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Ivan Rabb will announce his decision soon

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Ivan Rabb will announce his decision in the coming days. Seems like it is down to Cal and Arizona with Cal being the popular opinion. Going to be a huge day for the Cal program either way.

This post was edited on 3/27 6:03 PM by Streak One
 
Wow final 2. A bit of overkill, would be right up there with the Kidd commit, even though Kidd's came out of nowhere.

Followiing last night's NCAA telecast, KPIX listed that Cal had a shot at Rabb, Swanigan and Jaylen Brown. No Rabb, doubtful Cal has a shot at the other 2.
 
He would be crazy not to go to arizona. Miller is building a program that will surpass the legendary lute Olson.
 
larry, for some student athletes the decision making process is more than just about playing basketball on a basketball court with a basketball

hope to see you at haas pavilion next year celebrating the renaissance of nor cal basketball
http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?62260-cal-s-monster-class/page392

50 year decision#
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fjON1YA32E


This post was edited on 3/28 7:21 AM by shocky5

This post was edited on 3/28 7:25 AM by shocky5
 
California is a great university, Arizona is not. Rabb grew up in a family that values education. A la Shareef he will come back to Cal to complete his degree. He would be crazy not to go to Cal
 
Great get for Cal program if Rabb announces later today to attend.
With Bird already there, Oscar Frayer already giving early commit verbal before season began (2016)..
Nice to see some local HS standouts staying local.. (not that leaving is bad)

This post was edited on 3/28 12:50 PM by 1runtmc1
 
Arizona is not a great university? I have several family members who went there all engineers and all doing quite well. Don't make stupid statements like that. I have a handful of friends who went to CAL and do as well as my friends who went to SF State. You decide your destiny. The school doesn't. Look this kid is going to be in the NBA. Bird has struggled at CAL. Jordan Mathews has actually been a better recruit for the bears in that class. Why would you go there right now unless its for family reasons? They were awful this year.

Arizona is a powerhouse led by a great head coach and person. Hmmm… Gordon is a pro. Ashley will be in the league somewhere. Great move for Stanley Johnson to go to Zona. He's going to be a pro. Elliot Pitts is doing well. Making solid contributions.
 
arizona is an academically mediocre university with a 95% acceptance rate that has a very good basketball program

cal is the #1 ranked public university in the world that has the potential to become a very good basketball program

ivan rabb is a humble & intellectually curious young man that has been raised by his mom tami to be a well rounded individual, to not let basketball define him...oscar frayer has a similar values system too

larry, i hope you are not a high school counselor, you'd probably tell kids that san jose state is just as good as harvard, that it's up to the individual to fulfill their greatness (which is true)

in any case, i hope you will celebrate at haas pavilion the potential renaissance of college basketball in nor cal

btw, joe davidson has zero inside information re: ivan's decision and/or the cal basketball program
 
No, I do much better financially than a HS counselor. I know a lot of dummies who went to CAL. That is 90%+ of the football and basketball players who would never get into that school in the first place. Jason Kidd got in for god sake! Enough said. Its not like Stanford where you actually have to qualify like other students. You aren't smart just because you are amongst the elite. Maybe Rabb is in that very rare % but don't start saying Arizona is a bad school. We aren't talking about Univ of Phoenix here.
 
A friend of mine is a a graduate of both AZ and U of Phoenix and an Exec VP (high level) at a one of the largest tech companies in the world. I didn't go there, but wouldn't discount U of P. or AZ.
 
University of Phoenix Isn't even an accredited university. Makes Arizona look like Harvard.
 
Originally posted by larry legend33:
No, I do much better financially than a HS counselor. I know a lot of dummies who went to CAL. That is 90%+ of the football and basketball players who would never get into that school in the first place. Jason Kidd got in for god sake! Enough said. Its not like Stanford where you actually have to qualify like other students. You aren't smart just because you are amongst the elite. Maybe Rabb is in that very rare % but don't start saying Arizona is a bad school. We aren't talking about Univ of Phoenix here.
Shocky's word choice can be polarizing unnecessarily.

That said, he's in fact objectively right. Cal is the #1 public university in the world and one of the great learning institutions period. Arizona is a below average US university. It's not all about how much money you make though studies have shown Cal grads do far better financially right out of school. It's the quality of education. Simply an incredible experience. Arizona is a basketball factory. BTW, Cal gets 90k+ applications each year and accepts 5k. The lowest acceptance rate of any public university in the world. Arizona admits close to 75% of its applicants. Times have changed considerably since Jason Kidd matriculated and the academic standards for Cal's basketball and football players is currently very high.

