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PCAL Week 11

Last week- 7-5 (Brutal week) Overall 113-38



Gabilan- Well safe to say the Soquel is the best team in the PCAL. Great statement win over Salinas last week. According to the projections Palma still looks like it is going to make the playoffs, but really, they don’t deserve it this year. Props to Monterey coaching for getting QB2 ready for his first varsity start. Hollister is literally an enigma wrapped up in a question. 2 years in a row losing to Alvarez? This week should be fun as playoff seedings will be decided. This is interesting to me, if Alvarez upsets Palma, they will still not go to playoffs after beating both Palma and Hollister and finishing in a tie for 4th place in the league, ahead of both aforementioned schools. They lose the 4th place tiebreaker (auto bid) to Aptos based on head-to-head, and Palma and Hollister will both have more CCS point and make the playoff field. That just seems wrong.

Fri 11/08 Salinas (CA) at Hollister (CA), 7:30pm -Hollister beat up Aptos, and had the closest Gabilan game with Soquel. Then proceeds to lose its next 4 games in a row and will probably finish in 7th place. Yet somehow still make playoffs? Salinas 34-7

Fri 11/08 Seaside (CA) at Monterey (CA), 7:30pm- When QB1 went down, I though Monterey season was over. Great job by coaching staff rallying this team and implementing JV QB into the varsity. This will be a nice warm up for them prior to playoffs. Monterey 38-14

Fri 11/08 Palma (Salinas, CA) vs Alvarez (Salinas, CA) at Salinas Sports Complex (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm -Alvarez has been playing really good football the past couple weeks, 1 pt loss to Aptos and a big win over Hollister. If they beat Palma CCS needs to figure a way to get them into the field. Alvarez 24-23

Fri 11/08 Aptos (CA) at Soquel (CA), 7:00pm This could be a trap game for Soquel playing their old SCCAL rival after a big win and looking forward to playoffs. But I think this team is way to good for that. Soquel 35-7

Mission North – North Monterey County is going to the playoffs. That is really all I can say about this division. Can’t tell you who else is going, can’t tell who is going to finish first. Can’t tell you why Watsonville can lose to Seaside but beat Alisal and MVC. Can’t tell you why Alisal can beat Scott’s Valley this weekend and still not make the playoffs if MVC beats St Francis and Watsonville beats NMC. Chaos. I am going to go out on a very small limb and say that Alisal will get the 2nd playoff spot.

Fri 11/08 Scotts Valley (CA) at Alisal (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm- If Alisal wins they should get in, as long as NMC or St Francis wins as well. I wonder if all the MVC and St Francis players will be on the Scott’s Valley sideline. Alisal 24-17

Fri 11/08 Watsonville (CA) at North Monterey County (Castroville, CA), 7:30pm – NMC wins, they get to hang the championship banner. If Watsonville wins, then Alisal could be in trouble. NMC 28-7

Sat 11/09 St. Francis (Watsonville, CA) at Monte Vista Christian (Watsonville, CA), 7:30pm: This game takes place on Saturday if the 2 predictions come through on Friday this game means nothing but pride. St Francis needs Alisal to lose and a win to make the playoffs. MVC needs a win and a Alisal Loss or a NMC loss in order to create a 3 way tie to get in. MVC 28-14

Mission South (North Salinas Bye)-Nice and simple. Carmel has secured the division crown and North Salinas has a bye week to prepare for the playoffs. Everyone else will be building towards next year. Next year should be fun as Carmel will drop way back to the pack. NS, PG, Soledad, and KC all have young teams and will be improved. Not to mention that RLS will probably be bumped up and Greenfield had the best defense in the league.

