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Folsom O vs DLS D - Question

What in the hell make you think dls fans are winning the battle of the board. I’m not keeping score but it seems somewhat close to me.
Well there are so many things for instance, sos and already claiming victory, that alone is two pick 6 for DLS. Not claiming the “Folsom rule” is another pick 6. They also have a few turnovers inside the 10 yard line. As far as the board game it’s already a third running clock. Obviously I don’t feel this is how the real game will end up. Just thought for those who are interested that’s how the board scoring is going so far.

I don’t care who ya are that’s funny right there.
 
Well there are so many things for instance, sos and already claiming victory, that alone is two pick 6 for DLS. Not claiming the “Folsom rule” is another pick 6. They also have a few turnovers inside the 10 yard line. As far as the board game it’s already a third running clock. Obviously I don’t feel this is how the real game will end up. Just thought for those who are interested that’s how the board scoring is going so far.

I don’t care who ya are that’s funny right there.
Folsom board members: 42
DLS board members: 35

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No problem. I figured why not inform my SoCal brethren on NorCals number 1 team. I figure the only thing that would have you more hyped for this game is if it involved Clayton Valley.

Why no breakdowns of SoCal teams for us? I know a few of us are looking forward to your in depth knowledge of some of the Trinity League teams.

Go Folsom!
There is the Trinity league (toughest league in CA) with Mater Dei and Saint John Bosco and Lutheran which at least two of the three and maybe three are at another level than DLS or Folsom in talent and play (the others in the league aren't chopped liver as well). All three socal teams are expected to be elite with the two at the top of the nation. Then there is Oaks Christian, Mission Viejo, Upland (expected to be very good), and Centennial Corona (stacked as usual talent wise and a perennial deep southern CA power). Serra Gardena (lots of D1 talent) and Chaminade, whom Folsom plays, was stacked last year but loses lots of talent but still has lots of talent (probably 2 or 3rd tier southern section). Both should be pretty good. Serra like always will have lots of D1 talent. Should be a good game. San Diego section looks down again for the second year and no team close to the socal powers. Central section: has Central (Fresno) which is like an SFL, WCAL team. Bakersfield and the southwest yosemite top teams which are typically strong are down. Overall Central has been down for a while. I'm sure there are other teams not mentioned, but seems this year teams like DLS and Folsom are in the second tier in the state (behind Mater Dei and SJB) and maybe Lutheran and there are probably another 6 others that might be a challenge or are considered stronger than all teams other than DLS or Folsom. Pittsburg plays Centennial and Serra - San Mateo and St Francis play two of the teams (Serra-Gardena and Notre Dame - Sherman Oaks). Lots of good football this year. Socal seems to be exceptionally strong this year to start. The season will tell.
 
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There is the Trinity league (toughest league in CA) with Mater Dei and Saint John Bosco and Lutheran which at least two of the three and maybe three are at another level than DLS or Folsom in talent and play (the others in the league aren't chopped liver as well). All three socal teams are expected to be elite with the two at the top of the nation. Then there is Oaks Christian, Mission Viejo, Upland (expected to be very good), and Centennial Corona (stacked as usual talent wise and a perennial deep southern CA power). Serra Gardena (lots of D1 talent) and Chaminade, whom Folsom plays, was stacked last year but loses lots of talent but still has lots of talent (probably 2 or 3rd tier southern section). Both should be pretty good. Serra like always will have lots of D1 talent. Should be a good game. San Diego section looks down again for the second year and no team close to the socal powers. Central section: has Central (Fresno) which is like an SFL, WCAL team. Bakersfield and the southwest yosemite top teams which are typically strong are down. Overall Central has been down for a while. I'm sure there are other teams mentioned, but seems this year teams like DLS and Folsom are in the second tier in the state (behind Mater Dei and SJB) and maybe Lutheran and there are probably another 6 others that might be a challenge or are considered stronger than all teams other than DLS or Folsom. Pittsburg plays Centennial and Serra - San Mateo and St Francis play two of the teams (Serra-Gardina and Notre Dame - Sherman Oaks). Lots of good football this year. Socal seems exceptionally strong thse year to start. The season will tell.
While I thank you for this insight, I was hoping to hear from our SoCal expert historians @ararar & @DelValleTrojan. They dont seem to like the SoCal forums and have found a home here. Let's give them a shot.
 
