NCS Finals

[espot]

All games at 7PM
D1: De La Salle (11-1) vs. Pittsburg (11-1) at Dublin HS Friday
D2: Clayton Valley Charter (7-5) vs. Campolindo (10-2) at Pittsburg HS Saturday
D3: Las Lomas (11-1) vs. Rancho Cotate (9-3) at Acalanes HS Friday
D4: Marin Catholic (11-1) vs. Cardinal Newman (11-1) at Santa Rosa HS Saturday
D5: Encinal (11-1) vs. Del Norte (11-1) at Hayward HS Saturday
D6: Kennedy-Richmond (11-1) vs. St. Bernard's (9-3) at Benicia HS Saturday
D7: Salesian (10-2) vs. Ferndale (10-2) at Alhambra HS Saturday

 

[larry legend33]

Looks like Friday will be the better weather option. Cold but looking dry. Saturday could be a shit show weather wise. Remember in the old days when grass fields came to play into the equation? At least the mudbowls are behind us.

Good luck to all.

 

[MJ2014]

Looks like Friday will be the better weather option. Cold but looking dry. Saturday could be a shit show weather wise. Remember in the old days when grass fields came to play into the equation? At least the mudbowls are behind us.

Good luck to all.

Nice matchups!!!!

 

[MJ2014]

All games at 7PM
D1: De La Salle (11-1) vs. Pittsburg (11-1) at Dublin HS Friday
D2: Clayton Valley Charter (7-5) vs. Campolindo (10-2) at Pittsburg HS Saturday
D3: Las Lomas (11-1) vs. Rancho Cotate (9-3) at Acalanes HS Friday
D4: Marin Catholic (11-1) vs. Cardinal Newman (11-1) at Santa Rosa HS Saturday
D5: Encinal (11-1) vs. Del Norte (11-1) at Hayward HS Saturday
D6: Kennedy-Richmond (11-1) vs. St. Bernard's (9-3) at Benicia HS Saturday
D7: Salesian (10-2) vs. Ferndale (10-2) at Alhambra HS Saturday

D1- DLS
D2- Can it be Campo’s year to beat CVC.
D3- Close call, favor LL
D4- Close call, favor CN
D5- Encinal
D6- Kennedy, too many athletes
D7- Ferndale

close calls can go either way

 

[espot]

My predictions:
D1-De La Salle
D2-Campo
D3-Las Lomas
D4-Cardinal Newman
D5-Encinal
D6-Kennedy
D7-Salesian

 

[oakath]

Newman - MC Game

Is winner in the state final?

 

[larry legend33]

Newman - MC Game

Is winner in the state final?

The winner will be in drivers seat. Certainly to determine their destiny. First stop would be NorCal bowl. Think somebody mentioned Hanford but they lost last week. So who knows now.

I’m bias but I think this will be the game to attend in NorCal. (MC vs Newman)

 

[MJ2014]

Does Pitt stand a chance? They are the last team to beat DLS in NorCal.

 

[THEOC89]

Does Pitt stand a chance? They are the last team to beat DLS in NorCal.

I don’t really think so... Not this DLS Team Anyway.... And as a DLS fan PIT is a team I would like to see rise to the Occasion and Upset DLS if DLS is going to lose....

To Beat DLS you have to meet the Physicality and not allow them to hold the ball and pop big plays.... I am not sure this young PITT team has that yet...

PITT over the years has also not had a prolific enough offense to Beat DLS and they don’t have that this year... If they could only score 21 against Liberty, they may well be shut out by DLS....

I think the team that had the best chance of beating DLS this year was Serra before their QB went down... They had the Defense and the Ball Control mixed with Big play Offense that could keep the game close and give DLS trouble...

I see this a a 42-7 type of Game.... Would luv to see it competitive but DLS offense is just so good and has so much speed and there is no team PITT played that will replicate that...

This is an outstanding DLS team, they have not been talked about much because other the the STA game they have steamrolled everyone....

The thing that impressed me most at the STA game was how physical DLS was eventhough the game was such a Physical Mismatch, no team in Nor Cal and only a couple in So Cal can match that and beat DLS right now....

 

[observer22]

I think the team that had the best chance of beating DLS this year was Serra before their QB went down.

