I agree that physicality is probably the most fundamental aspect to success and important in a league like the SFL but also making X's & O's adjustments is right up there as well.
SFL, whose is it? Folsom's!
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I agree that physicality is probably the most fundamental aspect to success and important in a league like the SFL but also making X's & O's adjustments is right up there as well.
Smashmouthrick,
I agree with you. The coaching staffs are well appreciated in the SFL. The staffs can only prepare the players, but the players are the one that make the plays. In the SFL, I've seen defenses align correctly to offenses and vice versa, but physicality was the difference. Most all the staffs do an incredible job of adjustments!
I agree with you. The coaching staffs are well appreciated in the SFL. The staffs can only prepare the players, but the players are the one that make the plays. In the SFL, I've seen defenses align correctly to offenses and vice versa, but physicality was the difference. Most all the staffs do an incredible job of adjustments!
Folsom vs Del Oro, one of the MaxPreps top-10 games in the nation
I'll be there early for JV game DO JV @6-0, Folsom JV @5-1 losing to Granite Bay by one point. Folsom freshman smacked DO Last night 41-6
Expect full house tonight with Mr. Davidson on the sidelines.
I'll be there early for JV game DO JV @6-0, Folsom JV @5-1 losing to Granite Bay by one point. Folsom freshman smacked DO Last night 41-6
Expect full house tonight with Mr. Davidson on the sidelines.
I'm pretty sure I'll be out in Loomis for this one, Rick.
You gotta spot for me?
I'm pretty sure I'll be out in Loomis for this one, Rick.
You gotta spot for me?
Got you covered TR!
I'm pretty sure I'll be out in Loomis for this one, Rick.
You gotta spot for me?
Plan to be there unless the wife steps in, thinks we are going to MIkunis....hmmmm....where you gonna be?
Wow, did not see the Folsom smackdown of DO coming. Folsom has some athletes regardless of supposedly reloading. Congrats to Folsom for the decisive win!
DO did try a few blitzes and 5 man pass rush but got burned on both blitzes. Folsom is just one of those teams that DO does not match up well against.
Now it is down to Folsom or OR with my money on Folsom. What I saw is Folsom QB is good but nothing special it was more about Folsom's athletes and executing very well and well coached.
My ranking for this week:
#1 Folsom
#2 Del Oro
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 Woodcreek
#6 NU
DO did try a few blitzes and 5 man pass rush but got burned on both blitzes. Folsom is just one of those teams that DO does not match up well against.
Now it is down to Folsom or OR with my money on Folsom. What I saw is Folsom QB is good but nothing special it was more about Folsom's athletes and executing very well and well coached.
My ranking for this week:
#1 Folsom
#2 Del Oro
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 Woodcreek
#6 NU
I went to Rocklin vs OR game and i brought this up before, but i just do not see OR beating Folsom or Del Oro this year with their passing game. Now on the other side of things they have RAN the ball extremely well, but can they do that against a Folsom or Del Oro Defense, I am just not sure. Over two SFL games OR QB is ( 14-31 for 171 Yards, 0 TD's and a QB rating of 65.9 ) . Maybe i Am just used to Ian Book and OR passing a lot since changing their offense. and the OR QB does have great speed and can run well. But I feel like to win the SFL you need to be balanced. My money is on Folsom taking the SFL easily now that they got past DO.
Leopold- Exactly what I said too. Folsom will win by an average of at least 21 pts in all of there remaining SFL games. They will not be challenged. OR QB is average for HS and way below average for what OR usually produces. Nice team but I don't see them beating DO or Folsom.
When Folsom gets in a groove and is able to get 3 & outs on Defense and get the ball into their offenses hands they are hard to beat. The key to beating Folsom is Time of Posession and not allowing them to make adjustments on offense with multiple drives. Which is why Woodcreek took them into the 4th. They chewed the clock up and limited Folsom's offense from being on the field. So as much as DO defense was bad, their offense needed to keep them off the field with long drives and TD's.