I am trying to understand the relevancy of this statement to this game here.
That was a year when 1 and 2 in the nation (mythical) faced each other and DLS the underdog defeated and was named national champs. DLS had Maurice Drew at RB on that team but not close to the overall depth of talent that Poly had. Several of the top high school players in the country. It was a stacked team and Poly was really elite in those days.
 
That was a year when 1 and 2 in the nation (mythical) faced each other and DLS the underdog defeated and was named national champs. DLS had Maurice Drew at RB on that team but not close to the overall depth of talent that Poly had. Several of the top high school players in the country. It was a stacked team and Poly was really elite in those days.
I am well aware of that game.

I am still struggling to find the relevancy between that game and DLS/Folsom 2018.
 
While I thank you for this insight, I am struggling to still find the relevance of this to the DLS game? The information you posted is available via public information and via our esteemed SoCal historians, in @ararar & @DelValleTrojan.

Maybe you meant the SoCal forums?
The question was asked and I have followed High School football in California since the late 1970's. The overall state since the mid 1980's and even wrote for this and many other internet publications. There are only a few on these boards that have been on here and others longer than me. I don't post as much on the national boards but still follow it due to time in my career. I also have probably won the pickem on this 3 years and been runner up several years and placed others. I follow NorCal football very closely and for many years. I am one of the so called pioneers on these forums.
 
My point was not who DLS played, rather that they lost to every team that was equal or better to Folsom. The only common opponent produced the same exact outcome. That's all that really matters. Not the what's ifs

DLS beat SJc which 100 our of 100 of the top hsfb national experts would have picked over Folsom last year

If the one common oppintent is all that really matters, why introduce CP SOS? No one besides you brought that up
 
DLS beat SJc which 100 our of 100 of the top hsfb national experts would have picked over Folsom last year

If the one common oppintent is all that really matters, why introduce CP SOS? No one besides you brought that up
It is all about matchups. Sometimes even common opponents can be misleading. Common opponents is one measure and then you look at strengths and weaknesses and matchups. Some times teams just don't match up and it can be talent, speed, coaching, schemes. The only so called elite team Folsom has tested itself against is the Spartans. Granted I do think this is going to be a good game, but outside of common opponents matchups is king. Example, some teams just didn't match up against Centennial Corona's offense and if they don't they win by 20+ points or more. DLS has played pretty well against the spread in the past and like the article referenced, the DLS pass ruch or time the Folsom QB has could come into play, but then again the Folsom QB is mobile and that could negate the pass rush. I will take DLS on this aspect and also the coaching. Folsom was out coached the first couple times - yes Folsom had turnovers, but their coach basically gave the game to the Spartan's when they didn't kick and the DLS defense gave Folsom fits. Maybe this is some great Folsom team, but in my mind they still need to solve (and that means the coach) DLS's defense.
 
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With all of the focus on Folsom O vs DLS D, we need to remember there is two sides to this game of football. Although Folsom O vs DLS D is going to be a huge test for both teams, I really believe the question we should ask is Folsom D vs DLS O. If Folsom has a weakness at LB, DLS's veer O will not be or will be very difficult to stop by Folsom's D. Folsom blew out St. Mary's in the section title game last year for two reasons. One, the Rams defense was no where near the same level of the prior year when St. Mary's in turn blew out Folsom. But, two, the Rams main weapon, Dusty Frampton did not have the O-line he had from 2016 and he got hurt during the first series and was out for the game. St. Mary's also lost the 2016 state game vs Cathedral Catholic when Frampton had to leave because of injury. Let's not forget what Frampton did to the 2016 Folsom D. Let's not forget how the prior DLS teams' offense shredded the Folsom D. Let's also not forget that DLS coaching has been able to put together a disciplined defense to go against high powered Folsom O's in the past. Those Folsom O's in the past were considered right up there as good as the offense Folsom brings to the field this year. But, IMO this year's Folsom O should be better. DLS's coaching will still be better this year. Let's also recall that Oakdale's running game gave Folsom's D fits last year. I tend to think DLS's running game is a bit better than Oakdale's. I don't see Folsom's D stopping DLS's O. Folsom D is good, but not that good. Folsom's O is very good, but not 2017 Mater Dei excellent. However, if past history has anything to say, the best time to challenge DLS is at the start of the season. Week zero lines up perfect for Folsom. I anticipate Folsom's O will give DLS's D "some" fits, similar to how Pittsburg vs DLS last year. But, my biggest concern is Folsom "trying" to stop the green machine. Just don't see it happening. I'm taking DLS in a 1-2 TD victory, with the game being very, very close in the beginning and closer than the final score will be. This game is still going to be the best NorCal game of the year - no doubt. Just hoping it will be streamed since I doubt anyone who tries to get tickets at the gate will be able to get in.