Unfortunately, Serra didn’t schedule them this year. A preseason game when their QB was still healthy would have been a far better matchup than Sparty playing St. Francis. And due to the Folsom Rule, DLS doesn’t play any other NorCal teams outside of NCS once league starts. Really too bad.

And I too give this Pitt team little chance to beat this DLS team. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

 

[THEOC89]

Unfortunately, Serra didn’t schedule them this year. A preseason game when their QB was still healthy would have been a far better matchup than Sparty playing St. Francis. And due to the Folsom Rule, DLS doesn’t play any other NorCal teams outside of NCS once league starts. Really too bad.

And I too give this Pitt team little chance to beat this DLS team. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

It definitely would have been better if DLS could have switched ST Francis with Serra...

I wouldn’t be surprise to see Serra on DLS schedule next year, however I don’t know if they will be as good as this years Serra Team and DLS will be even better next year....

I like what PITT has done though, they are young and will be really good next year.... 11-1 is no joke, got to hand it to PITTS coaching staff and those kids, they put together a hell of a season after losing a lot to Graduation....

 

[Paloma]

It definitely would have been better if DLS could have switched ST Francis with Serra...

I wouldn’t be surprise to see Serra on DLS schedule next year, however I don’t know if they will be as good as this years Serra Team and DLS will be even better next year....

I like what PITT has done though, they are young and will be really good next year.... 11-1 is no joke, got to hand it to PITTS coaching staff and those kids, they put together a hell of a season after losing a lot to Graduation....

Agree with the DLS/Pitt analyses. Only way Pittsburg has a chance is if some how they get some scores from a kickoff or a turnover. Just may be too tough to muster three touchdowns on offense against this DLS team.

 

[oakath]

The winner will be in drivers seat. Certainly to determine their destiny. First stop would be NorCal bowl. Think somebody mentioned Hanford but they lost last week. So who knows now.

I’m bias but I think this will be the game to attend in NorCal. (MC vs Newman)

Thanks LL
So winner has one more before a possible state final.

 

[Paloma]

So two public schools and 5 private/charter schools win NCS. Still sucks the CIF forced the playoff format and make Pitt have to stay home. Unfortunate that them (and Liberty) are top four type teams in Norcal and they get no chance at State.

Before the nay sayers start in, ponder this...

- there isn’t one school in SoCal that has beat everyone in SoCal for 30 straight years. SO the argument of “What about Centenial and Matre Dei stay in home” is moot.

- DLS should not be pushed directly into the State Open. Central or Serra should have to play them. No one should get a pass. If they do, give the NCS D1 teams a pass.

30 years! Ahahahaha

 

[townbiz24]

Hear we go again...still crying about this? My boy told me there were Pitt and Liberty coaches CRYING all over social media about this again so I guess it's true. What is there to ponder? So nobody has been good enough to beat DLS..even though there have been a number of teams that have been close. What's your point? Just to come on here and cry that it isn't fair? Go back to a play-in game and when DLS wins then what will you cry about?

 

[northbayfb]

Hear we go again...still crying about this? My boy told me there were Pitt and Liberty coaches CRYING all over social media about this again so I guess it's true. What is there to ponder? So nobody has been good enough to beat DLS..even though there have been a number of teams that have been close. What's your point? Just to come on here and cry that it isn't fair? Go back to a play-in game and when DLS wins then what will you cry about?

Agree. It was only a year ago that SFL coaches were rallying to get Folsom ousted. One coaching change later and all of a sudden there's blood in the water. People now want their chance to knock of Folsom. Coaching. It's coaching that matters. That's why some public schools win more than others and some private schools win more than others. Anyone buckling to the private school unfair advantage is continually sending that message to their players, reinforcing that no matter what they do they can't win. And when you believe it, you've lost well before kickoff.

 

[Paloma]

It’s not about beating DLS. I’m saying the runner up in D1 NCS game shouldn’t have to end their season when no other section has to be a part of the 30 year win streak.

That pick yourself up by the boot strap mentality is a farce. NO ONE IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA HAS BEAT THEM IN NEARLY 30 YEARS! Hahaha. Only D1 schools in NCS have to play them in any kind of playoff. It’s a flawed system!

