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Norcal Div. 1: Miramonte vs. Sacred Heart Cathedral

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At halftime, SHC leads 33-26. The Irish with the rebounding edge, 30-19. Yes, lots of missed shots. A combined 4-24 from the three point line.
 
MM zone inherently vulnerable to offensive rebounds. liked them showing player-to-player, but it's a complicated, and they don't use it much. help on penetration doesn't generate rotation, more offensive boards surrendered. will have to find a defense that works. commentators want to see more of MM senior posts.
 
SHC in a rout, 69-48. SHC bigger, quicker, more athletic, better. exploited all of MM vulnerabilities. an incredible number of blocks by SHC in the paint. they deserve to move on. St. Patrick's Day? wait, wait...did SHC coach get CIF to schedule the contest today???
 
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Final score: SHC 69, Miramonte 48. Early in the fourth, the Matadors had a chance to keep it close but missed a couple of free throws. Then back-to-back threes by the Irish put the lead at 49-37 and essentially put the game away. 12 points for Gianna Silvestri and Yahiah Fleming. Talo Li-Uperesa with 8 and 11 rebounds. For Miramonte, 11 points each for Clair Steele and Rebecca Welsh.
 
MM 20% overall, 16% on 3's. a ton of those "misses" were SHC blocks. credit to SHC defense.
 
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Nobody gave SHC a chance!

I did, but I expected a close game. boy, was I wrong. CIF should examine closed circuit security footage, look for shillelagh on the scale. CSI-CIF, I guess.

MM SOS (lowest in latest state top 25) might have lulled the kids to expect butter in the paint. that wasn't what SHC was serving.

I can get behind a 16-14 state champ.
 
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I also said Mitty could be beat when SHC played them close but everybody on the band wagon shunned me for it lol.
 
Sounds like SHC should have been in the Open rather than CN.

One thing about both programs is they don't duck anybody. The last 4 teams in the OPEN would have had to play close to near perfect to win..SHC matches up with every team pretty well and can play any style at this point in the season. It will be interesting to see what happens Friday and how good they are next year.
 
One thing about both programs is they don't duck anybody. The last 4 teams in the OPEN would have had to play close to near perfect to win..SHC matches up with every team pretty well and can play any style at this point in the season. It will be interesting to see what happens Friday and how good they are next year.

I agree they would have given the bottom five a great game. And on any given day had a decent shot if they would have caught the top 3 slipping. But I think Mitty, Pinewood, and SMS was on a slightly higher level than the five teams below them IMO. SO I think the last 5 teams not last 4 teams would have had to play well to beat SHC in the Open. Of course that being 5 if one team Carondelet didn't decide ( or should I say their admin) to forfeit the open. Congratulations to SHC ! And best wishes moving forward for a state championship.
 
I agree they would have given the bottom five a great game. And on any given day had a decent shot if they would have caught the top 3 slipping. But I think Mitty, Pinewood, and SMS was on a slightly higher level than the five teams below them IMO. SO I think the last 5 teams not last 4 teams would have had to play well to beat SHC in the Open. Of course that being 5 if one team Carondelet didn't decide ( or should I say their admin) to forfeit the open. Congratulations to SHC ! And best wishes moving forward for a state championship.
any penalty for them roll into next year for forfeiting that game?
 
any penalty for them roll into next year for forfeiting that game?

Not sure? I have heard everything from they will be penalized for two seasons to they will not be penalized at all. If I had to guess I would think there would be some type of penalty imposed for the forfeit by the CIF or whatever outfit is in charge of the Open division playoffs. Hopefully not. Perhaps they will honor the word I understand was verbally given to not further penalize Carondelet. But who knows if others that were harmed by the forfeit will protest or not against Carondelet playing next season in the playoffs after the NCS. I think the forfeit was by far too steep a penalty already considering only 1 or 2 girls acted out irresponsibly. Punishing the entire team after they worked hard the past few seasons to earn the right to play for a state championship even as underdogs was robbery without a gun IMO. I personally think the Carondelet administration acted too quickly. And they in my opinion made the wrong decision.

Straightline50,

I'm pretty sure the forfeit has already went down as a loss for Carondelet and a victory for Pinewood.
 