BTW, I'm picking DLS, but pulling for Folsom. Would love for Noah May and this year's St. Mary's Rams to pull off the biggest "upset" against a victorious (vs DLS) Folsom team in the SJS D1 section final. It would be nice for the DLS NorCal winning streak to come to an end, too. I know, I am dreaming ... lol.
 
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It is all about matchups. Sometimes even common opponents can be misleading. Common opponents is one measure and then you look at strengths and weaknesses and matchups. Some times teams just don't match up and it can be talent, speed, coaching, schemes. The only so called elite team Folsom has tested itself against is the Spartans. Granted I do think this is going to be a good game, but outside of common opponents matchups is king. Example, some teams just didn't match up against Centennial Corona's offense and if they don't they win by 20+ points or more. DLS has played pretty well against the spread in the past and like the article referenced, the DLS pass ruch or time the Folsom QB has could come into play, but then again the Folsom QB is mobile and that could negate the pass rush. I will take DLS on this aspect and also the coaching. Folsom was out coached the first couple times - yes Folsom had turnovers, but their coach basically gave the game to the Spartan's when they didn't kick and the DLS defense gave Folsom fits. Maybe this is some great Folsom team, but in my mind they still need to solve (and that means the coach) DLS's defense.
While this is a great breakdown of past DLS teams and past matchups, the fact remains that this is not a DLS team from 10 years ago. Not 5 years ago. You get my point. You, or nobody, REALLY know EXACTLY what they're going to get on the 17th. Let's be honest.

I just think Folsom has too much this time around.
 
Interestingly enough the Calpreps project a match up tool for 2018 has the following prediction on a neutral field.

Folsom: 42
DLS: 21
 
With all of the focus on Folsom O vs DLS D, we need to remember there is two sides to this game of football. Although Folsom O vs DLS D is going to be a huge test for both teams, I really believe the question we should ask is Folsom D vs DLS O. If Folsom has a weakness at LB, DLS's veer O will not be or will be very difficult to stop by Folsom's D. Folsom blew out St. Mary's in the section title game last year for two reasons. One, the Rams defense was no where near the same level of the prior year when St. Mary's in turn blew out Folsom. But, two, the Rams main weapon, Dusty Frampton did not have the O-line he had from 2016 and he got hurt during the first series and was out for the game. St. Mary's also lost the 2016 state game vs Cathedral Catholic when Frampton had to leave because of injury. Let's not forget what Frampton did to the 2016 Folsom D. Let's not forget how the prior DLS teams' offense shredded the Folsom D. Let's also not forget that DLS coaching has been able to put together a disciplined defense to go against high powered Folsom O's in the past. Those Folsom O's in the past were considered right up there as good as the offense Folsom brings to the field this year. But, IMO this year's Folsom O should be better. DLS's coaching will still be better this year. Let's also recall that Oakdale's running game gave Folsom's D fits last year. I tend to think DLS's running game is a bit better than Oakdale's. I don't see Folsom's D stopping DLS's O. Folsom D is good, but not that good. Folsom's O is very good, but not 2017 Mater Dei excellent. However, if past history has anything to say, the best time to challenge DLS is at the start of the season. Week zero lines up perfect for Folsom. I anticipate Folsom's O will give DLS's D "some" fits, similar to how Pittsburg vs DLS last year. But, my biggest concern is Folsom "trying" to stop the green machine. Just don't see it happening. I'm taking DLS in a 1-2 TD victory, with the game being very, very close in the beginning and closer than the final score will be. This game is still going to be the best NorCal game of the year - no doubt. Just hoping it will be streamed since I doubt anyone who tries to get tickets at the gate will be able to get in.

