SFL, whose is it? Folsom's!

[smashmouthrick]

Yeah, they've certainly been snakebit in that regard. Tiger Sorenson, Jimmy Laughrea and Michael Nolan all suffered collar bone fractures and Max O'Rourke suffered a fractured femur that was weakened by a tumor discovered in his hip joint.

Laughrea's injury occurred in the Section Final and certainly decreased their chances in the State Bowl game against Servite. I personally believe they win that game had he played.

O'Rourke's injury derailed a promising 2014 season in which they were 6-0 with him starting under center and also booming long FG's. He accounted for 17 TD's and only 1 INT through 5+ games. His loss was a huge blow to that team.

TR, do you think it has anything to do with the offensive scheme i.e. pistol where Rocklin QB's do their share of running or just bad fortune?

Agree with Laughrea in Carson they overcome that 3point loss to Servite in 2009. Laughrea was Rocklin's 2nd leading rusher behind Cummings, would have made a difference in that game.

Just hate to see Sr's out for extended periods with injuries. Hope Nolan is back in <2mo.

 

[smashmouthrick]

Good article on NU and good to see their confidence rising. Looking forward to see them climb back into SFL competitiveness
http://www.theunion.com/news/sports/24037814-113/prep-football-nevada-union-looks-to-make-statement#

 

[RunningRon]

Will be interesting game with Rocklin - I'm with you, do hope the Miners right the ship.

 

[smashmouthrick]

Del Oro 42, Granite Bay 21:
Game was closer than the final score indicates. DO 28, GB 21 at the half. GB lost two starters during the game but they played tough. What GB may not have in horses this year they have heart & grit. They just kept pounding the rock at DO's DL and on their first possession broke a long TD run. Down but by no means not out. Next week will be another good test for them when they go to the Dawg house. DO looked pretty solid, not spectacular but solid. DO makes a trip to Hooper stadium next week where the Miners will continue their "serving SFL notice" campaign.

Folsom 42, Woodcreek 21:
Wood creek kept it close(within 1 TD) all the way to the 4th quarter so they gave Folsom a game. Sounds like another game that was closer than the score indicates. Folsom receives a tough GB team and the Creek goes to Oak Ridge next week.

Rocklin 48, Nevada Union 35:
NU shut out Rocklin in the first quarter 14-0 so sounds like they got off to a hot start. Rocklin put up 3 TD's in the second quarter to end the half with NU leading 28-21. Certainly NU served notice the first half they are back, welcome back Miners! Rocklin rests and NU receives DO next week.

Oak Ridge had a bye. While they lost to a good Reed team last week they smashed Vista Del Lago, Burbank and a good Vacaville team.

While the wins for winning teams were expected they had to be earned. Rankings/Ratings were thrown out the window in the first half of all these games. Woodcreek and NU are not going to sit on the bench and watch the SFL fly past them this year or so it appears. I'm very interested to see how NU does against DO next week as should tell more about their "welcome back to the SFL" story.

My ranking update after this weeks play:
#1 Del Oro
#2 Folsom
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 NU
#6 Woodcreek

 

[smashmouthrick]

Forgot to add my rationale for DO at #1:
At the beginning of this thread I stated that Folsom is #1 until an SFL team knocks them off. Both Folsom and Del Oro have almost the exact same average SOS and win margins through the first 5 games. The Dragons matched up well with Folsom with athletic and fast DB's/LB's where the Bells matched up well with DO with their stout run defense. DO beat the Bells on the road where the Dragons beat Folsom at the Dawg Pound. I may be reaching a bit with this but I believe that DO is just playing better and more consistent ball than Folsom right now so I'm going with DO.

 

[ThunderRam]

TR, do you think it has anything to do with the offensive scheme i.e. pistol where Rocklin QB's do their share of running or just bad fortune?

Just bad luck.

I may be reaching a bit with this but I believe that DO is just playing better and more consistent ball than Folsom right now so I'm going with DO.

Not reaching at all. Folsom has lost 2 of their past 6 games while Del Oro has won 13 straight beating some good competition along the way

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

Is it just me or in the past ~8years do Rocklin QB's have more serious injuries than other SFL teams?

Leaves them with Drew Wyant's sophomore son as their QB? He can toss it.

