Nice pick up for the Beavers in picking up one of this area's best receives and a player coming off a successful track season
Palma 2024 WR Logan Saldate flips to Notre Dame from Oregon State
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News- Palma will be no longer all boys school in 2024-2025. They already added 6th graders. This move will probably move their enrollment size to smaller classification for sports. Notre Dame which is around the block will continue as all girls.
Another example that it can be hard to run an all boys or all girls school. CN and Riordan went this way and now Palma.
Do you think families are looking less for this option and thus building up enrollment is harder?
Do you think families are looking less for this option and thus building up enrollment is harder?
In Riordan's case, San Francisco families are moving out, the City's lower level parochial school enrollments were spiraling downward, so they jumped on the opportunity to go Co Ed when Mercy-SF closed a few years ago. Their boarding program helps out, too.
@Streak One , same at CN with regards to losing younger families in Sonoma County. It’s just too expensive to live their and families are moving East. It’s not as bad as SF but same idea. Plus, you have charter schools and other privates competing for same kids. Makes a lot of sense. Jesuit in Sac probably doesn’t need to do that (yet) but you never know long term.
Palma may well benefit from the coed move. But Notre Dame-Salinas is in trouble. The Palma decision cannot be helpful.
Petaluma still has St. Vincent’s which is hanging for dear life around 170 coed down from 400 a decade ago. Sonoma County is hemorrhaging school age children and schools are closing yearly. Also, most Catholics are low income to middle income in the area, CN is seen as “elitist” and is is down to 550+ coed, a decade ago they have 420+ just males. The days of 3 siblings, middle class, attending Catholic school are over, in the North Bay.
In Marin it seems there are much more high income families that can afford private school and it I know some (Branson) are extremely generous with scholarships.
In Napa I think Justin Siena is doing well in enrollment tapping into Solano County, although St. Pats is just down the road.
Palma had enrollment issue and added 6th grade and looks like that didn't resolve the issue. In Fall?Winter 2021/2022, a study was conducted by Catholic School Management, Bishop Daniel Garcia and then-Provincial Leader of the Edmund Rice Christian Brothers, that concluded: "The families and children in the northern part of the Diocese of Monterey could be better served by a co-educational high school structure in Salinas." The Diocese of Monterey though investigated and didn't agree. Notre Dame, all girls school, around the block also didn't agree. When Palma was originally founded it was a co-ed school. When I was there 1973-79 (Jr high through high school), I had some classes with girls from ND at Palma and one class at Notre Dame (one of three guys in the class taught by Nun). I think the 6th grade class might end and they will go back to only 7th-12th and will be interesting as far as impact on ND.
The $16k tuition is high in the Salinas area when there are elite charter and prep schools in Monterey at higher tier price, reputation and boarding schools, and I think even Notre Dame has enrollment issues. Salinas High, nearby public school, also has strong academic programs and sports and has gotten more local student families opting there and also have built strong sports programs where these families might opt for Palma since the great recession. I think eventually ND could merge with Palma, and Palma should benefit and ND may have negative impact. I think sports could also benefit and maybe draw more back from Salinas High, Monterey, Gilroy, and Hollister but Palma definitely needs more land if they are to ever grow and merging the two schools would be best option. The structure of the schools seems to be a barrier (e.g., different Catholic order affiliations) , and Palma enrollment classification for sports may drop some as far as they are measured by 2X boys currently and that will be different. Palma used to be a Christian Brother School but spun off prior to all the scandals to a Charter School in the Church some of which even hit the school when it was part of the Christian Brother structure, which could have resulted in termination its existence. They retains an affiliation with Christian Brothers of Ireland and maintains brothers at the school and its Catholic orientation, but has mostly lay teachers and leadership.
The $16k tuition is high in the Salinas area when there are elite charter and prep schools in Monterey at higher tier price, reputation and boarding schools, and I think even Notre Dame has enrollment issues. Salinas High, nearby public school, also has strong academic programs and sports and has gotten more local student families opting there and also have built strong sports programs where these families might opt for Palma since the great recession. I think eventually ND could merge with Palma, and Palma should benefit and ND may have negative impact. I think sports could also benefit and maybe draw more back from Salinas High, Monterey, Gilroy, and Hollister but Palma definitely needs more land if they are to ever grow and merging the two schools would be best option. The structure of the schools seems to be a barrier (e.g., different Catholic order affiliations) , and Palma enrollment classification for sports may drop some as far as they are measured by 2X boys currently and that will be different. Palma used to be a Christian Brother School but spun off prior to all the scandals to a Charter School in the Church some of which even hit the school when it was part of the Christian Brother structure, which could have resulted in termination its existence. They retains an affiliation with Christian Brothers of Ireland and maintains brothers at the school and its Catholic orientation, but has mostly lay teachers and leadership.
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Interestingly Palma had huge participation on frosh team with 65 on the team and lots of speed and size (lots of huge kids on this team). JV only have about 29 (all sophs but would expect some frosh up after a few games) and Varsity 55 (only two sophs up). Looks like the program will have a down year next season but could have a big resurgence after next season. This season will be a battle between Palma, Salinas and Aptos (could be better this year than last season). Hollister should be better than last season, and Monterey has a D1 to be QB who is a Junior and maybe 1-2 D1 receivers and punishing RB. Monterey has small numbers but they could end up upsetting one of the top 3 teams and tied Hollister last season.
By the way, the Monterey QB probably should be on your top 30 list for class of 2025. Preston White, QB • Jr. • 6' 4" • 205 lbs, 159/276 for 2,833 yards and 30TDs as a soph -
View: http://www.hudl.com/v/2JzEiw
Preston will be highly recruited.
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