BTW, I'm picking DLS, but pulling for Folsom. Would love for Noah May and this year's St. Mary's Rams to pull off the biggest "upset" against a victorious (vs DLS) Folsom team in the SJS D1 section final. It would be nice for the DLS NorCal winning streak to come to an end, too. I know, I am dreaming ... lol.
Good breakdown. But I still go back to cautioning against past results, with different teams, and different match ups to predict this game.

Folsom has NEVER had this talent at the skill positions, or a mobile QB who could also sling it. Very different team. And yes this team does have more athletic talent than the 2014 team, although the line play, in comparison, remains to be seen. I have a good feeling though.

I would love to feast on St. Mary's again. It's always fun when the public school pushed around the private school.
 
While this is a great breakdown of past DLS teams and past matchups, the fact remains that this is not a DLS team from 10 years ago. Not 5 years ago. You get my point. You, or nobody, REALLY know EXACTLY what they're going to get on the 17th. Let's be honest.

I just think Folsom has too much this time around.
They may or may not. I said it should be a good game but
Interestingly enough the Calpreps project a match up tool for 2018 has the following prediction on a neutral field.

Folsom: 42
DLS: 21
At this stage of the season you might as well throw a dart art scores and you will be closer than Calpreps. They are notoriously inaccurate until a large enough sample and they have DLS as not as strong as last season (maybe because they lose some line and a very good RB), but people close to the program believe they could be better than the last couple years. Even when they have a large enough sample, they are relatively accurate on win loss but there are mismatches throughout the playoffs so don't know if it is because of that or the system is great at picking wins or losses. They don't pick all the winners and have been off on DLS many times. Calpreps will take last years score and add to it or reduce depending on their criteria - returners, QB returning, top defender, D1 talent, etc. and some teams reload or they just don't guess right. For example, they have the WCAL averages for some of the top teams lower when some may be higher than last year. Meaning they handicap them when they should have them as better teams this year. I'm sure it happens with the SFL in some cases as well.
 
While this is a great breakdown of past DLS teams and past matchups, the fact remains that this is not a DLS team from 10 years ago. Not 5 years ago. You get my point. You, or nobody, REALLY know EXACTLY what they're going to get on the 17th. Let's be honest.

I just think Folsom has too much this time around.
Of course it is opinion as it is yours. You don't know. And it is high school football. Anything can happen.
 
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They may or may not. I said it should be a good game but

At this stage of the season you might as well throw a dart art scores and you will be closer than Calpreps. They are notoriously inaccurate until a large enough sample and they have DLS as not as strong as last season (maybe because they lose some line and a very good RB), but people close to the program believe they could be better than the last couple years. Even when they have a large enough sample, they are relatively accurate on win loss but there are mismatches throughout the playoffs so don't know if it is because of that or the system is great at picking wins or losses. They don't pick all the winners and have been off on DLS many times. Calpreps will take last years score and add to it or reduce depending on their criteria - returners, QB returning, top defender, D1 talent, etc. and some teams reload or they just don't guess right. For example, they have the WCAL averages for some of the top teams lower when some may be higher than last year. Meaning they handicap them when they should have them as better teams this year. I'm sure it happens with the SFL in some cases as well.
The projection was just for fun and discussion. Don't take it personal.
 
Interesting. is this coming from the coach?

Obviously, I'm not speaking for the coaching staff. Hale is running the gauntlet for 5 weeks. He's not gonna get pulled mid-season unless he forgets how to play. The point is that he's not going to melt down. DLS will have two strong QBs heading into the playoffs. I can see them using both when the time is right.
I am well aware of that game.

I am still struggling to find the relevancy between that game and DLS/Folsom 2018.

You struggle because Folsom is “new money”. You all act like it. At least you certainly do. Running around with no shirts on, making videos, calling out the big dog when you know you’re a little loaded (relatively speaking of course). They have their cute little D12 rings, but the reality is that you have no respect for tradition and culture. That’s why you struggle. The program is built into EVERY DLS squad. That stands for something in HSFB. That is why I KNOW Sparty is going to win this game. But you have no clue, and I’m not surprised.