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

Like a number of fans here, as one that has played this game and loves it, this is not what I want to hear. Because this is true I worry about the future of football.

Its safety and a couple of other things. First, kids who play these other sports are also getting interest from colleges earlier than before. So, you see kids reacting by choosing to specialize in that other sport. For example, you saw the JV QB at Jesuit drop football for Lacrosse going into this season. You have that happening to some degree in Granite Bay as well. Second, the youth rugby,,lacrosse, baseball and soccer programs are very aggressive and they provide opportunities for the players all year long. Unlike football, they seek year around commitment from their kids rather overtly.

 

[RunningRon]

Del Oro 42, Granite Bay 21:
Game was closer than the final score indicates. DO 14, GB 7 at the half.....They just kept pounding the rock at DO's DL and on their first possession broke a long TD run.

Great atmosphere. The score was actually 28-21 at half. Del Oro defense gave up a lot in the first half, didn't have an answer for Granite Bay's run game. The Del Oro offense scored quickly with their QB controlling the game behind nice protection and their run game was great. Their QB running ability on top of his passing makes DO very diverse. Granite Bay looked very good both sides of ball, but DO was up and down the field. DO's defense made the necessary adjustments in the 2nd half to quiet the GB run game, although GB had some opportunities to make plays, but didn't haul in some nice throws by their QB. Don't see NU, Rocklin or Woodcreek getting by DO. Maybe Oak Ridge?Thinking the Folsom-DO matchup will decide the SFL title.

 

[ThunderRam]

DO's defense made the necessary adjustments in the 2nd half to quiet the GB run game

That's a staple of a Casey Taylor coached team.

Don't see NU, Rocklin or Woodcreek getting by DO.

I wouldn't discount the Rocklin rivalry game. Anything can happen in those. That said, the Thunder defense is a big question mark, as is their run game.

Rocklin has played inconsistently during every game. They've played great at times, but quite poorly at others.

Still, I wouldn't sleep on them against DO. The teams have split their past 10 meetings. And it's a rivalry game.

 

[smashmouthrick]

Great atmosphere. The score was actually 28-21 at half. Del Oro defense gave up a lot in the first half, didn't have an answer for Granite Bay's run game. The Del Oro offense scored quickly with their QB controlling the game behind nice protection and their run game was great. Their QB running ability on top of his passing makes DO very diverse. Granite Bay looked very good both sides of ball, but DO was up and down the field. DO's defense made the necessary adjustments in the 2nd half to quiet the GB run game, although GB had some opportunities to make plays, but didn't haul in some nice throws by their QB. Don't see NU, Rocklin or Woodcreek getting by DO. Maybe Oak Ridge?Thinking the Folsom-DO matchup will decide the SFL title.

I texted my wife at halftime with 28-21 score but fumbled to get it right here.

Agree was surprised that GB ran reasonably well first half. Good to see DO back to making good 2nd half adjustments again. Something they did not do consistently well early/mid last year.

Two of DO's best lineman going both ways were nicked up last night. You heard Luna's name making tackles on every other run play in first half but in 2nd half when he was nicked yet still played you heard his name only a few times. Hope he will be healthy next week.

Oak Ridge, Folsom and Rocklin will challenge DO. Can't look past NU at home next week as well(NU much better than Davis but look what happened to EG last night).

 

[smashmouthrick]

That's a staple of a Casey Taylor coached team.

I wouldn't discount the Rocklin rivalry game. Anything can happen in those....

Still, I wouldn't sleep on them against DO. The teams have split their past 10 meetings. And it's a rivalry game.

Agreed. The regular season game last year between Rocklin/DO was an anomaly as DO was in their funk. The section game between these two was a typical rivalry game. Expect no less than a good game this year.

 

[TheFolsomBulldog]

Rocklin will not beat Del Oro.

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

Rocklin will not beat Del Oro.

I agree. I would be very surprised if they did.

 

[smashmouthrick]

Week 5 results:

Del Oro 58, Nevada Union 21
Honestly I expected more from NU given the fight they gave Rocklin and Napa. NU pulled off some good plays, a long run and a long pass and few other good plays on O and an interception on D but the consistent fight was not there. NU had no answer for DO's run game. Those NU Fey brothers are very good athletes and without them NU may have only put up 7 points. DO just dominated in the trenches as DO put up a total of 602 yards with 529 of those rushing yards. DO bench came in half way in 3rd.