Fri 11/08 Soledad (CA) at King City (CA), 7:30pm-Some South County bragging rights on the line here as both these programs look to finish their season out on a positive note. KC RB/LB maybe one of the top players in the PCAL as a sophomore. Soledad improved as the season went on was close to making CCS as at large. Soledad 24-17

Fri 11/08 Carmel (CA) vs Pacific Grove (CA) at Monterey Peninsula College (Monterey, CA), 7:30pm. I would say because it is a rivalry game that PG has a chance. But here is the thing Carmel really cares about this game, more so than winning league. They would rather go 1-9 and beat PG than 9-1 and lose the Shoe. Carmel 48-14

Fri 11/08 Greenfield (CA) at Rancho San Juan (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm- The long season comes to an end for Rancho San Juan. They will be regulated to the Santa Lucia after scoring 29 total points this season. Wont get any easier for them vs Greenfield, whose defense only gave up 24 points to Carmel offense last week. Greenfield 24-0

Santa Lucia (Santa Cruz bye)- RLS is going back to the playoffs!!! Two division titles in 3 years! A quick shoutout to my alma mater: RLS participated in 8 sports this fall and won 6 league/division championships!! And yes The Santa Lucia is “C”, but the other 5 were in the top divisions!! This team is destined to move up to the Mission divisions next year, where they should be competitive if they stay healthy. Santa Cruz got it second win of the season, nice building blocks for them. SLV and Gonzales may be candidates to move up as well, it depends if the PCAL decides to move Seaside down.

Sat 11/09 San Lorenzo Valley (Felton, CA) at Pajaro Valley (Watsonville, CA), 12:30pm- SLV will have to lick its wounds as its perfect season came to an end. If they are still motivated they should be able to beat an improving Pajaro program. SLV 21-7

Sat 11/09 Gonzales (CA) vs Harbor (Santa Cruz, CA) at Soledad (CA), 7:30pm ; Harbor has had a tough year (again). Feel like the program took a step back this year with only 1 win. I don’t see them beating Gonzales. Gonzales 35-14

Sat 11/09 Marina (CA) at Stevenson (Pebble Beach, CA), 2:30pm- Take care of business and don’t get hurt. That’s what RLS has to do this Saturday vs a overmatched, but still dangerous Marina team. Then find out who we meet in the playoffs! RLS 34-13
 
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RLS13 said:
PCAL Week 11

Last week- 7-5 (Brutal week) Overall 113-38



Gabilan- Well safe to say the Soquel is the best team in the PCAL. Great statement win over Salinas last week. According to the projections Palma still looks like it is going to make the playoffs, but really, they don’t deserve it this year. Props to Monterey coaching for getting QB2 ready for his first varsity start. Hollister is literally an enigma wrapped up in a question. 2 years in a row losing to Alvarez? This week should be fun as playoff seedings will be decided. This is interesting to me, if Alvarez upsets Palma, they will still not go to playoffs after beating both Palma and Hollister and finishing in a tie for 4th place in the league, ahead of both aforementioned schools. They lose the 4th place tiebreaker (auto bid) to Aptos based on head-to-head, and Palma and Hollister will both have more CCS point and make the playoff field. That just seems wrong.

Fri 11/08 Salinas (CA) at Hollister (CA), 7:30pm -Hollister beat up Aptos, and had the closest Gabilan game with Soquel. Then proceeds to lose its next 4 games in a row and will probably finish in 7th place. Yet somehow still make playoffs? Salinas 34-7

Fri 11/08 Seaside (CA) at Monterey (CA), 7:30pm- When QB1 went down, I though Monterey season was over. Great job by coaching staff rallying this team and implementing JV QB into the varsity. This will be a nice warm up for them prior to playoffs. Monterey 38-14

Fri 11/08 Palma (Salinas, CA) vs Alvarez (Salinas, CA) at Salinas Sports Complex (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm -Alvarez has been playing really good football the past couple weeks, 1 pt loss to Aptos and a big win over Hollister. If they beat Palma CCS needs to figure a way to get them into the field. Alvarez 24-23

Fri 11/08 Aptos (CA) at Soquel (CA), 7:00pm This could be a trap game for Soquel playing their old SCCAL rival after a big win and looking forward to playoffs. But I think this team is way to good for that. Soquel 35-7

Mission North – North Monterey County is going to the playoffs. That is really all I can say about this division. Can’t tell you who else is going, can’t tell who is going to finish first. Can’t tell you why Watsonville can lose to Seaside but beat Alisal and MVC. Can’t tell you why Alisal can beat Scott’s Valley this weekend and still not make the playoffs if MVC beats St Francis and Watsonville beats NMC. Chaos. I am going to go out on a very small limb and say that Alisal will get the 2nd playoff spot.

