Sierra Canyon on paper is 20+ pts. Good luck beating De La Salle by 20 points. When has that happened? They will under achieve. Sac high nearly beat Sierra Canyon last year. They return almost there entire team. Sheldon has no size. That will catch up to them.
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Sierra Canyon underachieved last year with juniors and sophomores and Ira Lee out all year... my money is on them in the open...
Well I guess the JV division was better than you would like to give credit for, being that SRV beat Monte Vista in decisive ways, keeping Mitu to about five points. Stangs were a great team but I hope you were not ripping on a state champion. I'm sure that was not your intent. The bottom line is that the EBAL has a great chance to see three straight state champions and we should all be proud of that.
I don't think it comes as a shock to anyone where you stand with your school. DLS has got the ability to be a great team this year. They have the seasoned veterans and experience. They should be a clear favorite to win state because that would be a shame if those guys were never able to accomplish what many expected them to do especially when their league friends have already raised their banners.
I know the above may have come off as a shot but it's all or nothing this year and I hope the pressure in the postseason does not affect them. Like I said earlier it would be quite the accomplishment if three straight EBAL teams can pull it off!
sports09 you seem to know any and everything about Ratinho and DLS, is there a relation? And I think your comment about Nikil Peters and his crappy selection of the Soldiers Blue team he played on was tasteless.
Of course I know this board is filled with fathers of players, guardians and family of players, coaches masquerading as normal members, and super supporters of "our team" pushing that schools agenda.
But the one thing I can never understand is why is this exclusive of giving any other team/school their due?
DLS is a really good team! They have been since even before Allocco. (Cochimilio/ Reynauld) Frank put them on a national stage with his coaching tenure. The one thing that irks me about DLS fans is their blind allegiance to the thought that no one can beat them. That they will run through the open. That they will be the best team in the North.
Even though I am another team/school supporter I can recognize that DLS is good and can probably make a run at an Open or D-1 title. This is even though I think the team I support has an equally good if not better chance to do the same thing. Actually there are about 4 or 5 teams in the North that could win the Open Division, but some of you (you know who the posters are) lose all credibility in being partial because of your rants about how DLS will finish.
But the one thing I can never understand is why is this exclusive of giving any other team/school their due?
DLS is a really good team! They have been since even before Allocco. (Cochimilio/ Reynauld) Frank put them on a national stage with his coaching tenure. The one thing that irks me about DLS fans is their blind allegiance to the thought that no one can beat them. That they will run through the open. That they will be the best team in the North.
Even though I am another team/school supporter I can recognize that DLS is good and can probably make a run at an Open or D-1 title. This is even though I think the team I support has an equally good if not better chance to do the same thing. Actually there are about 4 or 5 teams in the North that could win the Open Division, but some of you (you know who the posters are) lose all credibility in being partial because of your rants about how DLS will finish.
Lovin, my kid does not attend DLS, he attends another EBAL school. But seeing this team and that kid play over the past 3 years and my kid playing against all these kids this past summer is why I say this! And yes my comment about Peters playing with soldiers Blue may have been tasteless, but true. He is way better then that team! He is a beast and will be a great D1 player by the end of this year.
Fenton, I am neither a DLS fan or supporter, just a fan of HS basketball and since I live in the East Bay I do get a chance to see them play a few times a year. My kids did not not go to DLS, but I do have friends who played or had kids who played at DLS both pre and with Allocco and I know a lot about the program. I have no blind allegience to DLS, in fact I probably root against them more often than I root for them depending on who they are playing. I just know they have a talented group of kids (especially if Asiasi plays this year) who are capable of making a run this season. I did not say they "will run through the Open", but did say they "might" run through NorCal depending on their schedule which I have not seen. I said they should be the favorite (my opinion) this year for NorCal, although I agree there are plenty of other teams capable of beating them.
A lot depends on how the new coach pans out. I have met AJ and he seems like a great choice for the job, and I know he has an excellent coaching resume and is a DLS alum. There is no reason to beleive he won't do a good job with this special group of kids. Will they win it all? Maybe? They have as good a chance as anyone else. They might not even win the EBAL. I don't expect MV or SRV to just lay down for them and let them take the crown. Should be fun season.
I didn't got to DLS either! I played against them growing up but I love how they play the game which is why I say the things I do. This team is loaded. Will they run through some teams. Yes. I see many routes in there future. There will be close games too. I see they are playing Orange Lurtheran, Jesuit from Dallas, Centennial Corona, and I'm sure a few other tough non league games. Can't wait for the season.