Given we're on the NorCal website, one would think we would all enjoy Rabb's view which is simply that he wants to bring local pride back to college basketball. He wants to play with kids like Bird, Frayer and hopefully his good friends Swanigan and Brown. He wants to play in front of friends and families. He believes in where Cuonzo Martin is headed despite a first year where injuries and no front court depth robbed them of their potential.

For all of us, this is a gift. To watch great local players thrive in college? Kidd, Murray, Powe, Ryan Anderson - what a joy!

Let's hope Martin is starting a dynasty and that great academics and hoops can rise to the top. That we can watch our local stars kill it in the classroom and on the court and play in front of rabid, sold out home town crowds.

Let's take pride in our local players and our incredible local universities.
 
I hope he does pick Cal. Would love to see him play at Haas. Agree academically Cal is tough to beat. Rabb looks like he could leave college early for the NBA after a couple years and for that matter probably doesn't matter where he goes other than if he wants to get his degree while in the NBA. Would like to see the elite players finish their degrees before leaving for the pros, but the trend is different. In either even, Rabb will have opportunity no matter where he goes and will impact the program.
 
Hope he goes to UCLA.He could start right away,and they have some pieces in place.They aren`t very far away.Cal would be my other choice for him.Why would anyone want Cali kids to keep going to Arizona? Dont understand that at all.Sean Miller is no Lute Olson.Great recruiter,but not great x`s and o`s guy imo.With the athletes he has,had no business losing to Wisconsin,with all due respect to the Badgers.
 
I'm sorry Larry but there's a reason Cal is the #1 public school in the U.S. every year. The fact is that Cal is a more demanding school than Arizona, YOU ARE RIGHT that some can go to SF state or Arizona and be quite successful. A Cal degree for many majors just makes it easier to get in the door.

Let's not kid ourselves though guys; Rabb would not choose Cal for academics nor would 99% of kids in his shoes. If it were about academics his 2nd choice would be Wisconsin, UCLA, etc...WHY NOT, if he's projected to be 1and done, stay closer to home and allow family and friends to see you play more frequently.

Lastly, the Bird and Matthews comparison is tough. I would argue that Bird prior to his injuries was as productive, if not more, than Matthews. NOT taking into account being injured both years, Matthews has been the better play because he simply been on the floor more. Before I get killed, I like Matthews a lot so spare me the "hater speech."

I am a hater on the PG situation though. YEEESHH it's ugly. Wallace is NOT a PG and everyone else that played made me long for the days of Brandon Smith. And again before the green DLS machine tars and feathers me, he was a good HS point who was a train wreak in high major basketball.

CONGRATS to all players and coaches this weekend 6-6 ain't bad and let's keep the games at CAL. Same amount of people but felt the energy more.
 
No business losing to the Badgers? Are you kidding? Wisconsin has one of the best players in the country and are fundamentally better than more than 95% of the country. Miller did a great job coaching in that game. Wisconsin just made shots, difficult shots.
 
Wisconsin shoots 10-12 from 3pt territory in 2nd half and over 70% from the field in that game. It was the performance of the year on the offensive end. Arizona loses by 7 and wins 34 games this year. (34-4). There worse loss to Wisconsin. Lets get one thing straight. Miller can flat out coach. They will be right back next year.

As for Rabb would love to see him go to CAL but I'm thinking he's a 1 or 2 year guy. I hope Cunzo can build something big. Those nuclear physics classes can wait so spare me the CAL story about academics. We aren't talking about that community.

Bird lacks a killer instinct. Never has had it. Great player. Would love to have him on any team. Mathews isn't as talented but tougher. Bird is still a better pro prospect.
 
Stop with the Rabb 1 and done. It would be a mistake. Great HS player who should be a good player next year in college. He will not be an Aaron Gordon or Stanley Johnson as a frosh. He needs a couple of years to get ready for the league if he wants to play right away. Just turn on the TV and look at the NBA power forwards. Who is he going to guard. 2 years in college and he would be able to step into the league and play.

I hope he goes to Cal. Counzo Martin is a good man. Rabb would have a nice soft landing at Cal.

Congrats to O'Dowd for the great run. They are a class program. They have pulled the teams in Nor Cal up with them. Now who takes the mantle from them?
 
Rabb is a one and done player. He is a legit 6-10 skilled power forward with above average NBA athleticism. He needs to get stronger but that will come with age and time. He will be a lottery pick in 2016.
 
ANY kid who is a 1st round pick in the NBA, whether they are ready or not, need to jump at the chance. Guaranteed deal??!! Take it. Get a GREAT job out of college making $100,000 per year and it would take most if not all of your work-life to make the equivalent.
 
The landscape now is if you are a junior or senior in college, you're likely not good enough to play in the NBA. You are just a real good COLLEGE basketball player. If you have the skill and potential to be a great NBA player and at worst a contributing role player/specialist, go pro. The NCAA is exploitation at its very best.