Agree L10, what DO did in their first possession in the run should have told them to stay with the ground game - they were mauling the bulldogs - instead they fumble a backward pass. Second possession started backed up, followed by a Folsom kick off recovery, and the DO defense could not stop them whatsoever. It all led to Folsom offense owning the ball most of game.
Yeah, when that happened I told smashmouth that they were trying to get too cute. There was no reason to run such a play. Stick with what's working until they prove they can stop it. Plus, you grind the clock and shorten the game.
To me, that play turned the game. It allowed Folsom to play with a 2 score lead and DO just isn't built to play from behind against a quality opponent.
Don't get me wrong, they would have lost that game regardless considering how poorly they defended the pass, but it could have been a much different game had they answered Folsom's first score.
The truth hurts
Sorry bro. They aren't alone, though. Lots of teams have trouble with Folsom's spread attack.
To be honest I was not sure what DO's game plan was. I thought their base plan would have been run and throw when you need to to limit Folsom's touches. They had success running early but abandoned it.
The muffed backwards pass added a lot more fuel to Folsom's fire and was the point of no return for DO.
The muffed backwards pass added a lot more fuel to Folsom's fire and was the point of no return for DO.
No change from last week:
#1 Folsom
#2 Del Oro
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 Woodcreek
#6 NU
DO/Rocklin game was generally ugly for both teams. DO is not in strong playoff form regardless of being down to their 3rd RB.
Showdown between DO and OR next week will more or less solidify SFL rankings. SFL gets 4 teams in the playoffs but Rocklin needs one more win among Folsom/WoodCreek/GraniteBay to get their 2 league wins(at least that is how I believe it works).
#1 Folsom
#2 Del Oro
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 Woodcreek
#6 NU
DO/Rocklin game was generally ugly for both teams. DO is not in strong playoff form regardless of being down to their 3rd RB.
Showdown between DO and OR next week will more or less solidify SFL rankings. SFL gets 4 teams in the playoffs but Rocklin needs one more win among Folsom/WoodCreek/GraniteBay to get their 2 league wins(at least that is how I believe it works).
Auburn Journal has Rocklin 11 of 23 for 101 - less than 50% passing is not gonna do it. The Journal looks to say Rocklin only ran for 81 yards. Looks like DO's pass game struggled early (8 for 20 in first half), but was 5 for 5 in 2nd half and they rushed for 207 yards which is a good night.
SFL takes 4 teams, so yes 2 league wins are needed. Based on SOS and past results of all teams, see Rocklin putting down GB and maybe WC for at least one more win.
SFL takes 4 teams, so yes 2 league wins are needed. Based on SOS and past results of all teams, see Rocklin putting down GB and maybe WC for at least one more win.
Rocklin's offense looks downright anemic. No disrespect intended toward DO, but it's more Rocklin not being good right now than anything else (I think smashmouth agrees with me). They really couldn't move the ball at all. First score was on the strength of a blocked punt deep in Golden Eagles territory. Then they added a garbage TD late in the game once down 26-7. The Thunder defense doesn't have the speed or athleticism to contain a QB like Stone Smartt. While Folsom's front 7 made Smartt look really bad, Rocklin doesn't have the talent to do the same.
This game was largely controlled by the officials. I don't know the exact number, but it seemed like 30 or more flags were thrown. Most of them seemed to go against DO, quite honestly. Every other play was a hold or block in the back. Just over-officiated, IMO. Let the kids play and call the obvious ones that directly affect the play. It wasn't an enjoyable game to sit through.
Had they allowed the kids to play, DO wins by a couple more scores, IMO
There is a flicker of hope for Rocklin, though. As their starting QB, Michael Nolan, who was injured in week 3 against Whitney could be back by seasons end and just in time for the playoffs should they make it. He hoped to be available for the Folsom game on 10/28 but that isn't going to happen. Perhaps 11/4 against GB or the 1st round of the playoffs. The Thunder offense was much better when he was behind center. The current QB Cade Wyant has potential as a SOPH but just isn't quite ready yet. Nolan gives them a true dual threat option and is more polished. While Rocklin certainly has more problems than QB, they should be better if/when Nolan returns -- as evidenced by their performances early in the season against Grant Union and Napa.