Yes. I know. I know....Folsom by 57.
 
Obviously, I'm not speaking for the coaching staff. Hale is running the gauntlet for 5 weeks. He's not gonna get pulled mid-season unless he forgets how to play. The point is that he's not going to melt down. DLS will have two strong QBs heading into the playoffs. I can see them using both when the time is right.


You struggle because Folsom is “new money”. You all act like it. At least you certainly do. Running around with no shirts on, making videos, calling out the big dog when you know you’re a little loaded (relatively speaking of course). They have their cute little D12 rings, but the reality is that you have no respect for tradition and culture. That’s why you struggle. The program is built into EVERY DLS squad. That stands for something in HSFB. That is why I KNOW Sparty is going to win this game. But you have no clue, and I’m not surprised.

Yes. I know. I know....Folsom by 57.
Wow. How convincing.

Now I totally dont think my team is going to win because of a sophomore QB who MAY throw it 5 times, and a legacy of players from 10 years ago, all who aren't playing on the 17th. Let's go with that.

Folsom by 7 to 10.
 
Wow. How convincing.

Now I totally dont think my team is going to win because of a sophomore QB who MAY throw it 5 times, and a legacy of players from 10 years ago, all who aren't playing on the 17th. Let's go with that.

Folsom by 7 to 10.

I’m done trying to convince you. We’ve said our respective pieces. You believe what you want. I respect that. But now, this is all just fluff before he witching hour for Folsom. Because on 8/17 Folsom’s gonna have to go out theree and prove it. If you think the De La Salle Spartans are just gonna roll over and lose this game by double digits as you claim...well....you’re entitled to your opinion. I think that DLS has what it takes in the right places to get the job done. Just my .02.

You are going to be very upset at about 10pm on the 17th. Haha....actually the reality will have set in long before that.
 
I dont think it is fair to compare DLS and Folsom schedules in the past. There is little comparison. When looking at SOS, you have to look at the top teams not the average over a season. If you compare the average of the top 5 opponents for each school in 2017: DLS: 70.5 Folsom: 56.72 That is a pretty large difference in top team SoS. Although Folsom fans could point out DLS 3-2 record against those top 5.

Previous years' SoS is meaningless at this point, as we get a game to watch instead of comparing Stats in 2018!

This ^

The attempts to say that the SOS is even by the Folsom contingent is pretty pathetic. Folsom never plays ANYONE at their level and then beats their chest for being unbeaten. DLS every year plays teams at or above their level.

Folsom is damn lucky to get this game, it fell into their lap.

It should be a good game. DLS needs to play fast and hard at the beginning of the game, 3rd quarter and 4th quarter and get points on the board early. Best way to beat Folsom is to get up on them in the beginning.

They tend to start slow and the best chance to get an advantage is early.

On offense, they spend the first quarter + methodically probing for weaknesses to exploit with a mix of run and pass. Once they have it figured out, they will fillet you and leave your guts hanging out on the field. Matchups are a real problem as they are athletic, fast, and big (where it counts). Their lineman on both sides of the ball are big. I've been on the field and up close and they're not the typical 6'0 240# to 6'2 250# lineman you see in most high school lines, they are bigger than that.

To me, the best way to beat Folsom is you have to contain Bennet between the tackles and get pressure up the middle, and you have to do your best to make life for Ngata difficult,.....which is doable but quite challenging. You need a fast physical corner who can jump with safeties who hit hard.

If DLS can do this, they can win no problem, but they have to start fast, get points on the board early during the probing period and be physical with the skill players, otherwise, its a track meet and the Ngata brothers and Bennett (The Reno Express) will make big plays all night and eventually take away your will.

I think if DLS can grind out some of their veer magic in the first few drives and move the ball up the field and score and then get a couple of stops while Folsom does their probing (I've seen lesser teams stop them early), they can create a gap they can hold on to if they continue to grind. I've seen Folsom make mistakes early too which must be capitalized on.

You can't give Folsom any momentum, if you do, you'll be William Wallace in the public square in the last scene of Braveheart.