And it’s not “crying” about it. It is statistical fact. Not to mention (again), the same thing is done in basketball. Section Runner ups get to go on to the state playoffs. Why can’t it be that way in football? Regarding Folsom example... not even close. It hasn’t been nearly three decades of Folsom section championships. And we all know why DLS automatically goes to the Open championship without having to play a team from another Northern California section.

Last, this is a message board. Topics like this is why most of us come on here.

 

[THEOC89]

It’s not about beating DLS. I’m saying the runner up in D1 NCS game shouldn’t have to end their season when no other section has to be a part of the 30 year win streak.

That pick yourself up by the boot strap mentality is a farce. NO ONE IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA HAS BEAT THEM IN NEARLY 30 YEARS! Hahaha. Only D1 schools in NCS have to play them in any kind of playoff. It’s a flawed system!

And it’s not “crying” about it. It is statistical fact. Not to mention (again), the same thing is done in basketball. Section Runner ups get to go on to the state playoffs. Why can’t it be that way in football? Regarding Folsom example... not even close. It hasn’t been nearly three decades of Folsom section championships. And we all know why DLS automatically goes to the Open championship without having to play a team from another Northern California section.

Last, this is a message board. Topics like this is why most of us come on here.

We need to do Something about this in Nor Cal, I was at the DLS vs PITT game Friday and I actually came away pretty Impressed with PITT.... They could beat Anyone in Nor Cal This Year Not Named DLS or Serra (With Their #1 QB)...

They Have Big, Physical Lines (#75 is a Monster), Lots of Speed and a Mobile QB who could make plays... PITT Moved the Ball on DLS No Problem through the Air, they just had 3 bad Turnovers that DLS turned into TD's to Blow the game open...

PITT's Receivers were fast and could catch but lacked Size... If they had a Big 6'2 Type of Possession Receiver, they could have done some damage because DLS was struggling to stop the pass, especially between the 20's...

Years Ago, So Cal Had a Similar Problem with Corona Centennial who was winning The IE Section every Year.... So they did the Smart Thing and Merged the IE Section into the Southern Section so Cen10 would now have to play So Cal's best teams to win a Section Title and go to a SBG....

In Nor Cal why can we not Merge the NCS and the SJS?... It seems like a Logical Fix... Plus everyone says that the SJS has the Teams Historically that would have beaten DLS, so why not put those sections together and Play it out?...

The answer is, No Team in Nor Cal Wants the Same Fate as the Top NCS D1 Teams which is having your Section Title and SBG Hopes lie with beating DLS in a Playoff game hence "The Folsom Rule"....

So Until the Other Section Commissioners, Coaches, etc, Man up and push for a Change, Beating DLS to win a Title will solely be the Responsibility of PITT and the NCS D1 Teams....

 

[bella123]

We need to do Something about this in Nor Cal, I was at the DLS vs PITT game Friday and I actually came away pretty Impressed with PITT.... They could beat Anyone in Nor Cal This Year Not Named DLS or Serra (With Their #1 QB)...

They Have Big, Physical Lines (#75 is a Monster), Lots of Speed and a Mobile QB who could make plays... PITT Moved the Ball on DLS No Problem through the Air, they just had 3 bad Turnovers that DLS turned into TD's to Blow the game open...

PITT's Receivers were fast and could catch but lacked Size... If they had a Big 6'2 Type of Possession Receiver, they could have done some damage because DLS was struggling to stop the pass, especially between the 20's...

Years Ago, So Cal Had a Similar Problem with Corona Centennial who was winning The IE Section every Year.... So they did the Smart Thing and Merged the IE Section into the Southern Section so Cen10 would now have to play So Cal's best teams to win a Section Title and go to a SBG....

In Nor Cal why can we not Merge the NCS and the SJS?... It seems like a Logical Fix... Plus everyone says that the SJS has the Teams Historically that would have beaten DLS, so why not put those sections together and Play it out?...

The answer is, No Team in Nor Cal Wants the Same Fate as the Top NCS D1 Teams which is having your Section Title and SBG Hopes lie with beating DLS in a Playoff game hence "The Folsom Rule"....

So Until the Other Section Commissioners, Coaches, etc, Man up and push for a Change, Beating DLS to win a Title will solely be the Responsibility of PITT and the NCS D1 Teams....

But CC was still a member of the SS. Just not the Pac5. So they did stay. within the section.

