League champions' home game

[ClayK]

If the process wasn't so cumbersome, this would have been changed long ago.

it makes no sense Campolindo should have to drive to Ukiah, a team they already beat, to play in the first round of North Coast. Just because Campalindo happens to have the top seed in the entire section in its league means that the Cougars must go on the road. Ukiah plays in a weak league but even then, Ukiah lost in the tournament. But the regular season champion gets the automatic bid, and thus Ukiah hosts Campalindo. This makes no sense.

Unfortunately, to change this rule, a coach has to start at his league basketball meeting. Then if everyone agrees it goes to the athletic directors. The athletic directors must then approve, and forward it on to North Coast. North Coast then puts it in a committee, and if the committee approves, then it goes on the agenda for the Board of Governors. And then the Board of Governors would vote..

But administrative reality says that winning a league title deserves something even if that league doesn't have a team as good as Acalanes or San Ramon Valley, which means it would probably get voted down. What this does is penalize teams who are in leagues with really strong programs. Remove Acalanes from the Diablo Athletic League, and maybe Campo is a league champion. Or put Campeau and Ukiah's league, and maybe they're a league champion.

But it hardly seems a reward for being a higher seed to have to drive 2 1/2 hours to play on somebody's homecourt, especially someone you are seeded higher than, and have already beaten.

 

[northbaybbguru]

To further add to your post....

For those that don't understand how the NBL Oak and Redwood leagues are determined.

The ADs get together and decide who the best 6 teams in the NBL are and put them in the Oak placing teams 7-12 in the Redwood "league". This is on a 2 yr time frame then redo. The fact the the "league champion" from the Redwood gets a bye is ridiculous.

Some teams go into that meeting and FIGHT TO BE IN THE REDWOOD. Im not talking perennial bad teams like say an Elsie Allen. Im talking about programs that have had success, most notably Healdsburg who in the last 2 seasons won 27 and 24 games, won the league both times and STILL argued to stay down....meanwhile Ukiah last year went 1-7 in the Oak, got relegated to the Redwood and went 10-0, in case one was wondering just how much of a difference there is between the 2 leagues.

The case can be made that the NBL Redwood league is the worst sports league (any sport) in Northern Calif.

 

[winetot]

If the process wasn't so cumbersome, this would have been changed long ago.

it makes no sense Campolindo should have to drive to Ukiah, a team they already beat, to play in the first round of North Coast. Just because Campalindo happens to have the top seed in the entire section in its league means that the Cougars must go on the road. Ukiah plays in a weak league but even then, Ukiah lost in the tournament. But the regular season champion gets the automatic bid, and thus Ukiah hosts Campalindo. This makes no sense.

Unfortunately, to change this rule, a coach has to start at his league basketball meeting. Then if everyone agrees it goes to the athletic directors. The athletic directors must then approve, and forward it on to North Coast. North Coast then puts it in a committee, and if the committee approves, then it goes on the agenda for the Board of Governors. And then the Board of Governors would vote..

But administrative reality says that winning a league title deserves something even if that league doesn't have a team as good as Acalanes or San Ramon Valley, which means it would probably get voted down. What this does is penalize teams who are in leagues with really strong programs. Remove Acalanes from the Diablo Athletic League, and maybe Campo is a league champion. Or put Campeau and Ukiah's league, and maybe they're a league champion.

But it hardly seems a reward for being a higher seed to have to drive 2 1/2 hours to play on somebody's homecourt, especially someone you are seeded higher than, and have already beaten.

At least Campo was seeded higher as they did beat them head to head. If we are going to allow a D1 school to drop to D3, D2 to drop to D4 and D3 to D5 for competitive equity the least we can do is allow the schools who are league champions to get a home game as the odds are stacked against them anyway.

 

[observer22]

At least Campo was seeded higher as they did beat them head to head. If we are going to allow a D1 school to drop to D3, D2 to drop to D4 and D3 to D5 for competitive equity the least we can do is allow the schools who are league champions to get a home game as the odds are stacked against them anyway.

I really don’t have a problem with a league champion getting a home game, although this Redwood league example seems pretty absurd. I go back to the days that only league champions advanced to the playoffs/TOC. There were no 4th place teams in the postseason to have to go on the road.

So in that respect, if a few of the many, many wild card entrants have to jump a few hoops to play in the postseason, they’ll still enjoy and remember those games.

 

[ClayK]

Winning your league depends on how many teams in your league actively recruit. That doesn't seem like an equitable way to determine who hosts in the first round, given that the homecourt advantage can be significant.

 

[winetot]

Winning your league depends on how many teams in your league actively recruit. That doesn't seem like an equitable way to determine who hosts in the first round, given that the homecourt advantage can be significant.

You coach at Carondelet, correct?

 

[ClayK]

Yes.