Aaron Gordon is not going to get better playing against other college kids like he is going to get better playing everyday in games and practices against other pros that have the same skill level. He made the right move even though his offensive game is not as polished as everyone wants it to be before he turned pro. So why not work on polishing that offense up while collecting millions?

Rabb is already an NBA level player. His only growth he needs is adding strength, improving quickness and ball handling skills. He has a decent mid-range game that can be a lot better and consistent. He's an excellent passer out of the post and more importantly while doubled. His ceiling is as high as one of his favorite players Kevin Garnett but he can also be as decent as a Chris Bosh.

If he goes to Cal he can definitely learn a thing or two being that Cal is home to very decent stretch 4s in Abdur-Rahim and Ryan Anderson. I think David Kravish has played well enough to be a 2nd round pick and be another Ryan Anderson in the league.
 
This is silly. This is a choice that Rabb has to make based on a variety of factors. Basketball is certainly a big part of the equation, but both Cal and Arizona have good coaches and you do not have to go to a top 10 basketball school just to give yourself the best chance to be drafted high in the NBA draft or be best prepared.

The academic argument that Rabb should go to Cal because it is a better academic school is pretty weak. Arizona is not a crap school by any measure. Moreover, if academics was the over riding factor, then Rabb should never have crossed Georgetown off his list so early, as the academics there are top notch and they have a great history of getting big men/posts ready for the NBA. Obviously, that is not the driving force here and whether he chooses Cal or Arizona, I am sure it will be a well informed decision. The fact that he is waiting so late, speaks volumes about his maturity and thoughtful decision making process.

Congratulations to him for winning the Open State Championship and I hope he does well in college and represents Nor Cal hoops.
 
Laidbackcoach- Pretty much right on the money. My point exactly on the academic issue. Lets not get carried away folks. Like it or not he does possess NBA skill right now so whether premature or not to talk about that stuff is always going to come up. Wherever he goes I wouldn't be surprised if he's a contributor day #1 and a factor on both the defensive and offensive end. Haven't seen an offensively skilled big man like him in a long time.
 
By what measure can Sean Miller flat out coach?Because he consistently gets the top recruits in the Pac year after year?Yes,Wisconsin shot lights out,but Arizona had a big advantage in athleticism and length.Should have applied more pressure defensively,sped the tempo up more.Btw,Wisconsin was also getting some nice open looks on a lot of those 3`s.They made some tough ones,no doubt,but they got some nice looks too.
 
Sorry to break up the academics, education talk, Ivan will not choose a school because of the academics. Most of the one and done stars do NOT even considering academics as part of why they choose a university. If they did, does it matter if Cal is the #1 public school? Why not attend the #1 school regardless?

If he chooses Cal, he wants to stay close to home, Cal and Arizona offers that aspect in his final 2, after knocking out what 3 of his top 5. Why AZ over UCLA....probably the environment, facilities.

Given his desire to announce after Saturday's game, best bet is Cal is his top choice. Why did he not announce, guessing winning O'Dowd's first state title in over 30 years, is bigger than Ivan Rabb in his mind and given his team first nature....then again, maybe he wants to get to McDonald's find out where Swanigan and Brown's minds are at....."if Rabb picks Cal."
 
Raiderjohn- My bet is on CAL at this point and Academics have nothing to do with it. You are 100% correct. An african american head coach with the pedigree of Mr. Martin is a huge selling point. Yes that stuff matters. If it is CAL and he deferred annoucement so school can relish in the win hats off to him. That is a mature thing to do and he's obviously a team guy.

I look forward to watching him at next level. He's going to be tough.
 
Practically speaking, he will be on campus one full semester (or quarter).

My understanding is that most one and done guys take online classes their second semester (2nd quarter). This allows them to leave to train for the nba draft and be able to finish out the semester which helps the program with the APR standards.

Rabb could play at Chabot and still be a top ten pick in 2016.
 
Larry-Legend33, my bet is AZ. I heard from some friends down there that it's all but done but they don't know any more then anyone else but to me, it makes the most sense as far as basketball is concerned. Top 5-10 team in the country, tv exposure all the time, a much better pre-season schedule then Cal and don't discount his connections to the Soldiers and there connection with Arizona. Nike and U of A have had a long going deal with Olivier (Soldiers), who gets paid for delivering kids from his program to other certain colleges and U of A is high on that list.
 
I just hope he makes the best decision for himself and not what benefits the solders or what benefits mom like the ability to cater all events put on by cal there is so much floating around behind this decision that has nothing to do with academics or basketball.let's just hope he makes the best decision for him.

