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NCS Division Realignment

Interesting. 8 team brackets in each division. Antioch, SRV, Vintage & Foothill drop down to D2 with Campo & Rancho. D2 will be a battle. I didn’t realize Pitt had over 3500 students now. Deer Valley used to have more. Might as well just add one more division and create one just for De La.
 
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Apparently the vote is going down later this week. The 7 division teams would seem to be the fairest. The 8 division scenario means Antioch and San Ramon gain a huge advantage. The 7 team division keeps all traditional D1 teams in the same division, but creates a D1A and D1AA playoff bracket, putting the top teams in D1AA and De la Salle in D1A with the bottom ranked playoff teams. Giving about 6 D1 teams a legit chance to make State, as opposed to just making Antioch and San Ramon D2 as a resolution. Guess we know what DLS, Antioch and San Ramon AD’s will be voting for. :)
 
$1.3 million in pension liabilities is interesting. Wonder what type of pension (defined benefit or contribution) and how many participate and its guidelines. May put the section at risk at some point. It's the biggest liability of the section and seems there are other ways to put in place a retirement plan to reduces risk. If defined benefit plan, there are investment risk and uncertainty as far as under or over funding. It is on the balance sheet and so is a liability to the section. Just interesting to me....maybe no one else. LOL
 
$1.3 million in pension liabilities is interesting. Wonder what type of pension (defined benefit or contribution) and how many participate and its guidelines. May put the section at risk at some point. It's the biggest liability of the section and seems there are other ways to put in place a retirement plan to reduces risk. If defined benefit plan, there are investment risk and uncertainty as far as under or over funding. It is on the balance sheet and so is a liability to the section. Just interesting to me....maybe no one else. LOL
Caught my eye too. It will eventually bankrupt the section. No reason to own your own building either but they will eventually be forced to sell it in order to fund that liability
 
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Interesting placement for some schools. From NCS Board of Managers Agenda on page 21

https://d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net/g/n/ay8yi1bkjukxks/agenda1-25-19.pdf
There’s a lot to read there. A few things jumped out on some of the attachments. There’s a significant jump in the number of transfer hardships DENIED in ‘18. Simple deduction is more FB families are trying sneak past NCS rules and getting caught . Tsk, Tsk!
Also, it’s fairly clear there was a complaint at one level about not having consecutive games/weeks to prepare for state.

Seven people and $1M in payroll xp? Sign me up.
 
Simple deduction is more FB families are trying sneak past NCS rules and getting caught . Tsk, Tsk!

Really? What page shows the graph/data showing its “football” or “football families” please explain.
 
“Simple deduction.” You used the magic word! Please. It’s tongue in cheek. Chill.
 
The proposal looks good but I see some mistakes. Bishop O'Dowd and Rancho Cotate should be D3, and Cardinal Newman and Marin Catholic should be in D4, taking into account the competitive equity point rules.
 
Simple deduction.” You used the magic word! Please. It’s tongue in cheek. Chill.

Got it. Preying on the already insecure NorCal football community here about transfers by spreading a false narrative.
 
Ha...”spreading a false narrative. ” There’s, what, 13-15 people on here most days. Huge, HUGE, numbers of people here. Probably the most ever. LOL.
 
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The proposal looks good but I see some mistakes. Bishop O'Dowd and Rancho Cotate should be D3, and Cardinal Newman and Marin Catholic should be in D4, taking into account the competitive equity point rules.

I'm not sure how you justify moving Marin Catholic and Cardinal Newman down to D4 after they've been in D3 and have won championships. They're good right where they are. Marin Catholic, did in fact, did get get moved down to D3 from D2.
 
I'm not sure how you justify moving Marin Catholic and Cardinal Newman down to D4 after they've been in D3 and have won championships. They're good right where they are. Marin Catholic, did in fact, did get get moved down to D3 from D2.
Because its Lemon’s idiotic way of creating a scenario that allows more good teams to make it to Norcal. Same strategy by moving Antioch and San Ramon to D2.

What is odd is if Lemon is using competitive balance to adjust the divisions every year, why is he rewarding teams for a year by playing down, when they are going to be moved right back up. With this scenario, Antioch and SRV will be in D2 championship, CN and MC in D4 championship, and DLS against Liberty/Pitt. With very loser going home. Only difference is the D2’s and below have a chance to rebound every year. D1 teams will continue to go home no matter what. You know, because of that whole no one in Northern California has beaten DLS in 28 years thing.

The fairest and easiest way to do it is leave everyone where they are, and create D1A and D1AA bracket for football. Now you are sending two of the top teams in Norcal to the state playoffs, and De La Salle keeps their competitive advantage over the entire NCS going. SJS and CCS teams still won’t have to face DLS either because DLS will still get the auto Open bid. Everyone wins.
 
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Because its Lemon’s idiotic way of creating a scenario that allows more good teams to make it to Norcal. Same strategy by moving Antioch and San Ramon to D2.

What is odd is if Lemon is using competitive balance to adjust the divisions every year, why is he rewarding teams for a year by playing down, when they are going to be moved right back up. With this scenario, Antioch and SRV will be in D2 championship, CN and MC in D4 championship, and DLS against Liberty/Pitt. With very loser going home. Only difference is the D2’s and below have a chance to rebound every year. D1 teams will continue to go home no matter what. You know, because of that whole no one in Northern California has beaten DLS in 28 years thing.

The fairest and easiest way to do it is leave everyone where they are, and create D1A and D1AA bracket for football. Now you are sending two of the top teams in Norcal to the state playoffs, and De La Salle keeps their competitive advantage over the entire NCS going. SJS and CCS teams still won’t have to face DLS either because DLS will still get the auto Open bid. Everyone wins.
True Paloma, but there’s increasing noise from deLa not wanting playoff gaps of two weeks, “lose our edge.”
 
Change OPEN to D1AA and put 4 top team in state regardless of region. No regional game let them playout 4 team bracket much like college BCS
 
Seems like the Split division 1 in to two brackets would work. I like the breakdown they give. Give the NCS a chance to put two of the best teams in Northern California in the state playoffs and DLS gets more playoff games without all of the bye weeks. Win, win, win. Kudos to the BVAL for spearheading this proposal.

The WACC proposal is terrible for D1 teams. Especially considering the WACC D1 team that would benefit from it would be San Leandro. But. In the BVAL format, San Leandro would have a shot at making it to State in the D1AA bracket. They have beaten every team but DLS before.
 
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Division 2 Champs (Bishop O'Dowd) and Runner Up (Marin Catholic)go down two divisions to Division 4? Div 2 Seminfinalists Campolindo and Rancho Cotate are in D2 and D3? Defying logic once again.
The same can be said for Fortuna, who have two D4 titles and a State title in the past two years. According to this proposal, they would be in D5. Maybe someone can explain it a little better, because I'm not understanding this.
 
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