Fri 11/08 Scotts Valley (CA) at Alisal (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm- If Alisal wins they should get in, as long as NMC or St Francis wins as well. I wonder if all the MVC and St Francis players will be on the Scott’s Valley sideline. Alisal 24-17

Fri 11/08 Watsonville (CA) at North Monterey County (Castroville, CA), 7:30pm – NMC wins, they get to hang the championship banner. If Watsonville wins, then Alisal could be in trouble. NMC 28-7

Sat 11/09 St. Francis (Watsonville, CA) at Monte Vista Christian (Watsonville, CA), 7:30pm: This game takes place on Saturday if the 2 predictions come through on Friday this game means nothing but pride. St Francis needs Alisal to lose and a win to make the playoffs. MVC needs a win and a Alisal Loss or a NMC loss in order to create a 3 way tie to get in. MVC 28-14

Mission South (North Salinas Bye)-Nice and simple. Carmel has secured the division crown and North Salinas has a bye week to prepare for the playoffs. Everyone else will be building towards next year. Next year should be fun as Carmel will drop way back to the pack. NS, PG, Soledad, and KC all have young teams and will be improved. Not to mention that RLS will probably be bumped up and Greenfield had the best defense in the league.

Fri 11/08 Soledad (CA) at King City (CA), 7:30pm-Some South County bragging rights on the line here as both these programs look to finish their season out on a positive note. KC RB/LB maybe one of the top players in the PCAL as a sophomore. Soledad improved as the season went on was close to making CCS as at large. Soledad 24-17

Fri 11/08 Carmel (CA) vs Pacific Grove (CA) at Monterey Peninsula College (Monterey, CA), 7:30pm. I would say because it is a rivalry game that PG has a chance. But here is the thing Carmel really cares about this game, more so than winning league. They would rather go 1-9 and beat PG than 9-1 and lose the Shoe. Carmel 48-14

Fri 11/08 Greenfield (CA) at Rancho San Juan (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm- The long season comes to an end for Rancho San Juan. They will be regulated to the Santa Lucia after scoring 29 total points this season. Wont get any easier for them vs Greenfield, whose defense only gave up 24 points to Carmel offense last week. Greenfield 24-0

Santa Lucia (Santa Cruz bye)- RLS is going back to the playoffs!!! Two division titles in 3 years! A quick shoutout to my alma mater: RLS participated in 8 sports this fall and won 6 league/division championships!! And yes The Santa Lucia is “C”, but the other 5 were in the top divisions!! This team is destined to move up to the Mission divisions next year, where they should be competitive if they stay healthy. Santa Cruz got it second win of the season, nice building blocks for them. SLV and Gonzales may be candidates to move up as well, it depends if the PCAL decides to move Seaside down.

Sat 11/09 San Lorenzo Valley (Felton, CA) at Pajaro Valley (Watsonville, CA), 12:30pm- SLV will have to lick its wounds as its perfect season came to an end. If they are still motivated they should be able to beat an improving Pajaro program. SLV 21-7

Sat 11/09 Gonzales (CA) vs Harbor (Santa Cruz, CA) at Soledad (CA), 7:30pm ; Harbor has had a tough year (again). Feel like the program took a step back this year with only 1 win. I don’t see them beating Gonzales. Gonzales 35-14

Sat 11/09 Marina (CA) at Stevenson (Pebble Beach, CA), 2:30pm- Take care of business and don’t get hurt. That’s what RLS has to do this Saturday vs a overmatched, but still dangerous Marina team. Then find out who we meet in the playoffs! RLS 34-13
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1000% correct on Carmel and the Shoe. 1-9 and the Shoe over 9-1 and no Shoe.
 
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PCAL Week 11

Last week- 7-5 (Brutal week) Overall 113-38



Gabilan- Well safe to say the Soquel is the best team in the PCAL. Great statement win over Salinas last week. According to the projections Palma still looks like it is going to make the playoffs, but really, they don’t deserve it this year. Props to Monterey coaching for getting QB2 ready for his first varsity start. Hollister is literally an enigma wrapped up in a question. 2 years in a row losing to Alvarez? This week should be fun as playoff seedings will be decided. This is interesting to me, if Alvarez upsets Palma, they will still not go to playoffs after beating both Palma and Hollister and finishing in a tie for 4th place in the league, ahead of both aforementioned schools. They lose the 4th place tiebreaker (auto bid) to Aptos based on head-to-head, and Palma and Hollister will both have more CCS point and make the playoff field. That just seems wrong.