This post was edited on 3/31 9:58 AM by bones40

This post was edited on 3/31 9:58 AM by bones40
 
Norcalscout- I hope you are right. Arizona is a way better fit. You have to figure Ashley, Hollis-Jefferson, and Johnson will declare for NBA. Hollis Jefferson is an interesting prospect because he's so damn versatile. Rabb will start day 1 whether its CAL or ZONA. Can't wait to hear.

Also very interested in hearing about some of the other unsigned prospects. There are some steals available.
 
I think and hope it's Cal. I see him being like Abdur-rahim type. 1 & done. Help Cal get back on its feet & be a lottery pick.
@ LL you think Ashley is a 1st rd. Pick? I don't. Motor & strength still an issue. Can't see him banging with 4's in the league
 
No I don't see Ashley as a first round pick. Ashley doesn't shoot it well enough and is a bit undersized for a 4 in the league. He does have really good footwork and skill in the post but at 6"8 220 is that big enough? I love the guys game. His stock might have been higher before the foot injury last year. You never know though because he is talented. I certainly think he can make a long living if he keeps improving.

You know who I think is going to be good. Sam Dekker for Wisconsin. He's 6"9 and can play 2-3 positions. He's opening a lot of eyes in this tourney.

I see Stanley and Hollis going in the first round. Stanley should be a lottery pick unless something crazy happens. He's NBA ready today. Once he fine tunes his jumper look out. I could see him playing some point as well.
 
If Ashley isn't 1st rd. I'm hoping he returns for SR year which should definitely get Rabb to Cal. As a nor cal fan this is everything for Cuonzo to turn things around. Keep the Soldiers at home!
I agree on Dekker. He's a player. Has some chandler parsons, Gordon Haywood game.
Did Paris sign or just verbal? I'll take his heart & skills over anybody Cal has on the backcourt minus wallace
 
What's the hurry for him to go to the league? Why not fine tune your game and work on finishing school in the process. Yes the money and fame is very alluring, but what about life after basketbal?
 
lovin basketball with all due respect, Ivan Rabb will be a top 10 pick when he enters the NBA draft, barring injury. His first chance will be in June 2016, sometime thereafter in July, he will sign at MINIMUM a 2 year 5 million dollar guaranteed(using Elfrid Payton's deal)contract. If he is not satisfied with the NBA after those 2 years, he has 3 million or so in the bank after taxes.....I ask you what 21 year old person has 3 million dollars in the bank, at that point, as you suggested, he can go to school and complete the final 3 years of his education. If you are allowed to take home 3 million dollars, are you going to toss it away. Those additional 3 years that you decide to go the Tim Duncan route, are a major risk, injuries. And in an arena where your game is picked apart, that next hotshot 20 year old will pass you up in the draft, another risk you take on, not as great as the injury risk, but a risk nevertheless, the more you put off taking the money, the greater the risk that you lose it.

In addition you toss in the new TV contract kicking in, in 2016....that 5 million for a 10th pick will no doubt increase.
 
I would have to agree with raiderjohn, Rabb is a special player and to pass up millions is a once in a lifetime opportunity. He will be in a similar situationa Gordon and be in the league for a long time barring injury. School will always be there, but millions won't. Just ask yourselves this question. If a job you really loved offered you millions would you take it or pass it by and wait? I would say 99% would take the dough! Invest and save wisely and he will live a good life money wise.
 
Raider- Agree with you.

Is it just me or does anybody think he could be better than Gordon? Offensively he's much more skilled. Its actually not even close. Gordon has been injured the entire year so hard to say. Gordon ads a lot of versatilty because he can guard 2-3 players but until he refines he shot he will just be sort of a hustle player and finisher.
 
In terms of measurables and the way the game is shifting away from post play, you'd have to go with Gordon over Rabb. The skill set you have in Gordon is not coachable, the jumping, the athleticism, the thing that was pointed out numerous times, is Gordon's lack of an outside shot is going to hurt him in the long run and it has, at least in terms of PT, when he has been healthy. It's difficult to have a Payton and Gordon in the lineup at the same time, defenses pack the paint. Plus the Magic despite the record has vets in front of him in Tobias Harris, Moe Harkless, Channing Frye, in addition still has not defined his position, is he a 3 or a 4? A midseason coaching change hurts as well, different eyes....different views on a tweener. The plus, Gordon has time on his side and his all out mentality and athleticism, you can't coach, even as a 6th man, the guy can find a niche as an energy guy off the bench.

Rabb's game is still evolving, his ability to be ambidextrous at the glass is a major advantage, you don't know which side to pinch. He should be able to add another 15-20 pounds to his frame and become a true low post player, a skill set that he can develop over the years......ie Olajuwon. 6-10 post players are a rare breed now, 1 and dones, Dirk Nowitzki are the major culprits as kids play at 15 feet+ today.
 
Why any 5 star basketball or football player would want to go to Cal is beyond me.
 
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