I think you have a hard time comprehending banter and analysis. Aspergers?
If you are offended by my prediction, you will he even more offended the night of the 17th when you see the score.
Keep it coming. I enjoy it.
Folsom O vs DLS D - Question
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If you are offended by my prediction, you will he even more offended the night of the 17th when you see the score.
Keep it coming. I enjoy it.
Both teams got better one team just got hit with the injury bug no doubt in my mind grant would’ve won the rematch that team was just too big and fast with multiple future nfl players from 2008-2010 grant had a strong chance of going to the open game 3 straight years if they took care of business
Deltadodger you are correct. That is the year we started out ranked third in the nation and stayed there until folsom beat grant in the championship game because of injuries - yep i know thats an extra comment but sorry ya'll i had to throw that out there!Anyways no excuses! After that game i know serra or gardena was also ranked really high. Outside of that 14u2allnv, i would say any team they played in the state championship i believe would have been ranked fairly high.
Sorry spartanzrule,,, just saw your post and realized you beat me to the punch.
I believe Grant had slipped in most polls by the SJS playoffs
I remember an unexpectantly close game against Monterey Trail
That was my first full year on message boards and my hobby was basically incubated on Grant-DLS vitriol on who should be Open team from North
Grant-DLS is a great game that didn’t happen at the right time (‘06-‘10)
I believe the situation can be summarized as Grant wanting the game and DLS having only lukewarm interest — then grant gets selected and wins Open, gets DLS’s full attention, but isn’t quite as anxious themselves to prove themselves as recent Open champs ranked #3 in country
People on national boards still ask why DLS doesn't play Grant and answer is always a bit complicated
The way Folsom was playing in 2010 with Dano Graves was so freaking beautiful. They were a team of destiny. Folsom blew out that Grant team with the injuries they had. Makes it hard to believe Folsom could have lost no matter who played. It was they're year. My fav of all time.
Both teams at full strength and Folsom would have won by 7 IMHO. It was no fluke considering they took it to Serra the next week in a game no one said they could win.
Both teams at full strength and Folsom would have won by 7 IMHO. It was no fluke considering they took it to Serra the next week in a game no one said they could win.
I get what your saying to a point. Yes these players have never played each other. But let me ask you this. Do you think any of the players on the Folsom team has ever heard of De La Salle? And why do you think that is? It’s a tradition that goes way, way, way back. It took 12 years to string together 151wins in a row. And although the players that we’re on the team at win 151 had nothing to do with the players in game 1, it mattered to them. Folsom fans don’t want to talk about the Helix game last year. It wasn’t a very good showing. But Folsom fans are the first to throw out there that they have 17 returning starters. I believe those 17 returning starters played in that game against Helix. Folsom is putting together a little tradition of there own. Win or lose, These Folsom players are putting there ass on the line in 10 days. It BETTER matter to future Bulldogs.
Yes of course.
And from what I've been hearing, the DLS kids are JUST as aware of the Folsom Bulldogs.
Cant wait!
Those Grant teams were great. I don’t think they had a shot at three straight opens. In 2008 you could have gone with either team. They chose Grant. And the score of that game does not reflect the beating that Grant put on Poly (the absolute worst coached team I’ve ever seen). Cent10 barely beat DLS in the D-1 game (I believe it came down to the last play of the game) and Cent10 was given the #1 ranking (previously held by Poly). The 2010 DLS team took it to the #3 ranked team in the nation Servite 48-8 in the open. IMO Grant would not have beat that team. Grant does play the type of football that can beat DLS and they have had the athletes to do it. The games for whatever reason just didn’t happen. All of this just my opinion.
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You are correct. In the computer polls, grant was up and down that year, but the Excellent 25 Rankings had them at 3 all year. I was pretty focused on the rankings that year because i was hoping to be in the open again and possibly see another norcal team outside of dls with a mythical national championship(wishful thinking on my part). Honestly their already might be another norcal squad that holds that honor. Maybe cordova back in day? Idk thats my best guess.
You are correct. In the computer polls, grant was up and down that year, but the Excellent 25 Rankings had them at 3 all year. I was pretty focused on the rankings that year because i was hoping to be in the open again and possibly see another norcal team outside of dls with a mythical national championship(wishful thinking on my part). Honestly their already might be another norcal squad that holds that honor. Maybe cordova back in day? Idk thats my best guess.
Because you clearly have no life to be able to post as much as you do here and in the National board. You are like an all day sucker.
Grant wants no part of dls now lol but we definitely had some teams that probably would’ve gave dls problems offensively and defensively. But dls offense would’ve gave grant headaches no matter how many d1 players were on the defensive side of the ball we always had problems staying discipline against the veer on off years when they played Bellevue that defensive line was just monsters probably won’t be duplicated ever again. Moving to the sfl has already changed the way grant practices they just have to find a qb. Don’t be shocked when grant wins the sfl in 2 years. Folsom shouldn’t have a problem beating grant this year but the rest of the sfl will
Defending open champs in 2009 that 2009 season I believe grant was ranked ahead of dls the whole time. That squad had 4 future nfl players on it. When rocklin best them rocklin wasn’t ranked nationally so of course they didn’t get the open game but grant was top 10 nationally and couldn’t punch it in from the 1 and a great kicker couldn’t angle it from that close. Then 2010 grant team featured a junior in shaq Thompson and a senior sample with a monster o and d line they just couldn’t stay healthy and that was the case for shaq his senior year. Even in those years I still wouldn’t have ranked them ahead of dls period I’m glad folsom gets to play them but a grant vs dls game should’ve been played a couple times by now
Wow. That was mean.