Fri 11/08 Salinas (CA) at Hollister (CA), 7:30pm -Hollister beat up Aptos, and had the closest Gabilan game with Soquel. Then proceeds to lose its next 4 games in a row and will probably finish in 7th place. Yet somehow still make playoffs? Salinas 34-7

Fri 11/08 Seaside (CA) at Monterey (CA), 7:30pm- When QB1 went down, I though Monterey season was over. Great job by coaching staff rallying this team and implementing JV QB into the varsity. This will be a nice warm up for them prior to playoffs. Monterey 38-14

Fri 11/08 Palma (Salinas, CA) vs Alvarez (Salinas, CA) at Salinas Sports Complex (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm -Alvarez has been playing really good football the past couple weeks, 1 pt loss to Aptos and a big win over Hollister. If they beat Palma CCS needs to figure a way to get them into the field. Alvarez 24-23

Fri 11/08 Aptos (CA) at Soquel (CA), 7:00pm This could be a trap game for Soquel playing their old SCCAL rival after a big win and looking forward to playoffs. But I think this team is way to good for that. Soquel 35-7

Mission North – North Monterey County is going to the playoffs. That is really all I can say about this division. Can’t tell you who else is going, can’t tell who is going to finish first. Can’t tell you why Watsonville can lose to Seaside but beat Alisal and MVC. Can’t tell you why Alisal can beat Scott’s Valley this weekend and still not make the playoffs if MVC beats St Francis and Watsonville beats NMC. Chaos. I am going to go out on a very small limb and say that Alisal will get the 2nd playoff spot.

Fri 11/08 Scotts Valley (CA) at Alisal (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm- If Alisal wins they should get in, as long as NMC or St Francis wins as well. I wonder if all the MVC and St Francis players will be on the Scott’s Valley sideline. Alisal 24-17

Fri 11/08 Watsonville (CA) at North Monterey County (Castroville, CA), 7:30pm – NMC wins, they get to hang the championship banner. If Watsonville wins, then Alisal could be in trouble. NMC 28-7

Sat 11/09 St. Francis (Watsonville, CA) at Monte Vista Christian (Watsonville, CA), 7:30pm: This game takes place on Saturday if the 2 predictions come through on Friday this game means nothing but pride. St Francis needs Alisal to lose and a win to make the playoffs. MVC needs a win and a Alisal Loss or a NMC loss in order to create a 3 way tie to get in. MVC 28-14

Mission South (North Salinas Bye)-Nice and simple. Carmel has secured the division crown and North Salinas has a bye week to prepare for the playoffs. Everyone else will be building towards next year. Next year should be fun as Carmel will drop way back to the pack. NS, PG, Soledad, and KC all have young teams and will be improved. Not to mention that RLS will probably be bumped up and Greenfield had the best defense in the league.

Fri 11/08 Soledad (CA) at King City (CA), 7:30pm-Some South County bragging rights on the line here as both these programs look to finish their season out on a positive note. KC RB/LB maybe one of the top players in the PCAL as a sophomore. Soledad improved as the season went on was close to making CCS as at large. Soledad 24-17

Fri 11/08 Carmel (CA) vs Pacific Grove (CA) at Monterey Peninsula College (Monterey, CA), 7:30pm. I would say because it is a rivalry game that PG has a chance. But here is the thing Carmel really cares about this game, more so than winning league. They would rather go 1-9 and beat PG than 9-1 and lose the Shoe. Carmel 48-14

Fri 11/08 Greenfield (CA) at Rancho San Juan (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm- The long season comes to an end for Rancho San Juan. They will be regulated to the Santa Lucia after scoring 29 total points this season. Wont get any easier for them vs Greenfield, whose defense only gave up 24 points to Carmel offense last week. Greenfield 24-0

Santa Lucia (Santa Cruz bye)- RLS is going back to the playoffs!!! Two division titles in 3 years! A quick shoutout to my alma mater: RLS participated in 8 sports this fall and won 6 league/division championships!! And yes The Santa Lucia is “C”, but the other 5 were in the top divisions!! This team is destined to move up to the Mission divisions next year, where they should be competitive if they stay healthy. Santa Cruz got it second win of the season, nice building blocks for them. SLV and Gonzales may be candidates to move up as well, it depends if the PCAL decides to move Seaside down.