10 CIF section commissioner jobs? I don’t see many of them willing to relinquish a job or control. As it is now OAL, NS and AAA as their own sections is way to much fat. But it would be an act of god to reorganize the CIF, not that it should be, but it would. Politics and $$$.

 

[townbiz24]

It’s not about beating DLS. I’m saying the runner up in D1 NCS game shouldn’t have to end their season when no other section has to be a part of the 30 year win streak.

That pick yourself up by the boot strap mentality is a farce. NO ONE IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA HAS BEAT THEM IN NEARLY 30 YEARS! Hahaha. Only D1 schools in NCS have to play them in any kind of playoff. It’s a flawed system!

And it’s not “crying” about it. It is statistical fact. Not to mention (again), the same thing is done in basketball. Section Runner ups get to go on to the state playoffs. Why can’t it be that way in football? Regarding Folsom example... not even close. It hasn’t been nearly three decades of Folsom section championships. And we all know why DLS automatically goes to the Open championship without having to play a team from another Northern California section.

Last, this is a message board. Topics like this is why most of us come on here.

So what you are saying is that you want a participation trophy after you lose? It's that kind of thinking that has ruined this country. You lose, you're out. You win, you move on. Pretty simple. Plus, you need to he careful what you wish for, as Liberty fans found out last year after chanting, "we want Dela" in their stands after their win in semi's. You don't want Socal to do the same thing and send their runner-ups. You think it's bad getting thumped by DLS, wait till you get the runner-up from the Trinity league. Every team out here would get boatraced. You should know from experience last year vs Centennial.

 

[townbiz24]

And it is "crying" when your coaches are teaming up with other coaches all over social media trying to convince others how "unfair" it is...

 

[ankleassassin]

So what you are saying is that you want a participation trophy after you lose? It's that kind of thinking that has ruined this country. You lose, you're out. You win, you move on. Pretty simple. Plus, you need to he careful what you wish for, as Liberty fans found out last year after chanting, "we want Dela" in their stands after their win in semi's. You don't want Socal to do the same thing and send their runner-ups. You think it's bad getting thumped by DLS, wait till you get the runner-up from the Trinity league. Every team out here would get boatraced. You should know from experience last year vs Centennial.

the ruins of this country is bigger than nor cal high school football. nor cal high school football is only relevant in nor cal. DC doesnt even know yall.

 

[northbayfb]

the ruins of this country is bigger than nor cal high school football. nor cal high school football is only relevant in nor cal. DC doesnt even know yall.

DC plays football?

 

[ankleassassin]

DC plays football?

you made my point even better

 

[townbiz24]

the ruins of this country is bigger than nor cal high school football. nor cal high school football is only relevant in nor cal. DC doesnt even know yall.

It's obvious comprehension is not your strength.

 

[ankleassassin]

It's obvious comprehension is not your strength.

or that is a terrible comparison. depends who is asking.

 

[THEOC89]

But CC was still a member of the SS. Just not the Pac5. So they did stay. within the section.

10 CIF section commissioner jobs? I don’t see many of them willing to relinquish a job or control. As it is now OAL, NS and AAA as their own sections is way to much fat. But it would be an act of god to reorganize the CIF, not that it should be, but it would. Politics and $$$.

Yes, you are correct, but the Southern Section was split where the OC Teams Played the LA County Teams and the IE Teams consisted of the teams in Riverside County, San Bernadino County, etc, all based on league alignment within the counties and each had their own Playoff Bracket....

It would be like the NCS and SJS being 1 section but the SJS Leagues play a different Playoffs and the NCS Leagues Play separate Playoffs...

Why cant these 2 sections play a combined Playoff? Our current set up is like what was going on in So Cal back then, Except for we in Nor Cal have multiple sections and commissioners and not one giant section with other regions...

Just merge the 2 sections for the Playoffs, come up with an 8 Team D1 for The Open and so on just like the Southern Section does... The CCS and Fresno can Play for D1-AA like San Diego and the LA City Section do... It just makes too much sense...

Except if you don't want to play DLS to win a title... In That Case, people can come up with a Ton of Excuses to not make this happen...

I agree with you though, too many commissioners and too much Red Tape, so something logical like this will never happen...

 

[Paloma]

We need to do Something about this in Nor Cal, I was at the DLS vs PITT game Friday and I actually came away pretty Impressed with PITT.... They could beat Anyone in Nor Cal This Year Not Named DLS or Serra (With Their #1 QB)...