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Not sure? I have heard everything from they will be penalized for two seasons to they will not be penalized at all. If I had to guess I would think there would be some type of penalty imposed for the forfeit by the CIF or whatever outfit is in charge of the Open division playoffs. Hopefully not. Perhaps they will honor the word I understand was verbally given to not further penalize Carondelet. But who knows if others that were harmed by the forfeit will protest or not against Carondelet playing next season in the playoffs after the NCS. I think the forfeit was by far too steep a penalty already considering only 1 or 2 girls acted out irresponsibly. Punishing the entire team after they worked hard the past few seasons to earn the right to play for a state championship even as underdogs was robbery without a gun IMO. I personally think the Carondelet administration acted too quickly. And they in my opinion made the wrong decision.

Straightline50,

I'm pretty sure the forfeit has already went down as a loss for Carondelet and a victory for Pinewood.

I'm sure there has to be a bylaw listed in the rulebook in order for the suspension to take place if issued by the CIF. It will be interesting to see how they handle it. Taking into consideration the CIF had nothing to do with the self imposed penalty it seems that Carondelet may have opened up a different can of worms. Since the punishment was self imposed it seems that they could have come up with a different option that didn't involve the student athletes that did not take part and just discipline those who did. I feel bad for the seniors who had to end their high school careers with a forfeit.
 
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I don't believe Bishop O'Dowd was penalized beyond one season for playing too many games two years ago (or was it three?). And when Campolindo, ironically coached by Elgin Leslie, misreported its record against D-III teams (there was confusion about the division assignment of an out-of-NCS opponent) and was bumped out of the NCS playoffs after the brackets had been set, no further penalty was imposed aside from not playing that year.

So from a CIF/NCS perspective, it's unlikely there will be a penalty for Carondelet, and I would think it would be much too harsh for the school to penalize next year's team for this year's actions.
 
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I don't believe Bishop O'Dowd was penalized beyond one season for playing too many games two years ago (or was it three?). And when Campolindo, ironically coached by Elgin Leslie, misreported its record against D-III teams (there was confusion about the division assignment of an out-of-NCS opponent) and was bumped out of the NCS playoffs after the brackets had been set, no further penalty was imposed aside from not playing that year.

So from a CIF/NCS perspective, it's unlikely there will be a penalty for Carondelet, and I would think it would be much too harsh for the school to penalize next year's team for this year's actions.

Hopefully you are right. But many thought it was much too harsh to penalize a whole team for 1 or 2 players acting irresponsibly but the entire team was punished IMO too harshly regardless. There were an infinite number of punishment options that could and should have been used. So you never know how adults with a little power (power trips) will use that power. Because the negligence and questionable decision to punish an entire team for 1 or 2 players infamous act harmed more than just the Carondelet players. It effected the open division seeding and impacted the tournament. Will others who were punished in the past or harmed by the Carondelet's decision to forfeit this year protest or complain next year? If so will their grounds for complaining have merit and take priority?

Clay based on what you are saying sometimes rules are broken without max punishment. Too bad the Carondelet girls who were not caught up irresponsibly didn't also receive a lesser penalty or lesser punishment as well.


This year's team was punished too harshly already. So next year and the year after should be exempt. Perhaps that will be the case you never no? Time will tell best.
 
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Not sure? I have heard everything from they will be penalized for two seasons to they will not be penalized at all. If I had to guess I would think there would be some type of penalty imposed for the forfeit by the CIF or whatever outfit is in charge of the Open division playoffs. Hopefully not. Perhaps they will honor the word I understand was verbally given to not further penalize Carondelet. But who knows if others that were harmed by the forfeit will protest or not against Carondelet playing next season in the playoffs after the NCS. I think the forfeit was by far too steep a penalty already considering only 1 or 2 girls acted out irresponsibly. Punishing the entire team after they worked hard the past few seasons to earn the right to play for a state championship even as underdogs was robbery without a gun IMO. I personally think the Carondelet administration acted too quickly. And they in my opinion made the wrong decision.

Straightline50,

I'm pretty sure the forfeit has already went down as a loss for Carondelet and a victory for Pinewood.
That is good. Add another win for the Doctor!
 
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