Folsom 42, Granite Bay 0
Granite Bay came in the game choosing to try to contain the pass with man coverage and putting 5 in the box. Well... they got burned by Folsom's run game which eventually helped Folsom's passing game as well. Sounds like coach Richardson exploited GB's defensive plan and good coaching/adjustments left GB with 0 points. Looks like the question "can Richardson go it alone without Taylor and thrive" is being answered and the answer is "yes". Not sure if the two GB starters that left the DO/GB game last week played last night or not. Good solid win for the Dawgs.

Oak Ridge 35, Woodcreek 14
Sounds like another game dominated in the trenches. OR resting after losing to Reed was ready for this one. OR QB Baldacchino ran 16 times for 140yards and can chuck the ball. Good QB's and good QB play seems to be a staple of OR.

Rocklin had a bye this week.

Now we have a head to head comparison between Folsom and DO. Both Folsom and DO scored the exact same points against Granite Bay so as logic alone would have it both teams appear to be a draw at O. I will say that DO has really surprised me this year with some different looks and plays I've seen introduced over their slate of games and makes me wonder what they may have up their sleeves for the Dawgs next week. DO playing some solid D as well as Folsom. Where I was impressed with DO's run D last night I was not impressed with some pass coverage break downs last night and if they don't get that cleaned up in a hurry Folsom is going to exploit that. DO has not matched up well with Folsom in the past4-5years, maybe different this year but I can say DO does not have a lot of speed in the secondary like the Dragons have. DO has been improving with their pass rush and will need to bring that next Friday. I just can't see an overwhelming advantage between either team right now and expect a great game @DO next week. I'm still going with DO as #1in SFL but we will have the definitive head to head answer next week.

Can't change OR vs Rocklin ranking as the Thunder did not play this week. I still think NU is the better team vs Woodcreek.

My Week-5 rankings(same as last week):
#1 Del Oro
#2 Folsom
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 NU
#6 Woodcreek

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

Folsom 42, Granite Bay 0
Granite Bay came in the game choosing to try to contain the pass with man coverage and putting 5 in the box. Well... they got burned by Folsom's run game which eventually helped Folsom's passing game as well. Sounds like coach Richardson exploited GB's defensive plan and good coaching/adjustments left GB with 0 points. Looks like the question "can Richardson go it alone without Taylor and thrive" is being answered and the answer is "yes". Not sure if the two GB starters that left the DO/GB game last week played last night or not. Good solid win for the Dawgs.

I saw the Granite Bay game. Folsom pulled out all the starters at the end of the 3rd quarter. Folsom ran the ball throughout the fourth quarter to kill the clock. It was not much of a game.

 

[smashmouthrick]

I saw the Granite Bay game. Folsom pulled out all the starters at the end of the 3rd quarter. Folsom ran the ball throughout the fourth quarter to kill the clock. It was not much of a game.

How did Folsom's lines look?

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

How did Folsom's lines look?

They looked good against granite bay. Folsom ran the ball effectively. Granite Bay did nothing on offense. And I do mean nothing.

 

[ThunderRam]

We already knew that GB wasn't very good. They've lost by 18+ points four times now.

Sure, they battled Del Oro for a while, but that's a rivalry game. And Folsom struggled with Woodcreek for most the game while Elk Grove lost to Davis. Sometimes a bad team can rise up and overachieve for a game. But on the whole, GB isn't very formidable this year.

 

[Leopold10]

Week 5 results:

Del Oro 58, Nevada Union 21
Honestly I expected more from NU given the fight they gave Rocklin and Napa. NU pulled off some good plays, a long run and a long pass and few other good plays on O and an interception on D but the consistent fight was not there. NU had no answer for DO's run game. Those NU Fey brothers are very good athletes and without them NU may have only put up 7 points. DO just dominated in the trenches as DO put up a total of 602 yards with 529 of those rushing yards. DO bench came in half way in 3rd.