They Have Big, Physical Lines (#75 is a Monster), Lots of Speed and a Mobile QB who could make plays... PITT Moved the Ball on DLS No Problem through the Air, they just had 3 bad Turnovers that DLS turned into TD's to Blow the game open...

PITT's Receivers were fast and could catch but lacked Size... If they had a Big 6'2 Type of Possession Receiver, they could have done some damage because DLS was struggling to stop the pass, especially between the 20's...

Years Ago, So Cal Had a Similar Problem with Corona Centennial who was winning The IE Section every Year.... So they did the Smart Thing and Merged the IE Section into the Southern Section so Cen10 would now have to play So Cal's best teams to win a Section Title and go to a SBG....

In Nor Cal why can we not Merge the NCS and the SJS?... It seems like a Logical Fix... Plus everyone says that the SJS has the Teams Historically that would have beaten DLS, so why not put those sections together and Play it out?...

The answer is, No Team in Nor Cal Wants the Same Fate as the Top NCS D1 Teams which is having your Section Title and SBG Hopes lie with beating DLS in a Playoff game hence "The Folsom Rule"....

So Until the Other Section Commissioners, Coaches, etc, Man up and push for a Change, Beating DLS to win a Title will solely be the Responsibility of PITT and the NCS D1 Teams....

Mic drop! Well said!

 

[Paloma]

And it is "crying" when your coaches are teaming up with other coaches all over social media trying to convince others how "unfair" it is...

Wrong again. I think you misunderstand where Partridge from Liberty, The Dublin coach and the Pittsburg AD are coming from when they proposed alternate playoff formats. It is about providing one of the year in and year out top 5 teams in Norcal an opportunity to advance in the playoffs and not have to do something that no one in Northern California has done in three decades.

Just read/re-read THEOC89’s post.

 

[townbiz24]

Wrong again. I think you misunderstand where Partridge from Liberty, The Dublin coach and the Pittsburg AD are coming from when they proposed alternate playoff formats. It is about providing one of the year in and year out top 5 teams in Norcal an opportunity to advance in the playoffs and not have to do something that no one in Northern California has done in three decades.

Just read/re-read THEOC89’s post.

Re-read MY post...again what you are asking for is a pass to a participation trophy. You can't beat the best so you wanna get a spot playing lower competition so you can win and go peacocking around town that you are "State Champs"..kinda like how you guys claim to be "Norcal Champs" a couple years ago, even though you were probably the 5th best team in Norcal. Weak mentality. Pitt should be better than that. Especially with the amount of talent they have year in and year out. Be better!

 

[Paloma]

Re-read MY post...again what you are asking for is a pass to a participation trophy. You can't beat the best so you wanna get a spot playing lower competition so you can win and go peacocking around town that you are "State Champs"..kinda like how you guys claim to be "Norcal Champs" a couple years ago, even though you were probably the 5th best team in Norcal. Weak mentality. Pitt should be better than that. Especially with the amount of talent they have year in and year out. Be better!

Be better? Agree! CCS, SJS, and CS should have to play DLS for the Norcal Open game. DLS shouldn’t get any free passes either. They need to be better. Maybe if they played that game they’d start beating SoCal teams. And why are you a saying you guys? Hahaha! I don’t claim any “Norcal Champs”. Are you talking about Clayton? Pittsburg? Liberty? Freedom? Antioch? All of which have claimed some form of Faux championship the past few years.

You obviously have an axe to grind and are an avid Spartan apologist. If you have no horse in the race than why wouldn’t you accept the fact that NO team in Northern California has beaten DLS in three decades. No team should get a free pass to state. DLS should have to play in a Norcal Open game, and the Folsom Rule should be abolished. Ultimately I can care less about Pittsburg or any other BVAL team. I love following teams where I live. I make the same argument for three decades of very good teams in the NCS D1 not getting a chance to play in State while other sections get to dodge DLS. James Logan, Cal, San Ramon, Etc. Etc. Etc. All have had top teams that would have went on and beat SJS and CCS schools.