Folsom's coaches are excellent and prepared and I think DLS is that one coaching staff where the X's & O's are at the same level.

Should be a humdinger. I can see either team win.
 
I am a Folsom fan but believe this is a bad matchup for them. DLS has better line play and more depth on the line. Folsom has lineman going both ways. DLS will pressure the QB and control the lime of scrimmage both ways. They will also grind down the clock and limit possession and big plays from Folsom. If both teams played a neutral opponent I think they are even or depending on style of play Folsom may have an advantage but DLS is Folsom's cryptonite.
 
This ^
Folsom is damn lucky to get this game, it fell into their lap.
This is one thing I disagree with. Folsom had the opportunity to play Cent10 and SJB two teams that were trying everything they could to get at Folsom. SJB gave them 5 dates to choose from and Cent10 2 dates. That’s when they called DLS. Why? Well it’s simple. Look at Folsom’s body of work last year topped off with a poor showing against a mid level team. That combined with there national ranking make DLS the luckiest team in California. These SoCal teams and DLS have to work for there ranking. And basically Folsom’s is given to them. It’s not Folsom’s fault. The way they do these ranking Folsom is ranked right we’re they should be. However it unfairly puts a HUGE target on Folsom’s back. I know this is going to upset Folsom fans. But I was there 20 mins after the DLS coaches found out. You would have thought they won the lottery. As far a HSFB go they did. The high fives and hugs were hard slaps. This does not mean DLS is going to win. It just means they are playing with house money as someone said. Go ahead and tear this apart. They are the facts. Now in 11 days Folsom has the opportunity to shut them up. I say good luck to both and give us a show to remember.
 
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Just out of curiosity. What was the highest nationally ranked team Folsom has ever played besides DLS who they were forced to play. I have absolutely no idea I’m just curious.
If anyone is curious about DLS’s. The last team they played was #1 in the nation and considered to possibly be the best HSFB team ever assembled.
 
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DLS has defeated much more talented teams with less talent.
I completely agree. I'm just a high school football fanatic. I see as many games as possible
DLS does not always have the best athletes on the field. But they will be the best coached. I am an Oakdale homer. But I do appreciate watching well coached teams. Folsom is well coached and has athletes. But even though I am a SJS homer to be the man you have to beat the man! As of now SLS is still the man.
 
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This is one thing I disagree with. Folsom had the opportunity to play Cent10 and SJB two teams that were trying everything they could to get at Folsom. SJB gave them 5 dates to choose from and Cent10 2 dates. That’s when they called DLS. Why? Well it’s simple. Look at Folsom’s body of work last year topped off with a poor showing against a mid level team. That combined with there national ranking make DLS the luckiest team in California. These SoCal teams and DLS have to work for there ranking. And basically Folsom’s is given to them. It’s not Folsom’s fault. The way they do these ranking Folsom is ranked right we’re they should be. However it unfairly puts a HUGE target on Folsom’s back. I know this is going to upset Folsom fans. But I was there 20 mins after the DLS coaches found out. You would have thought they won the lottery. As far a HSFB go they did. The high fives and hugs were hard slaps. This does not mean DLS is going to win. It just means they are playing with house money as someone said. Go ahead and tear this apart. They are the facts. Now in 11 days Folsom has the opportunity to shut them up. I say good luck to both and give us a show to remember.

Your premise is off but it doesn’t really matter but the rest I believe, as you were there.
 
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Did anyone else watch that clip of the Folsom team in the weight room doing clean and jerks? Who's their strength and conditioning coach, I'd be more worried that half the team will be hurt by the time the game kicks off.
 
While I thank you for this insight, I was hoping to hear from our SoCal expert historians @ararar & @DelValleTrojan. They dont seem to like the SoCal forums and have found a home here. Let's give them a shot.

Cashisking18,

I wish I could give a detailed breakdown of the SoCal teams to everyone here on this forum, but I grew up in Contra Costa County in the SF Bay Area and still reside here today.

Yes, I know as most everyone does who are the SoCal Big 3 MD, SJB, and Cent10. The reason I have some knowledge about those teams is because they faced DLS in the State Open Division games, but it’s nothing more than what one can read in the sports media and possibly learn from viewing different websites affiliated with those individual schools.
 