Sat 11/09 San Lorenzo Valley (Felton, CA) at Pajaro Valley (Watsonville, CA), 12:30pm- SLV will have to lick its wounds as its perfect season came to an end. If they are still motivated they should be able to beat an improving Pajaro program. SLV 21-7

Sat 11/09 Gonzales (CA) vs Harbor (Santa Cruz, CA) at Soledad (CA), 7:30pm ; Harbor has had a tough year (again). Feel like the program took a step back this year with only 1 win. I don’t see them beating Gonzales. Gonzales 35-14

Sat 11/09 Marina (CA) at Stevenson (Pebble Beach, CA), 2:30pm- Take care of business and don’t get hurt. That’s what RLS has to do this Saturday vs a overmatched, but still dangerous Marina team. Then find out who we meet in the playoffs! RLS 34-13
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Maybe your best work all season, trying to make sense or the non-sensical RLS! If Alvarez can rack up another W I really hope they get a bid to the playoffs.

Impressive work all season!
 
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One story and one scenario:

1. This happened close to 30 years ago in the Southern Section, where they have league-integrity rules.

There was a team that was having a miserable year. Entering the final regular season game, they were 0-9. Everyone else in the league had at least 3 or 4 wins under their belt. Sure enough, that winless team pulled off an upset in the final week causing a 3-way tie for 4th place in league, which had 4 automatic playoff bids. The only mechanism the league had to determine that last spot was a coin toss. Guess who won.

Yes, the now 1-9 team secured a playoff spot with the coin toss win.

2. In the North Coast Section, you can go winless in league, 1-9 overall with the win against a team not even from the NCS, and still be considered for the playoffs.

It's true. The section has a 0.500 rule where a team must go 0.500 overall, in league, or against teams in their base enrollment division. If a small team plays in a league with larger opponents (or even a large school in a league with smaller schools), as long as that single win comes against someone your own relative size, it counts. Not only that, the last part of the rule includes any school, regardless of CIF section or even state (DLS almost missed the playoffs in 2004 because of their loss to Mission Viejo).

The bottom line is that every section has their rules and the Central Coast Section is no different. Everyone know those rules before the season starts. Although in a different way, just like in the NCS, every game matters. Say it with me... "All games matter!"

Alvarez knew the rules before the season started and chose one of the easiest paths possible... and still couldn't complete it without falling twice. In fact, had they been a Mission North team this year, they would have taken 3rd place and still missed the playoffs!

Palma (fundamentally) chose to play two A teams in non-league. Hollister played 3, although 2 were from the Mount Hamilton so blame the CCS for that one. Alvarez played 0 A teams.

Sorry, dude. League-integrity is not the way to go, since it can render all non-league games meaningless. At the same time, we should not be able to completely ignore all league or sectional games.

Thankfully, in the CCS, all games matter.
 
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Please elaborate on your statement about palma not deserving to make the playoffs...Really curious why you think they don't deserve it....
 
Palma is young and inconsistent. Not sure they can beat Wilcox but otherwise should be pretty competitive against the rest of D2 if they play their A game.
 
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His complaints of Alvarez not getting in is a mute point. Still curious on why @RLS13 thinks Palma doesnt deserve to be in the playoffs...
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I have been a way for the past few days so sorry did not respond sooner. My statement was based on Palma losing to Alvarez, they stepped up and won the game. Had they lost I felt it was not right that both them and Hollister would bypass Alvarez.

As @Cal 14 explained those are the rules, and while I understand and appreciate them, just did not sit well that Alvarez would finish in 5th place and be bypassed by the 6th and 7th place teams. CCS still has the "best" playoff format (imo), but they or the PCAL should have an ability to make a switch if necessary. Just my 2 cents.
 