But, I’m going to assume you’re a fan like me. Or else take a step back, take off your DLS hoody and KT hat, and look at things from the other side of Treat Blvd. The same “participation trophy” you reference is what the SJS, CCS, and CS get by not having to play De La Salle. Matter of fact, DLS going straight to the State Open without playing is charity/participation trophy material. Who’s to say Central or Oak Ridge or Serra won’t beat them?! Would it be three decades of DLS not losing as proof? Do you ridicule the runner ups that advance to the state playoffs in boys and girls basketball too?

P.S.
You response= I don’t have to do anything! I keep it real and respect teams that don’t hide. Yawn yawn yawn...

 

[northbayfb]

Be better? Agree! CCS, SJS, and CS should have to play DLS for the Norcal Open game. DLS shouldn’t get any free passes either. They need to be better. Maybe if they played that game they’d start beating SoCal teams. And why are you a saying you guys? Hahaha! I don’t claim any “Norcal Champs”. Are you talking about Clayton? Pittsburg? Liberty? Freedom? Antioch? All of which have claimed some form of Faux championship the past few years.

You obviously have an axe to grind and are an avid Spartan apologist. If you have no horse in the race than why wouldn’t you accept the fact that NO team in Northern California has beaten DLS in three decades. No team should get a free pass to state. DLS should have to play in a Norcal Open game, and the Folsom Rule should be abolished. Ultimately I can care less about Pittsburg or any other BVAL team. I love following teams where I live. I make the same argument for three decades of very good teams in the NCS D1 not getting a chance to play in State while other sections get to dodge DLS. James Logan, Cal, San Ramon, Etc. Etc. Etc. All have had top teams that would have went on and beat SJS and CCS schools.

But, I’m going to assume you’re a fan like me. Or else take a step back, take off your DLS hoody and KT hat, and look at things from the other side of Treat Blvd. The same “participation trophy” you reference is what the SJS, CCS, and CS get by not having to play De La Salle. Matter of fact, DLS going straight to the State Open without playing is charity/participation trophy material. Who’s to say Central or Oak Ridge or Serra won’t beat them?! Would it be three decades of DLS not losing as proof? Do you ridicule the runner ups that advance to the state playoffs in boys and girls basketball too?

P.S.
You response= I don’t have to do anything! I keep it real and respect teams that don’t hide. Yawn yawn yawn...

I would agree with you that DLS should not get a free pass in to the open. But i also don’t think it’s relevant that no team has beaten DLS in the last 30 years because there’s a rule in place that allows the other best teams in this area to bypass playing DLS. Somebody should be willing to play the Mater Dei to their SJB. Pitt definitely has the athletes to beat DLS. Somebody closer to the two programs can say for sure but didn’t Pitt have more athletes go on to D1 programs last year than DLS? Defensive accountability vs the veer needs to be stressed. The problem with some great athletes is that disciplined defensive play is boring they just want to “make plays”.

 

[dillbag7]

The greatest is seeing DLS parents pound their chest and act so righteous about others trying to avoid playing them when they sent their son there to play! That is the ultimate avoidance!

 

[Paloma]

I would agree with you that DLS should not get a free pass in to the open. But i also don’t think it’s relevant that no team has beaten DLS in the last 30 years because there’s a rule in place that allows the other best teams in this area to bypass playing DLS. Somebody should be willing to play the Mater Dei to their SJB. Pitt definitely has the athletes to beat DLS. Somebody closer to the two programs can say for sure but didn’t Pitt have more athletes go on to D1 programs last year than DLS? Defensive accountability vs the veer needs to be stressed. The problem with some great athletes is that disciplined defensive play is boring they just want to “make plays”.

Folsom did too and DLS shut them out last year. And I’m not arguing that no NCS team can beat DLS. I saw Serra steam roll Pittsburg. Out ran them in every phase, yet lost to a much weaker team when their quarterback went down (sound familiar Pittsburg fans). Not to mention Liberty had more talent than Pittsburg this year. Especially on the line. Liberty had the league MVP for Pete sake and Pittsburg beat them twice.

Folsom was the Matre Dei to their Bosco. But DLS humiliated them like they do everyone in NorCal and the CIF changed the rules and made it so DLS goes straight to State Open game if they won their section.