Just out of curiosity. What was the highest nationally ranked team Folsom has ever played besides DLS who they were forced to play. I have absolutely no idea I’m just curious.
If anyone is curious about DLS’s. The last team they played was #1 in the nation and considered to possibly be the best HSFB team ever assembled.

Probably grant in 2010 I believe grant was ranked top 5 nationally in that championship game
 
Grant or Serra-Gardena. Again
Just out of curiosity. What was the highest nationally ranked team Folsom has ever played besides DLS who they were forced to play. I have absolutely no idea I’m just curious.
If anyone is curious about DLS’s. The last team they played was #1 in the nation and considered to possibly be the best HSFB team ever assembled.

DD is correct. Grant was too 10 in pretty much every poll in 2010. That was a really good Pacer team.

The caveat though is that earlier in the season Grant destroyed Folsom 49-17 or something like that. When they met again in the playoffs, Grant had literally about 4-5 of their best players out with injuries including their #1 QB and Shaq Thompson. Thompson tried to play but was ineffective and came out of the game. Folsom won easily. I give credit though where credit’s due. Folsom improved significantly by seaons end. Graves really was on rolling and leading his team. Woulda been a great game if Grant was healthy. Everyone was looking forward to the rematch. I personally think Grant woulda won if all are healthy.

So that said, Serra-Gardena is their best win to me. They were top 20 nationally at the time of their game with Folsom.
 
Deltadodger you are correct. That is the year we started out ranked third in the nation and stayed there until folsom beat grant in the championship game because of injuries - yep i know thats an extra comment but sorry ya'll i had to throw that out there! :) Anyways no excuses! After that game i know serra or gardena was also ranked really high. Outside of that 14u2allnv, i would say any team they played in the state championship i believe would have been ranked fairly high.

Sorry spartanzrule,,, just saw your post and realized you beat me to the punch.
 
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The attempts to say that the SOS is even by the Folsom contingent is pretty pathetic.
Not ONE person said SoS was even. If you go back and read you will find that I and others personally said that the SoSs were NOT THAT DIFFERENT. Not one person said they were even. I even posted the actials SoS numbers for full comparison and transparency.

Folsom is damn lucky to get this game, it fell into their lap.
This might be the most outrageous statement on here. Even the DLS guys will tell you that Folsom went above and beyond to get this game. They even worked to get a game for Amador Valley against your school so that this game could happen.

If you're going to try and indirectly troll, at least do it correctly, with the correct information.

Also- I am a bit surprised you have went this route, considering the absolute demolishment that awaits your school/team in the near future. It will be ugly.

Lets keep it real.
 
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Grant or Serra-Gardena. Again


DD is correct. Grant was too 10 in pretty much every poll in 2010. That was a really good Pacer team.

The caveat though is that earlier in the season Grant destroyed Folsom 49-17 or something like that. When they met again in the playoffs, Grant had literally about 4-5 of their best players out with injuries including their #1 QB and Shaq Thompson. Thompson tried to play but was ineffective and came out of the game. Folsom won easily. I give credit though where credit’s due. Folsom improved significantly by seaons end. Graves really was on rolling and leading his team. Woulda been a great game if Grant was healthy. Everyone was looking forward to the rematch. I personally think Grant woulda won if all are healthy.

So that said, Serra-Gardena is their best win to me. They were top 20 nationally at the time of their game with Folsom.
I would have to agree that Serra-Gardena team was a legit team no doubt. Folsom is definitely a team that has to be taken seriously. Should be a hell of a game.
 
While I love talking about past teams and results (Folsom 2010, DLS 2014, etc.....) none of it really matters. I'm not sure why people are obsessed with the legacy team thing like in the NFL. There are literally ZERO players from the teams that we keep comparing. So why do it? This match up will include two teams which feature players that have NEVER played each other, to include the first time Folsom has played DLS without Troy Taylor. It is a completely different match up. On both sides.

To imply or even say DLS is going to do this or that, is just dumb. You dont know. Same goes for Folsom. We want know squat until sometime after the first quarter.

Keep up the banter though. It's been fun minus the few usual trolls. Let's keep it going guys. Good luck to all!
 
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