Folsom v Clayton Valley Charter Thread
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Interesting, a coach running several failed 2-point conversions when two PAT wins the game. Why would a coach do that? What's the strategy behind it. Also, 10-12-14 weeks from now, how could this loss for CVC impact their post season? Curious MudsWhich crowd on the field...? The crowd carrying Folsom head coach off the field on their shoulders? Or the crowd pulling a tar and feathers wagon in the direction of the CVC head coach? Muds
Hey, NorCalSportsFan. My welcome from you might be withdrawn after you read the updates you started for the PG-Utah/Del Oro game on the what games are being web-cast tonight thread. Muds
I wish Folsom's head coaches would've given Qb Jefferies more chances to pass last year. I mean, when he was in games Folsom almost always ran. He only had a few passes if I recall correctly. I was worried the way the 1st half ended, Folsom was not in sync at all but came out playing great to start the 2nd half.
Interesting, a coach running several failed 2-point conversions when two PAT wins the game. Why would a coach do that? What's the strategy behind it. Also, 10-12-14 weeks from now, how could this loss for CVC impact their post season? Curious Muds
Won't impact their postseason at all, this is 2015 football. Everyone in and everyone get s a trophy. Just win your section.
Sometimes a win is a win and this is week 1 or zero whatever they call it now. People forget CVC is a lot better than any team Folsom played last year in there preseason.
CVC played well but I don't seem them representing anyone with that gimmick offense and no kicking game.
Folsom fumbled at least 3 times, all of which CVC didn't cause. Folsom also dropped a wide open touchdown pass that would have put the game away early. The game should have been Folsom by 14-20 points. CVC played well but don't be confused on which team was better.
CVC also had a MASSIVE roster, over 50 kids. Nobody played both ways. Most of the Folsom roster played both ways. It was interesting to see this kind of match up.
Folsom fumbled at least 3 times, all of which CVC didn't cause. Folsom also dropped a wide open touchdown pass that would have put the game away early. The game should have been Folsom by 14-20 points. CVC played well but don't be confused on which team was better.
CVC also had a MASSIVE roster, over 50 kids. Nobody played both ways. Most of the Folsom roster played both ways. It was interesting to see this kind of match up.
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CVC only stayed close because of Folsoms lack of offense. I witnessed the game and they literally couldn't put together an actual drive until the 4th. Terrible showing by both teams. Folsom won't be representing D1 this year. CVC will be representing D2 because they purposely play down into D2 so they don't run into good teams.
Coach Murphy is notorious for having a huge ego and going for it on 4th down from their own yard line.... Idiot
Coach Murphy is notorious for having a huge ego and going for it on 4th down from their own yard line.... Idiot
Coolio....how does going for it on 4th down translate to having a big ego. Your a freakin idiot. Your disdain for Coach Murphy or CVC for that matter, is quite obvious in every comment you post on here. If you knew anything about Coach Murphy and the shotgun wing scheme they run, as you profess to on this site, you would know that the scheme is designed to be methodical, churning outs a few yards at a time, with the purpose of controlling the game clock. If it's 4th down, in a short yardage situation (2-3 yards), in this scheme, typically you would go for it. Throughout his coaching career at Ygnacio Valley, Clovis East, or here at CVC, he has always shown a tendency to go for it on 4th down and more then often, they successfully convert.
Were there questionable calls in this game? I'm sure there were. It's easy to identify bad calls made during the game in hindsight, especially when you and I aren't on the sideline. How do you know Folsom will not be representing D1 this year? Because they barely beat an "overhype" as you often allude to, CVC squad? Folsom, has been the most dominant program in Northern California the past 3-4 years, with exception of De La Salle. Folsom will only get better and I fully expect them to be in a position to contend for the D1 spot for Northern California at the end of the year. And what information do you have that supports your accusation that CVC purposely play down, so they don't run into good teams? Dude, you don't like Tim Murphy, I get it? You don't care for CVC as a program, I get it? But if we're discussing why CVC lost the game, point out facts that relate to the game and not reasons related to a personal bias you have against the Coach or Program!