New coach at De La Salle.......lets give him a few games under his belt before we ask for a state title.....lol
Well if it can be done at SRV by a rookie coach then why not a private school with a damn solid squad? Pressure will be there for this year to be a state team. That is the nature of the beast
East Bay- your right. It can be done at the divisional brackets. Not going to happen in the Open. Its almost as if people on this board are trying to compare SRV's title to O'Dowds.
Absolutely no comparison.
Absolutely no comparison.
you are right. A public school is a much different playing field than a private school. I would like to think that the accomplishment of a team that has the ability to pool from all over the area against another team that has the same abilities is put in perspective. Didn't the So Cal from Chino feature a pair of players that are going to UCLA and they end up losing to a team that finished third in league and swept three times by DLS? You are right, a public school that can claim a title like that is no comparison.
LOL East Bay- Funny thing is ODowds best players, Rabb and Austin both lived within walking distance to O'Dowd.So please stop with the recruiting. O'Dowd may be on of the school's that doesn't recruit. Does anyone know how far Ratinho lives from DLS? I think what SRV did is great, just not on the same level. Its kind of like winning a Adult Softball Championship and comparing it to winning the World Series. Just doesn't compare although you can call yourself a champion.
I've heard Ratinho is from Livermore, which is 30+ miles from DLS depending on where in Livermore.
The vast majority of DLS and other Catholic high school kids come out of Catholic elementary and junior high schools, many of which have highly-organized sports programs, much more so than public schools tend to have. Watch, say, a 7th-grade hoops game in a Catholic league sometime, and compare it to the ratball seen in a typical 7th-grade public-school game. For that matter compare public v. Catholic 4th-grade games... By the time they get to high-school age, they are well ahead of most public-school kids in terms of fundamentals, discipline, mindset, and training.
Since there are no Catholic high schools in the Livermore/Pleasanton area, these same well-trained Catholic kids from there tend to choose DLS, or maybe St. Mary's of Stockton, or Central Catholic of Modesto. So, those and other Catholic high schools everywhere tend to get accused of "recruiting" when they are in reality just receiving the kids that are already in the Catholic system in nearly all cases.
For example, I remember one time a few years back seeing a DLS hoops roster that showed where the kids came from... In that case, ALL of DLS's varsity hoops players had come out of the area's Catholic jr. high schools. While I'm sure there are occasional exceptions, my guess is that this is likely the case most the time, at DLS and other Catholic schools.
So, those who complain about losing "their" area kids to Catholic high schools 30 miles away are in most cases complaining about "losing" kids that are already gone and have been ever since they first enrolled at a Catholic elementary or jr. hi.
This observation comes from a non-Catholic, btw... I didn't go to DLS or any other Catholic school, either. I'm just stating an opinion based on what I've observed at games over many years...
btw, I just noticed at calpreps recently that there is a Catholic school in the works for Livermore, opening date to be determined. I have absolutely zero idea how far along this new school is in development; I don't even know if a shovel has hit the ground yet, nor what the planned size of the school will be. If/when this new school opens, it'll be interesting to see what happens in East Bay sports if that new school turns out to be a "player"...
Since there are no Catholic high schools in the Livermore/Pleasanton area, these same well-trained Catholic kids from there tend to choose DLS, or maybe St. Mary's of Stockton, or Central Catholic of Modesto. So, those and other Catholic high schools everywhere tend to get accused of "recruiting" when they are in reality just receiving the kids that are already in the Catholic system in nearly all cases.
For example, I remember one time a few years back seeing a DLS hoops roster that showed where the kids came from... In that case, ALL of DLS's varsity hoops players had come out of the area's Catholic jr. high schools. While I'm sure there are occasional exceptions, my guess is that this is likely the case most the time, at DLS and other Catholic schools.
So, those who complain about losing "their" area kids to Catholic high schools 30 miles away are in most cases complaining about "losing" kids that are already gone and have been ever since they first enrolled at a Catholic elementary or jr. hi.
This observation comes from a non-Catholic, btw... I didn't go to DLS or any other Catholic school, either. I'm just stating an opinion based on what I've observed at games over many years...
btw, I just noticed at calpreps recently that there is a Catholic school in the works for Livermore, opening date to be determined. I have absolutely zero idea how far along this new school is in development; I don't even know if a shovel has hit the ground yet, nor what the planned size of the school will be. If/when this new school opens, it'll be interesting to see what happens in East Bay sports if that new school turns out to be a "player"...
The new Catholic high school in Livermore has been in the works for some time now, as I remember hearing about it 5 or 6 years ago. I believe it was supposed to have already opened per the original plans, but they got shelved a few years ago for some reason and it is now on the back burner. If and when it does get the go ahead and eventually opens, there should be a rather large areas they will draw from as it will be situated a ways from DLS, Moreau, BOD & Stockton/Modesto. Could even draw kids from the Brentwood/Antioch area over Vasco.