Actually by that rationale, that automatically makes the NCS D1 runnerup the second best team in Norcal. CIF is saying that the NCS D1 is so difficult that they need to send DLS straight to the State Open game? Pittsburg, Liberty, Freedom and Antioch should start hyping the BVAL has the POWER 5 of Norcal! I was looking at it wrong this whole time. DOH! Hehehehe

 

[townbiz24]

No axes here. Just stating my opinion just like everybody else. I have much respect for the Pittsburg program, which I have had friends and family play for over the years and I am ALL for Open playoffs, combined playoffs, etc. I have no problem with DLS or any other team having to win to get there. I think they should. You are right, it would probably help prepare them for the juggernauts of the South, which it may not prepare them enough anyways, but I am all for it. Like I said, the issue is everybody crying about the whole private vs public school thing, the "unfair advantage" stuff and it starts with the coaches pushing it and getting everybody like you going on and on about it. Gets old, especially when the big "publics" are taking in transfers, which I am very ok with. I've said on here many times that I am for letting parents send their kids wherever they want. But don't act like, poor public schools are at such a disadvatage when you are doing what you do and then wanting to get an easy pass to a lower level "State Championship" when you have the talent to compete. I have many friends that have sent their kids to DLS and other public schools in towns in which they dont live in and they have benefited from it so I applaud them all. Let's just stop with the "poor us" attitude.

PS- where does one get a KT hat? Great time to get one for stocking stuffer, haha.

 

[townbiz24]

The greatest is seeing DLS parents pound their chest and act so righteous about others trying to avoid playing them when they sent their son there to play! That is the ultimate avoidance!

Kinda like all the transfers going on in Socal and in the East Bay? Or maybe they send them there for more reasons than JUST sports. Just a thought

 

[townbiz24]

No axes here. Just stating my opinion just like everybody else. I have much respect for the Pittsburg program, which I have had friends and family play for over the years and I am ALL for Open playoffs, combined playoffs, etc. I have no problem with DLS or any other team having to win to get there. I think they should. You are right, it would probably help prepare them for the juggernauts of the South, which it may not prepare them enough anyways, but I am all for it. Like I said, the issue is everybody crying about the whole private vs public school thing, the "unfair advantage" stuff and it starts with the coaches pushing it and getting everybody like you going on and on about it. Gets old, especially when the big "publics" are taking in transfers, which I am very ok with. I've said on here many times that I am for letting parents send their kids wherever they want. But don't act like, poor public schools are at such a disadvatage when you are doing what you do and then wanting to get an easy pass to a lower level "State Championship" when you have the talent to compete. I have many friends that have sent their kids to DLS and other public schools in towns in which they dont live in and they have benefited from it so I applaud them all. Let's just stop with the "poor us" attitude.

PS- where does one get a KT hat? Great time to get one for stocking stuffer, haha.

I actually agree with your last paragraph. I think the BVAL ( and some years the EBAL) have been two of the tougher leagues in Norcal for the last couple years.

 

[dillbag7]

Just curious. If one were to be able to offer stud football players and their families 1500 a month to attend their school to play football what it be looked at as fair? Would it help secure much more talented individuals to play for that team? The answer is pretty obvious. So conversely let’s say an 1,800 a month tuition fee at a private school gets knocked down to 300 a month, is that any different? Either way the family essentially wins out +1500 a month in the form of cash or goods and services. The point here is the first scenario doesn’t happen. The 2nd scenario does, on a yearly basis, at a certain school with no nearby competition. So if anyone has the means to do a great social experiment; become a yv booster and start offering the families of local football phenoms from Oakley to Oakland, 1500 a month to play there. See if all of sudden the coaching looks amazing and the team seems unbeatable. It is beyond me how any DLS backer, surrounded by public schools mind you, fails to see this glaring advantage and relies on the ultimate deflection... “team A has the talent to beat DLS”. But does team a have a 20 million dollar sports complex? Does team A have full time paid staff members? Does team A have paid strength and conditioning coaches and programs? Does team A have nutrition and nutritional supplements monitored and provided? Does team A have the benefit of living off of this advantage and therefore attracting more talent every year? If team a does not have these things than you are referring to every public school in a 40 mile radius around DLS. This is definitely not DLS problem nor cross to bear, however, it’s not every other schools fault either. My advise to the DLS backers: enjoy your advantage and wildly unequal playing field, but please don’t try to act like it’s not there.