Folsom 42, Granite Bay 0
Granite Bay came in the game choosing to try to contain the pass with man coverage and putting 5 in the box. Well... they got burned by Folsom's run game which eventually helped Folsom's passing game as well. Sounds like coach Richardson exploited GB's defensive plan and good coaching/adjustments left GB with 0 points. Looks like the question "can Richardson go it alone without Taylor and thrive" is being answered and the answer is "yes". Not sure if the two GB starters that left the DO/GB game last week played last night or not. Good solid win for the Dawgs.

Oak Ridge 35, Woodcreek 14
Sounds like another game dominated in the trenches. OR resting after losing to Reed was ready for this one. OR QB Baldacchino ran 16 times for 140yards and can chuck the ball. Good QB's and good QB play seems to be a staple of OR.

Rocklin had a bye this week.

Now we have a head to head comparison between Folsom and DO. Both Folsom and DO scored the exact same points against Granite Bay so as logic alone would have it both teams appear to be a draw at O. I will say that DO has really surprised me this year with some different looks and plays I've seen introduced over their slate of games and makes me wonder what they may have up their sleeves for the Dawgs next week. DO playing some solid D as well as Folsom. Where I was impressed with DO's run D last night I was not impressed with some pass coverage break downs last night and if they don't get that cleaned up in a hurry Folsom is going to exploit that. DO has not matched up well with Folsom in the past4-5years, maybe different this year but I can say DO does not have a lot of speed in the secondary like the Dragons have. DO has been improving with their pass rush and will need to bring that next Friday. I just can't see an overwhelming advantage between either team right now and expect a great game @DO next week. I'm still going with DO as #1in SFL but we will have the definitive head to head answer next week.

Can't change OR vs Rocklin ranking as the Thunder did not play this week. I still think NU is the better team vs Woodcreek.

My Week-5 rankings(same as last week):
#1 Del Oro
#2 Folsom
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 NU
#6 Woodcreek

the comment about OR and good QB play kind of throws me off because I was at the game this Friday and he ran the ball well #2 for OR but he has not impressed me throwing the ball this year. he was 6-11 73 yds 0 TD's vs Woodcreek. Maybe I am over reacting but I believe if a Team can take away OR's run game they will struggle trying to air it out this year.

 

[smashmouthrick]

the comment about OR and good QB play kind of throws me off because I was at the game this Friday and he ran the ball well #2 for OR but he has not impressed me throwing the ball this year. he was 6-11 73 yds 0 TD's vs Woodcreek. Maybe I am over reacting but I believe if a Team can take away OR's run game they will struggle trying to air it out this year.

I'm referring to historical OR QB's in general. Historically OR has had good QB's. WRT OR's current QB I'm referring to his legs and running ability.

With the exception of the Woodcreek and maybe Vacaville games it looks like OR's QB #2 passing average is a little lower than what OR historically & typically averages per game and well below vs Ian Book's(this kid was good) passing game averages. OR did pass for 277yards vs Reed.

 

[smashmouthrick]

Looking forward to the showdown this Friday between Folsom and Del Oro. While Oak Ridge & Rocklin will have some thing to say about this this game is likely for the SFL crown. Both teams are good & solid on both sides of the ball. Folsom coming off their best win over Granite Bay where Del Oro was not challenge as much last week @NU. Game is at Del Oro.

Del Oro has not beat Folsom since Folsom joined the SFL in 2014 where Folsom smacked DO good in both previous games. Last time DO beat Folsom was in a 2009 section semi final game when Dano Graves was at the Folsom helm. You can say "the rivalry is on".

The biggest challenging area I see with DO is their pass protection. While decent it has been inconsistent. Not a good place to have a weakness playing the spread. DO has consistently put pressure on the QB this year especially in the second half of games which should help their pass protection but those quick slants Folsom runs are very difficult to defend. DO does not have abundant speed in their secondary so I expect Folsom to at least cash in on the underneath pass game.

I've not seen Folsom play live this year so the only "challenging" observations I'm making are based on Folsom coach Richardson's comments. He said “We’ve got to protect the quarterback; we’ve got to be able to run the ball and we’ve got to be able to play great defense”, I will take that to mean those are the areas Folsom needs to clean up.