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I have been a way for the past few days so sorry did not respond sooner. My statement was based on Palma losing to Alvarez, they stepped up and won the game. Had they lost I felt it was not right that both them and Hollister would bypass Alvarez.

As @Cal 14 explained those are the rules, and while I understand and appreciate them, just did not sit well that Alvarez would finish in 5th place and be bypassed by the 6th and 7th place teams. CCS still has the "best" playoff format (imo), but they or the PCAL should have an ability to make a switch if necessary. Just my 2 cents.
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If PCAL had done the right thing and placed Alvarez in a B league this year, they probably compete for a league title and playoff spot.
 
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Agreed. It was obvious from the end of last year Carmel should have been in Gabilan this year and Alvarez in the Mission. I understand Carmel is a smaller public school, but this years senior class is very special and it was evident last year. They probably finish 2nd or third in the Gabilan this year.
 
Can someone provide a break down of Soquel? Impressive record! Looking forward to their match up @ Riordan Saturday.
 
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Can someone provide a break down of Soquel? Impressive record! Looking forward to their match up @ Riordan Saturday.
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I've seen them play a few times this year. Soquel is very well coached. Head coach is former NFL safety Dwight Lowery.

Offense- Junior QB Sam Whelan is the real deal. Athletic and reads the field well. He can make all the throws. He has a great feel for the pocket and will extend plays. No big time weapons at the skill positions. They are all very serviceable. RB #0 is on the smaller side but he runs hard. He can rip off some chunk plays. OL isn't anything special in terms of size, but they can grind you out. They run a conservative offense and like to take their shots down field at the right time. Passing game is a lot of roll outs and flood route concepts. Whelan will throw across his body into traffic.

Defense- They are tough on defense. Their corners play extremely aggressive. They disguise well. They aren't afraid to leave them on an island in coverage. #13 and #9 are dogs. They will get in your WRs face and be physical. The DL is quick and athletic. Not a lot of size. LBs attack downhill. #6 is a good DE with good size. They contain well. Very disciplined. They don't look like anything special. Lowery has them prepared though.

STs- This is their weak spot. They don't have much of a kicker from what I have seen. Punter is one of the CBs. Salinas blocked a punt and got really close to blocking another.

Plain and simple don't judge them on how they look. They are legit. Should be a good game.
 
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Agreed. It was obvious from the end of last year Carmel should have been in Gabilan this year and Alvarez in the Mission. I understand Carmel is a smaller public school, but this years senior class is very special and it was evident last year. They probably finish 2nd or third in the Gabilan this year.
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Carmel wouldn't beat Soquel or Salinas and would have a tough game against Palma. Carmel defense is weak and could have a tough game against even Hollister. They will have a tough playoff in D3 but should be favored.
 
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I've seen them play a few times this year. Soquel is very well coached. Head coach is former NFL safety Dwight Lowery.

Offense- Junior QB Sam Whelan is the real deal. Athletic and reads the field well. He can make all the throws. He has a great feel for the pocket and will extend plays. No big time weapons at the skill positions. They are all very serviceable. RB #0 is on the smaller side but he runs hard. He can rip off some chunk plays. OL isn't anything special in terms of size, but they can grind you out. They run a conservative offense and like to take their shots down field at the right time. Passing game is a lot of roll outs and flood route concepts. Whelan will throw across his body into traffic.

Defense- They are tough on defense. Their corners play extremely aggressive. They disguise well. They aren't afraid to leave them on an island in coverage. #13 and #9 are dogs. They will get in your WRs face and be physical. The DL is quick and athletic. Not a lot of size. LBs attack downhill. #6 is a good DE with good size. They contain well. Very disciplined. They don't look like anything special. Lowery has them prepared though.

STs- This is their weak spot. They don't have much of a kicker from what I have seen. Punter is one of the CBs. Salinas blocked a punt and got really close to blocking another.

Plain and simple don't judge them on how they look. They are legit. Should be a good game.
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I like Soquel but they have a nightmare matchup against Riordan. If Riordan plays their A game they are going to have a tough night especially stopping them and their speed and Riordan defense is very physical although Soquel QB is a plus. He will have to throw the ball. I'm surprised Soquel is favored. Riordan can be a slow starter and maybe Soquel can get an early lead.
 