 

[townbiz24]

Just curious. If one were to be able to offer stud football players and their families 1500 a month to attend their school to play football what it be looked at as fair? Would it help secure much more talented individuals to play for that team? The answer is pretty obvious. So conversely let’s say an 1,800 a month tuition fee at a private school gets knocked down to 300 a month, is that any different? Either way the family essentially wins out +1500 a month in the form of cash or goods and services. The point here is the first scenario doesn’t happen. The 2nd scenario does, on a yearly basis, at a certain school with no nearby competition. So if anyone has the means to do a great social experiment; become a yv booster and start offering the families of local football phenoms from Oakley to Oakland, 1500 a month to play there. See if all of sudden the coaching looks amazing and the team seems unbeatable. It is beyond me how any DLS backer, surrounded by public schools mind you, fails to see this glaring advantage and relies on the ultimate deflection... “team A has the talent to beat DLS”. But does team a have a 20 million dollar sports complex? Does team A have full time paid staff members? Does team A have paid strength and conditioning coaches and programs? Does team A have nutrition and nutritional supplements monitored and provided? Does team A have the benefit of living off of this advantage and therefore attracting more talent every year? If team a does not have these things than you are referring to every public school in a 40 mile radius around DLS. This is definitely not DLS problem nor cross to bear, however, it’s not every other schools fault either. My advise to the DLS backers: enjoy your advantage and wildly unequal playing field, but please don’t try to act like it’s not there.

I see where you're going with this and I can see how it may look one way, but not everything is as you say. I won't talk about the financial stuff too much because I don't know. I am not in those conversations. One thing I will say is that nothing is "offered". I am sure if a kid or parent asks about fees , they tell them to apply for financial aid, which any student can apply for. After that, I don't know. What I do know for a fact is that I know a few kids that were bonafide "studs" that got zero/minimal financial aid, which is determined by a 3rd party, not the DLS coaches/administrators. And I can't speak on what happens at a nearby charter school that has quite a bit of talent every year and charges tuition that pretty well every year. Paid coaches staffs. Can't speak on that either because I don't know, but look at the coaching staff at DLS. The staff is full of former DLS players, not all of them played college or pro ball like some other schools have on their staffs. Just because they may get paid a salary or stipend, doesn't mean they have an adantage there. 20 million dollar sports complex? Have you been to a game at DLS. It's arguably the smallest stadium around. Have you seen their weight room? Up until a couple months ago, they worked out of a 600 square foot cynder block room with old ass rusted weights. They would have to liftweights in the hallways, parking lots, and on the fields. Their weight room now is pretty nice though. Paid strength coach. I know a couple local schools that have legit strength coaches, dont know if they get paid or not. Nutritional supplements provided and monitered? Lol. They had Muscle Milk...an over the counter protein shake that anybody can get, and I don't know if they even have that anymore. There are no other supplements monitored or handed out. That's actually very funny. My advise to you is to actually know the facts. C'mon man!

 

[Paloma]

No axes here. Just stating my opinion just like everybody else. I have much respect for the Pittsburg program, which I have had friends and family play for over the years and I am ALL for Open playoffs, combined playoffs, etc. I have no problem with DLS or any other team having to win to get there. I think they should. You are right, it would probably help prepare them for the juggernauts of the South, which it may not prepare them enough anyways, but I am all for it. Like I said, the issue is everybody crying about the whole private vs public school thing, the "unfair advantage" stuff and it starts with the coaches pushing it and getting everybody like you going on and on about it. Gets old, especially when the big "publics" are taking in transfers, which I am very ok with. I've said on here many times that I am for letting parents send their kids wherever they want. But don't act like, poor public schools are at such a disadvatage when you are doing what you do and then wanting to get an easy pass to a lower level "State Championship" when you have the talent to compete. I have many friends that have sent their kids to DLS and other public schools in towns in which they dont live in and they have benefited from it so I applaud them all. Let's just stop with the "poor us" attitude.

PS- where does one get a KT hat? Great time to get one for stocking stuffer, haha.

I here you but I’m not making the Public against private argument. There’s just no way DLS starts paying more money to travel to San Mateo and San Jose the entire school year for athletics. I didn’t like that proposal when Liberty went to the NCS with that after last season. Not because it sounded like sour grapes, but because the East Bay privates don’t want to play DLS and neither does the CCS privates. And it’s better to attract players to dls when they get to pound on NCS D1’s because that is their competition for players.