Del Oro averaging per game:
117 yards receiving
261 yards rushing

Folsom averaging per game:
306 yards receiving
185 yards rushing

Both teams have 22 sacks each.

Is the outcome as simple as who executes the following better: Folsom containing DO's run game and DO containing Folsom's pass game? Don't think so, both teams can run and pass despite the numbers.

Should be a close game down to the last possession.

 

[paul_johnson884]

Definitely the match we have been waiting for in the SJS. Two great programs and love the contrasting styles they play. Looks like a toss up on paper.

 

[hoopwilla]

Looking forward to the showdown this Friday between Folsom and Del Oro. While Oak Ridge & Rocklin will have some thing to say about this this game is likely for the SFL crown. Both teams are good & solid on both sides of the ball. Folsom coming off their best win over Granite Bay where Del Oro was not challenge as much last week @NU. Game is at Del Oro.

Del Oro has not beat Folsom since Folsom joined the SFL in 2014 where Folsom smacked DO good in both previous games. Last time DO beat Folsom was in a 2009 section semi final game when Dano Graves was at the Folsom helm. You can say "the rivalry is on".

The biggest challenging area I see with DO is their pass protection. While decent it has been inconsistent. Not a good place to have a weakness playing the spread. DO has consistently put pressure on the QB this year especially in the second half of games which should help their pass protection but those quick slants Folsom runs are very difficult to defend. DO does not have abundant speed in their secondary so I expect Folsom to at least cash in on the underneath pass game.

I've not seen Folsom play live this year so the only "challenging" observations I'm making are based on Folsom coach Richardson's comments. He said “We’ve got to protect the quarterback; we’ve got to be able to run the ball and we’ve got to be able to play great defense”, I will take that to mean those are the areas Folsom needs to clean up.

Del Oro averaging per game:
117 yards receiving
261 yards rushing

Folsom averaging per game:
306 yards receiving
185 yards rushing

Both teams have 22 sacks each.

Is the outcome as simple as who executes the following better: Folsom containing DO's run game and DO containing Folsom's pass game? Don't think so, both teams can run and pass despite the numbers.

Should be a close game down to the last possession.

Good information. Can you reverse it and tell us how many yards they allow?

 

[larry legend33]

I'm referring to historical OR QB's in general. Historically OR has had good QB's. WRT OR's current QB I'm referring to his legs and running ability.

With the exception of the Woodcreek and maybe Vacaville games it looks like OR's QB #2 passing average is a little lower than what OR historically & typically averages per game and well below vs Ian Book's(this kid was good) passing game averages. OR did pass for 277yards vs Reed.

Trust me... OR does not have a good QB this year. I've been to several games and its a weak link for them. But totally agree that in the past they have had some great ones and typically the passer for OR goes on to play at some level in college.

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

Trust me... OR does not have a good QB this year. I've been to several games and its a weak link for them. But totally agree that in the past they have had some great ones and typically the passer for OR goes on to play at some level in college.

Larry, I am noticing your comments on the QB situation at OR. Should they be giving more playing time to one of their other kids? Or are they playing the best guy and they just don't have any other horses in the barn? Just curious because, if you are right and there are other horses in the barn, couldn't they fix that situation and be just fine?

 

[smashmouthrick]

Good information. Can you reverse it and tell us how many yards they allow?

Would be interesting to see those stats and broken down between run and pass yards allowed. Don't have the info at fingertips but the data can be mined. I'm guessing that DO's, could be wrong, that run yards allowed would be less vs Folsom due to DO maybe having a better run D therefore opposing teams throwing more on DO. Just a guess...

 

[smashmouthrick]

Trust me... OR does not have a good QB this year. I've been to several games and its a weak link for them. But totally agree that in the past they have had some great ones and typically the passer for OR goes on to play at some level in college.

How about his ability to run? Perception I get looking at his stats and from what I read he seems to at least have some mobility and legs.

 

[Leopold10]

Larry, I am noticing your comments on the QB situation at OR. Should they be giving more playing time to one of their other kids? Or are they playing the best guy and they just don't have any other horses in the barn? Just curious because, if you are right and there are other horses in the barn, couldn't they fix that situation and be just fine?