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I'm surprised Calpreps has Palma favored by +3 away at Kezar over Sacred Heart Cathedral Prep which has Calpreps computer rating has the Irish 8+ higher than the Chieftains.
 
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Carmel wouldn't beat Soquel or Salinas and would have a tough game against Palma. Carmel defense is weak and could have a tough game against even Hollister. They will have a tough playoff in D3 but should be favored.
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I think Soquel would easily take down Carmel. I would take Carmel over Salinas. It would be a competitive game, but I give the coaching edge to Carmel. This isn't knocking Zenk because I think he is a tremendous coach. I do think Carmel would put together a better game plan to beat Salinas just like they have in the past. You've got your homer glasses on about Palma. Carmel beats them no problem. Common opponent Monterey. Palma couldn't beat Monterey with a back up QB playing. Palma is young and one dimensional. We will never know so it's all opinions. Thanks PCAL.
 
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Not really homer glasses....

Calpreps has Palma beating Carmel 38-35 (58%) reg season and with playoff bump 40-31 (78%) in neutral fields

Salinas beats Carmel 33-28 (86%)no playoff bump

Soquel beats Carmel 44-17 (96%) and 28-14 with playoffbump 998%)

Strange is Monterey is favored by 1 but not having QB would put them at bigger disadvantage (even though Carmel won in reg season its tough to win against a team twice in a season)

Carmel has 7 and 8pt (playoff) advantage on Hollister and bigger advantage on Aptos.


Carmel defense is its issue from what I have seen. A good ball control team can keep ball out of the Carmel offense which is pretty good and decent defense will slow them down. Take Pacific Grove as an example but most teams in Gab have better defenses. Yes- rivalry game and Carmel was asleep the first half, but PG isn't very good. If they had a better defense I would say should be clear advantage over Palma but they don't. Palma is young but when they play their best games they are tough. They have talent on both sides of the ball. Not saying they will win, but not a given and I think they would match up better.
 
The "Golden Era" (pun intended), of Carmel football has always been an outscore you mentality. They play a very blitz happy big play style of defense, and quite frankly can not tackle to save their lives. It has been like that ever since Golden took over the program. He does not like kids to go both ways so majority of top athletes played offense first. But come playoffs he will have kids play on both sides for much longer stretches.

I stand by my statement that Carmel would finish 2nd or 3rd, they already beat the third place team at full strength, and I see them matching up pretty well with Salinas. This years Palma team is not the same as years past. This Carmel team probably wins 7 out of 10 times same with Hollister and Aptos.

I will say this though, Carmel's teams are not used to playing that physical style of football week in and week out, even Alvarez will play physical with you. Carmel doe not have the roster depth the other Gabilan teams have, so 1 or 2 key injuries, and it is a very different team.

Gabilan would of been way more fun this year if Carmel was in it!!
 
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Not really homer glasses....

Calpreps has Palma beating Carmel 38-35 (58%) reg season and with playoff bump 40-31 (78%) in neutral fields

Salinas beats Carmel 33-28 (86%)no playoff bump

Soquel beats Carmel 44-17 (96%) and 28-14 with playoffbump 998%)

Strange is Monterey is favored by 1 but not having QB would put them at bigger disadvantage (even though Carmel won in reg season its tough to win against a team twice in a season)

Carmel has 7 and 8pt (playoff) advantage on Hollister and bigger advantage on Aptos.


Carmel defense is its issue from what I have seen. A good ball control team can keep ball out of the Carmel offense which is pretty good and decent defense will slow them down. Take Pacific Grove as an example but most teams in Gab have better defenses. Yes- rivalry game and Carmel was asleep the first half, but PG isn't very good. If they had a better defense I would say should be clear advantage over Palma but they don't. Palma is young but when they play their best games they are tough. They have talent on both sides of the ball. Not saying they will win, but not a given and I think they would match up better.
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Calpreps predictions are the reason I stopped submitting picks in the weekly contest. I used it for teams I had no clue about and loss them all. Point is it's a computer generated prediction based on data. It only meas so much. I'm sure Calpreps had Palma and Salinas beating Carmel in all their other regular season matchups in the past years too.

Give me Carmel 48- Palma 24 all day 😂
 
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