Everywhere Coach Murphy has been, he has done a phenomenal job in building the program into a contender. When he was at Ygnacio Valley, his 1999 team, which was perhaps one of the best YV teams to ever take the field, won a CIF championship, losing only to De La Salle, which in my opinion, was the best team they have ever had. While at Clovis East, they won sections titles, changing the landscape of football that had been dominated by Clovis West up to that point. Now in his short time at CVC, they have played in 2 Northern California Regional Championship games, losing in the state championship last year. He is a great coach and has done a phenomenal job in building CVC into a contender every year since his arrival. His resume speaks for itself. Give credit where credit is due.
Were there questionable calls in this game? I'm sure there were. It's easy to identify bad calls made during the game in hindsight, especially when you and I aren't on the sideline. How do you know Folsom will not be representing D1 this year? Because they barely beat an "overhype" as you often allude to, CVC squad? Folsom, has been the most dominant program in Northern California the past 3-4 years, with exception of De La Salle. Folsom will only get better and I fully expect them to be in a position to contend for the D1 spot for Northern California at the end of the year. And what information do you have that supports your accusation that CVC purposely play down, so they don't run into good teams? Dude, you don't like Tim Murphy, I get it? You don't care for CVC as a program, I get it? But if we're discussing why CVC lost the game, point out facts that relate to the game and not reasons related to a personal bias you have against the Coach or Program!
Everywhere Coach Murphy has been, he has done a phenomenal job in building the program into a contender. When he was at Ygnacio Valley, his 1999 team, which was perhaps one of the best YV teams to ever take the field, won a CIF championship, losing only to De La Salle, which in my opinion, was the best team they have ever had. While at Clovis East, they won sections titles, changing the landscape of football that had been dominated by Clovis West up to that point. Now in his short time at CVC, they have played in 2 Northern California Regional Championship games, losing in the state championship last year. He is a great coach and has done a phenomenal job in building CVC into a contender every year since his arrival. His resume speaks for itself. Give credit where credit is due.
It's been confirmed by NCS commissioner that the school population is based on The Football Program. Murphy has a huge ego. Going for it on 4th and 26 against Oakdale with a D1 kicker. That whole program is a wannabe DLS. Always in the news with some controversy. I can see you must be a parent of a kid that goes to the poor mans DLS. you'll never be like us unfortunately.
you'll never be like us unfortunately.I agree with the whole not kicking issue. This has to be a coaching ego thing. Playing against a team like Folsom where every point counted, and you elect to go for two EVERY TIME and go for it on 4th down EVERY time is just plain reckless. Especially with a talented team like CVC.
There is no way to argue for this one. It was flat out bizarre.
There is no way to argue for this one. It was flat out bizarre.
No sane coach would go for it every 4th down when the game is a one possession game the entire time. I've been watching CV/DLS football for awhile now and CV goes for two with the fake PAT the first TD EVERY TIME against a good team.
Thanks for the comedy Coolio. I don't have any ties to CVC, let alone live in California, even though I grew up there. So nice try with the alleged connection. In regards to your comment about CVC being a "wanna be" De La Salle, which program in Northern California, let alone the nation, wouldn't want to be like successful like De La Salle. So I guess its a bad thing to have two great programs in the same area. Funny thing, is that I am a De La Salle homer myself. I actually just got back from watching the DLS / Trinity game in person. Your an example of why so many people on these national high school forums can't stand De La Salle or their fans. Completely Comical.....
Highly doubtful an out of stater has ever heard of Clayton Valley... Just saying. It's a tiny school with no notable reputation so there's that...
That's all you got. hahahaha. If you paid any attention to what I stated, I grew up in the area. That being said, of course no one has ever heard of CVC, because the only school that exists in Northern California is De La Salle. Anyways, at least I know now to take anything you post with a grain of salt....
For some reason he's all booty buddies with Clayton Valley. Don't call it CVC. Only reason they went charter was football, so don't be a douche and buy into that.
G61...once Folsom gets untracked and gets the ball rolling....we will expect you to get back into character...hahahaha! Jk!