From my vague knowledge of each QB at OR i see they have one sophmore on Varisty i believe he is a Folsom transfer. And like i said last week vs Woodcreek i saw some of the JV game and their JV QB can throw. Now i know its JV football but it was like watching two different offenses on Friday after watching JV then Varsity. Oak Ridge JV spread it out and threw a lot, while the Varsity only threw 7-8 times. Now it could just be that they are calling plays to their strengths and the Varsity had success running so they continued to run I do not know I am not a coach. Will be interesting though to see how this year plays out going up against Del Oro and Folsom and trying to run the ball all the time, they will need to throw to win in the SFL. With three young QB's it will be interesting next year.

 

[RunningRon]

Good information. Can you reverse it and tell us how many yards they allow?

A quick look at maxpreps (8 minutes!) and it looks like this:

DO run allowed = 108 yd/game
Folsom run allowed = 188 yd/game
DO pass allowed = 170 yd/game
Folsom pass allowed = 136 yd/game

The challenging area for DO is the Folsom pass game. The Del Oro defense has yet to figure it out - they traditionally are not good against the spread. Unless they put 4-5 man pressure on the Bulldogs, their QB will sit back and find the open receiver all night. The Folsom pass game is quick hitting with big plays that usually score. Last year, Folsom averaged 282 yards per game, this year they average 306 yards passing a game.

 

[smashmouthrick]

A quick look at maxpreps (8 minutes!) and it looks like this:

DO run allowed = 108 yd/game
Folsom run allowed = 188 yd/game
DO pass allowed = 170 yd/game
Folsom pass allowed = 136 yd/game

The challenging area for DO is the Folsom pass game. The Del Oro defense has yet to figure it out - they traditionally are not good against the spread. Unless they put 4-5 man pressure on the Bulldogs, their QB will sit back and find the open receiver all night. The Folsom pass game is quick hitting with big plays that usually score. Last year, Folsom averaged 282 yards per game, this year they average 306 yards passing a game.

Good stuff

That is about what I would expect WRT the numbers. DO rarely pressures with more than 4 but agree they have to impact the QB's timing and bring 4 or 5 with maybe an occasional safety blitz. Will be interesting to see if DO plays Folsom pass defense any different this year. They need to do something different and take some risk.

 

[larry legend33]

From my vague knowledge of each QB at OR i see they have one sophmore on Varisty i believe he is a Folsom transfer. And like i said last week vs Woodcreek i saw some of the JV game and their JV QB can throw. Now i know its JV football but it was like watching two different offenses on Friday after watching JV then Varsity. Oak Ridge JV spread it out and threw a lot, while the Varsity only threw 7-8 times. Now it could just be that they are calling plays to their strengths and the Varsity had success running so they continued to run I do not know I am not a coach. Will be interesting though to see how this year plays out going up against Del Oro and Folsom and trying to run the ball all the time, they will need to throw to win in the SFL. With three young QB's it will be interesting next year.

They will be loaded next year at QB. They have a soph this year who is 6"4 200 on varsity that should really be playing. OR will be much more pass heavy going forward. JV team is the best I've seen in Norcal with maybe exception of DLS. Future looks bright.

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

From my vague knowledge of each QB at OR i see they have one sophmore on Varisty i believe he is a Folsom transfer. And like i said last week vs Woodcreek i saw some of the JV game and their JV QB can throw. Now i know its JV football but it was like watching two different offenses on Friday after watching JV then Varsity. Oak Ridge JV spread it out and threw a lot, while the Varsity only threw 7-8 times. Now it could just be that they are calling plays to their strengths and the Varsity had success running so they continued to run I do not know I am not a coach. Will be interesting though to see how this year plays out going up against Del Oro and Folsom and trying to run the ball all the time, they will need to throw to win in the SFL. With three young QB's it will be interesting next year.

So, next year, it will be a horse race between the current varsity starter, the Folsom transfer, and JV starter. One senior and two juniors. I wI'll place my bet on the senior and the JV kid alternating next year.

 

[Leopold10]

Is it just me or in the past ~8years do Rocklin QB's have more serious injuries than other SFL teams?

Ya i feel like every year for the past 3 years their starting QB has been injured. Very unfortunate for the kids and the program.

