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Making Sense of the California High School Football Polls

Aug 21, 2022
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Trying to figure you the method that Maxpreps uses for its top 25 poll;

Cathedral Catholic gets blown out by Centennial Corona 42-7 and yet they move up one spot to #5 in the state. Hard to figure. Fyi, Cathedral Catholic hosts DLS in a few weeks.
 
Cathedral is ranked #41 in the Country who were defeated by Cen10 42-7 ranked #3 in State and 6th in Country. St. John Bosco #1 state/country defeated Allen #56 country 52-14. so why would Cathedral Catholic not be moved up when teams in the state top 10 would have been smeared by Cen10. Cal-Hi-Sports has Cathedral at #10...Rationale below is an article from Cal-hi to give you some more perspective.



10. (10) Cathedral Catholic (San Diego) 1-1
So what. The Dons lost 42-7 to Corona Centennial so why should their ranking change? Since any other team we could put at No. 10 in the state would very likely suffer the same fate, we’ll keep Cathedral Catholic at No. 10 (just ahead of the team they beat in last year’s CIF SoCal D1-AA final). The Dons also stay No. 1 for San Diego and it looks like the computer and most others agree. Cathedral could only get to 138 yards of offense against the Huskies and their only TD of the game came on a pick six. The schedule also still has plenty of tough games to get through, beginning this week at home with an Honor Bowl matchup vs Chandler of Arizona (one of the top teams from that state). A game at home against De La Salle of Concord also is coming up.
 
Trying to figure you the method that Maxpreps uses for its top 25 poll;

Cathedral Catholic gets blown out by Centennial Corona 42-7 and yet they move up one spot to #5 in the state. Hard to figure. Fyi, Cathedral Catholic hosts DLS in a few weeks.
We will know how good SDCC is after This Week…. They Play Max Prep National #10 Ranked Chandler from AZ….
 
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Trying to figure you the method that Maxpreps uses for its top 25 poll;

Cathedral Catholic gets blown out by Centennial Corona 42-7 and yet they move up one spot to #5 in the state. Hard to figure. Fyi, Cathedral Catholic hosts DLS in a few weeks.
Maxpreps (really, calpreps.com) didn't move Cathedral Catholic anywhere. Calpreps does not do rankings. They do ratings. No, that's not the same thing. Movement on the Calpreps list depends on the result of their own game as well as the results of the games around them.

In the specific case of Cathedral Catholic, the Centennial result doesn't actually impact much. I know that sounds weird, but here's how it works...

Cathedral Catholic's rating is currently 60.6. Corona Centennial's rating is 89.6. In any situation, Calpreps did not expect this game to be within 28 points, which is the cutoff for blowouts. The result was a 35-point loss, so its impact is much lower than if the game had finished at a 21-point deficit, as an example, or if the rating gap between the two teams wasn't greater than 28. Beyond 28, any blowout is the same. Despite the fact that the game was won by 35, the game rating for the Dons was 61.6 (Centennial's rating, minus 28). What made an impact for Cathedral was actually the loss that Mater Dei Catholic (their first opponent and not to be confuse with Mater Dei of Santa Ana) had against Carlsbad.

Teams around them probably had similar expected results and so the fact that the rating only slightly moved, it didn't really impact where they ended up on the rating list.

To further illustrate how the ratings are different than rankings, look at #s 1 and #3. #1 St. John Bosco is rated at 110.7, while #3 Centennial is 89.6. That's a gap of 21.1, but only two places. Now consider a similar rating gap starting with #50. #50 Parish Episcopal (Texas) is rated at 58.6. There are three teams rated 21.1 points lower at 37.5. They are actually #s 267-269, over 200 spots lower.

Ratings and rankings are not the same.
 
I don't mind keeping a team in the same spot when they lose (even a blowout) to one of the elite teams. Moving a team up a spot like the original poster mentioned is a little tougher to figure out.
At the same time, if a team has an unimpressive win, shouldn't they be moved down? Looking at Vanden.
 
At the same time, if a team has an unimpressive win, shouldn't they be moved down? Looking at Vanden.
Moving a team down is different that what I was talking about. I was referring to a ranked team loses to an elite team by a wide margin but get moved up because of other teams losing. It is possible to rationalize that, but I have seen rankings where it seems teams move up out of habit or ease rather than what they are actually doing and that isn't right
 
Moving a team down is different that what I was talking about. I was referring to a ranked team loses to an elite team by a wide margin but get moved up because of other teams losing. It is possible to rationalize that, but I have seen rankings where it seems teams move up out of habit or ease rather than what they are actually doing and that isn't right
Like Vanden?
 
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The original comment was moving up a team after a blow out loss but it’s a point taken on Vanden.
 
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