Coolio, yeah I am "booty buddies" with Clayton Valley.......and......Folsom.....and.......Del Oro......and.....Pittsburg......and.....Grant.....or any other program that plays good football. You see, I don't feel threatened by another program's success. In fact, I would hope that programs in Northern California in particular, continue to get better, perhaps even challenging De La Salle's supremacy occasionally, to help change the perception that Northern California High School football is weak.
Coolio, yeah I am "booty buddies" with Clayton Valley.......and......Folsom.....and.......Del Oro......and.....Pittsburg......and.....Grant.....or any other program that plays good football. You see, I don't feel threatened by another program's success. In fact, I would hope that programs in Northern California in particular, continue to get better, perhaps even challenging De La Salle's supremacy occasionally, to help change the perception that Northern California High School football is weak.
Lancer3622... I won't come unglued if Folsom loses. I would actually be shocked if someone didn't knock them off this year. Based on what I saw last Friday night, they are going to have to improve in order to win the section. A lot of new faces and underclassman now. So, we'll see.
I gain more satisfaction through seeing others go ballistic when DLS losses, or when someone thinks there town/city is better than others. Pure enjoyment. If you knew me personally, you would find out that I am rather laid back
I gain more satisfaction through seeing others go ballistic when DLS losses, or when someone thinks there town/city is better than others. Pure enjoyment. If you knew me personally, you would find out that I am rather laid back
G61...I hope Folsom gets better this season. It would be nice to see them continue to build upon the success they have had these past few seasons. I believe they have everything they need (coaches, players, community, etc) to stay on top.
Last year's team was special. They had the potential to beat any of the nation's elite programs, even De La Salle. I actually enjoyed watching you go back and forth with all the DLS homers and that is coming from someone who is a DLS homer himself. hahahaha. We all can't root for the obvious favorite right? hahahaha.
Last year's team was special. They had the potential to beat any of the nation's elite programs, even De La Salle. I actually enjoyed watching you go back and forth with all the DLS homers and that is coming from someone who is a DLS homer himself. hahahaha. We all can't root for the obvious favorite right? hahahaha.
Am I reading this right!?
http://www.maxpreps.com/high-school...-ugly-eagles-(concord,ca)/football/roster.htm
CVC has 85 man roster!? I knew they looked like a huge roster on Friday night, but wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder nobody plays both ways!
http://www.maxpreps.com/high-school...-ugly-eagles-(concord,ca)/football/roster.htm
CVC has 85 man roster!? I knew they looked like a huge roster on Friday night, but wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder nobody plays both ways!
Lancer3622,
Thanks! I hope they can build upon the success as well.
I thought I was all alone in my fight last year with all the DLS homers! LOL.
In all seriousness, I actually truly respect what DLS has done and still does. I think it's more some of the "fans" that bother me. But, I am sure you can say that about any team. I actually enjoyed being hated so much last year representing Folsom. The hate meant we were doing something good. I never thought I'd see the day. I embraced it! LOL
Cheers to a great upcoming season!
Thanks! I hope they can build upon the success as well.
I thought I was all alone in my fight last year with all the DLS homers! LOL.
In all seriousness, I actually truly respect what DLS has done and still does. I think it's more some of the "fans" that bother me. But, I am sure you can say that about any team. I actually enjoyed being hated so much last year representing Folsom. The hate meant we were doing something good. I never thought I'd see the day. I embraced it! LOL
Cheers to a great upcoming season!
I'm not sure about the roster size other from what you have posted from Maxpreps. I was always under the impression that Folsom has similar numbers in their program, but I guess my assumption was wrong? How do they look for the next couple of seasons?
I saw people mentioning the size of the roster as >50, but my count was much more. Force of habit, when they lined up for cals I count heads. Starting at the 45yd line on their side of the field, 9 rows on every yard line and 4 standing on the goal line = 85 kids dressed. So Maxpreps agrees with what I saw.
CVC's Eddie Juarez a few years back had a huge leg....he's a 5'8" dual sporter (a very good BSB player) in NAIA, Kansas...probably one of the few levels in college where an athlete can do two sports. Played club soccer in San Ramon for many years. My guess is if he didn't love both sports he could've been D1 PK...100% touchback rate his senior year??
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