 

[larry legend33]

So, next year, it will be a horse race between the current varsity starter, the Folsom transfer, and JV starter. One senior and two juniors. I wI'll place my bet on the senior and the JV kid alternating next year.

Actually I thought #2 was a senior. Interesting he's only a Jr... I just look at arm strength and size and both JV kid and soph (jenner) on varsity have huge advantage. But current starter has them at 4-1 so you can't be too critical. I guess we will see once the hear of the schedule comes up. Rocklin, DO, and Folsom... Yikes.

Rocklin does always have a big injury. Just bad luck.

 

[RunningRon]

That is about what I would expect WRT the numbers. DO rarely pressures with more than 4 but agree they have to impact the QB's timing and bring 4 or 5 with maybe an occasional safety blitz. Will be interesting to see if DO plays Folsom pass defense any different this year. They need to do something different and take some risk.

Yep, seen enough defenses that sit back and drop 8 and get gashed because the QB has time to spare - lots of space to cover. Unless Del Oro does something different, Folsom will run it up.

current starter has them at 4-1 so you can't be too critical.

If the starter is 4-1 and they are scoring, the QB is doing the job - chuckle at the complaints. Game management end to end is very important as the leader of the offense, it's more than just passing the ball.

 

[ILOVETROJANFOOTBALL]

I just look at arm strength.... But current starter has them at 4-1 .

Whatever the case may be, the current starter is fast and can run the ball pretty effectively. I have seen him in action. And, arm strength is not as important as accuracy under the pressure of varsity level coverage and pressure. That's a whole different animal as was mentioned.

 

[smashmouthrick]

Whatever the case may be, the current starter is fast and can run the ball pretty effectively. I have seen him in action. And, arm strength is not as important as accuracy under the pressure of varsity level coverage and pressure. That's a whole different animal as was mentioned.

Sounds like to defend OR you stack the box and make the QB throw

 

[Leopold10]

Yep, seen enough defenses that sit back and drop 8 and get gashed because the QB has time to spare - lots of space to cover. Unless Del Oro does something different, Folsom will run it up.



If the starter is 4-1 and they are scoring, the QB is doing the job - chuckle at the complaints. Game management end to end is very important as the leader of the offense, it's more than just passing the ball.

I Agree with you, but they are 4-1 against who? the best team they played Was Reed and they got beat. I am just stating the fact that to be successful in the SFl vs Folsom/Del Oro you cant only throw 7 times.

 

[MCIC]

I thought I would share a little about OR QBs...

Marco, the starter, is a junior and is just being coached up to the QB position this past offseason. He is a transfer from the Elk Grove area. He currently has a 125.3 QB rating (top10 in SJS for QBs with 50 or more attempts) with 12 passing TDs to 1 INT plus 5 rushing TDs in 5 games, leading OR to a current 4-1 record. OR focuses more on efficiency than big numbers and that is why Marco is the starter and we believe thriving at the position. He is very athletic (Dano Graves is his cousin, so pretty good blood line), and he will be one of the fastest players on the field every Friday night. He gets better at throwing every week. He didn't throw much his last game because we ran for over 400 yards as a team and it wasn't needed. He has a bright future (he's a great kid, high football IQ, and a leader)...we are excited to have him.

Matt, is a sophomore who stands 6"3 and 210. He is a transfer from Folsom. He is just learning the QB position as well. Big and athletic (primary sport is baseball). He comes from an athletic family - older brother is Brad Jenner, a kicka$$ senior LB at Folsom High. Matt has a great arm and moves pretty well for his size (had a 45 yard run vs Woodcreek last week). Again, efficiency is key, and he is progressing well. He decided to stay on varsity to gain the varsity experience, getting second team reps, which will pay dividends down the road.

Cooper, another sophomore, transferred in from Arizona. He is the JV QB and is doing a great job on a very athletic team. We are excited to have coop and that soph group. Cooper can really sling it, probably one of the best QB passers at the JV level. He is undersize, but has a great competitive nature and will find himself in the mix with Marco and Matt next season.

To get back to topic....who's is it, in the SFL?

Throw out the Xs and Os and you will find the teams that win in the SFL are the ones who win the physicality battle that given week. OR will focus on efficiency and physicality each week.