There is a national board for this stuff? Please link me. I'd love to play.
A 2008/2009 season Grant and DLS would have been a fun game to watch. Tough to say who would win. DLS lost a close one to a good Don Bosco Prep and Grant defeated Highland, ID and a good Sandy Utah team as far as out of state powers.Sandy went undefeated and was state champ and Grant went undefeated (DBP won state championship but lost an early game to a good but not elite Xavier and Sandy that year was probably a comparable team strength wise in retrospect - a very good program). The undefeated Grant nudged out a one loss DLS for selection to the Open game (and it was a little controversial because DLS was defending state champs). I thought that DLS team was average at best for a DLS team at the beginning of the season defeating a 4 loss Serra team early in the season by one point although they went on to cruise to an NCS title. That Grant team was pretty good. I remember that defensive front that was huge (especially DL) with quick blitzing LBs, and they had really good skill players on offense (Booker and the WRs). I was most impressed by the Grant QB in the Poly game. He had a gutsy performance...was surprised with that Rocklin win the following year on that last play stop of that huge Grant OL. Grant also defeated Burbank in the playoffs after pulling off a 4OT win earlier but were rolling at end of season. DLS was also rolling at end of the season and defeated an arguably better (or at least comparable undefeated Centennial). It seems that year Grant, DLS, Centennial and Long Beach Poly were all pretty close as far as strength and play. Games between any of those teams would have been good games. I remember watching Poly play Northwestern Miami and dominating and afterwards hearing the Miami loss didn't count for them as far as their season or playoffs (Florida counted it as a scrimmage?). I thought that was strange, but Poly took it to a huge and fast Florida team. In any event, it seemed none of the California teams stood out as far as being elite in the Nation a far as like a top 5 team - not like those Socal teams the last couple years. All were good and yes - Poly coach was terrible in the the Open Championship. I think a game between Grant and DLS would have been a pickem type as far as DLS was rolling but I could see Grant winning the game as well. In any event it would have been a battle and a great game to see. I have lots of respect for Grants HC as far as that program. They get lots of talent but he seems to have them in many years operating at a high level as a team. I enjoyed watching Grant in those years and still do know.
We shall see about the REST of the SFL
Looking forward to visiting your house. I know a couple of kids on Grant. Great kids. Be ready!
We shall see about the REST of the SFL
Nice little jab in there. It could be a rough year for grant but I wouldn’t be surprised if they also do better in the sfl than what they would’ve done in the delta based on having to play less veer teams.I know granite bay runs a version of the veer but they defend granite bays version better than Monterey trails
I think Grant will struggle this year. Once they get used to the physicality and pace of the SFL, I believe they will adapt.
I think next year they will do well.
I agree with your earlier comment that that adaption process will be more evident next year than this. Grant is great for the league cause it gives all the SFL teams matchup issues and it forces Grant to play teams that are well drilled, super disciplined and physical each play. I love it, it’s great for everyone. Grant will be ready and battle tested for the playoffs after a season in that league.
It’s funny how football goes, MT veer was pretty easy to shut down at all levels for us last season. They caused us more trouble when they were forced to throw cause their athleticism was able to take center stage and make big plays.
You’ll see mostly spread in the SFL except for GB as you noted. They’re gimmicky and veerish.
I’ve seen teams wear them down, out scheme them or just cut them every play on both sides of the but I have yet seen a team be more physical. If you watched them vs rocklin last year it was evident who was the more physical team on the first play
It was 24-0 in the 4th quarter. RHS subbed and Grant was able to score. Ohter than a few early big hits which drew flags, the Pacers were never in that game....Year before it took Rocklin melt down in the second half to lose 21-20......Pacers have always had hitters but need team play to win....
A lot of flags against grant even seen a roughing the punter on a block punt. But last year they played with a 4th still string qb rocklin and ran 1 play all game with a defensive coordinator calling the offense show me how many teams would be successful. Luckily rocklin and grant will play each other a lot more well keep track of who has the better seasons
Cute post by you. Still waiting on who the "they" is who mysteriously said the same things in 2013 about this matchup as now.
I am waiting.
There is no doubt that the Pacer have big hitters and a rough style of play. That alone doesn't win games. Programs that exemplify team play give the G fits and allows them to compete with lesser talent...hence Rocklin taking down the G in the section title game......it truly was a great game to watch....4 plays from inside the 5 with Booker-Butler and the Thunder held.....had the house on its feet!
GB is a fly team. There is no such thing as 'fly sets'. A fly team is characterized by their use of jet motion and fly sweep. GB reduces the amount of fly sweep that they run when they do not have an effective fly back.
Which means they're not committed to a full Fly offense, which was my point and why I don't call them a full fly offense. They will run other stuff even when it IS working, they're not a full fly offense. They're run some veerish stuff and other sets as well.
We can quibble over semantics but I have watched and broken down a lot of their film.
