollment. Single Gender Schools - The enrollment for single gender schools shall be doubled in grades 9-12 to gain a total figure for the single gender school.
Automatic Entries:OPEN Division I Division II Division III Division IV
CCS TBD* 4 4 4 4
NCS TBD* 4 4 4 4
NS TBD* 0 2 2 4 4 OAK TBD* 2 0 0 0 0 SF TBD* TBD** TBD** TBD** TBD** TBD** SJS TBD* 4 4 4 4 4
• SF will have two automatic berths and their entries will be placed into their respective division(s).• Sections with less than eight (8) schools in a division shall be limited to one (1) entry in that division • The committee may decide not to fill all brackets.• All sections are eligible to submit At-Large entries should openings exist in the draw. Teams must
participate in the same division participated in at the section level.• Teams must compete, and qualify through, their respective CIF Section Championships to
participate in the CIF Regional/State Championships. • The committee may decide not to fill all brackets.
Division V 4
4
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