Completely agree.
DO QB has the offense on his shoulders with his legs.
Hope Nolan tastes the playoffs as this is his senior year.
SFL(top 4) are really competing now for playoff positioning with wins although it seems that the CIF ends up doing what they want regardless of win/loss records.
This weeks games:
Folsom has a bye
Oak Ridge @Del Oro
Rocklin @Woodcreek
Nevada Union @Granite Bay
The OR/DO game will settle the SFL #2 & #3 positions(from my rank list) for this week. Last year OR beat DO 24-21 while DO was in their "funk" but was DO's best game in that 3week funk slide(excluding the 41-3 loss to De La Salle from the slide). Should be the best match up game so far this year for SFL. Could go either way but the last 2-3 regular season games DO seems to smell the playoffs and up their play. DO has done OK with containing mobile QB's but if OR QB has speed it will definitely challenge DO D. Speed challenges DO D period. Should be a game of QB's as both QB's are carrying their respective offense' with their legs.
Rocklin needs 1 more win to get in the playoffs, will they beat the Creek?
NU/GB game could be interesting. GB needs this and one more SFL game to get in playoffs.
Folsom has a bye
Oak Ridge @Del Oro
Rocklin @Woodcreek
Nevada Union @Granite Bay
The OR/DO game will settle the SFL #2 & #3 positions(from my rank list) for this week. Last year OR beat DO 24-21 while DO was in their "funk" but was DO's best game in that 3week funk slide(excluding the 41-3 loss to De La Salle from the slide). Should be the best match up game so far this year for SFL. Could go either way but the last 2-3 regular season games DO seems to smell the playoffs and up their play. DO has done OK with containing mobile QB's but if OR QB has speed it will definitely challenge DO D. Speed challenges DO D period. Should be a game of QB's as both QB's are carrying their respective offense' with their legs.
Rocklin needs 1 more win to get in the playoffs, will they beat the Creek?
NU/GB game could be interesting. GB needs this and one more SFL game to get in playoffs.
Del Oro -9 points
Woodcreek -3 points
Granite Bay -5 points
You heard it hear first. LOL.
Humm no one has caught the fact that I've missed Granite Bay, are there no GB fans out there?
My SFL ranking with Granite Bay:
#1 Folsom
#2 Del Oro
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 Woodcreek
#6 Granite Bay
#7 NU
My SFL ranking with Granite Bay:
#1 Folsom
#2 Del Oro
#3 Oak Ridge
#4 Rocklin
#5 Woodcreek
#6 Granite Bay
#7 NU
With OR's victory tonight vs DO, indeed it comes down to Folsom vs OR. Gotta go with Folsom.
Really impressive game by OR QB Baldochinno. He was the difference maker and honestly OR is the better team. I never felt they were going to lose this game and they had the lead the entire game.
Pretty surprised how hyped DO was on this board with all these returning players from a state champ team and a weaker schedule yet they seem to lack something. I mean OR going in and beating them and quite frankly controlling that game really from the start says something. Better coaching? Preparation? Not sure but its a 2 team race and Folsom is still the clear favorite.
Lets be real - DO spotted OR 21 points before things got rolling, and 7 were on a trick play after a substitution. From the 2nd quarter on it was 32-13 DO. DO is a very solid team, but is lacking in a couple key areas - their defense scheme is terrible. Had no real plan to contain OR's QB run plays. They gave up a lot of 3rd and 4th down conversions. Their offense rolls when they hand the ball off, but they get away from what works and throw deep. OR on the other hand was very patient on offense and took what was there - quick throws and QB runs. They had issues with a physical DO O-line and had trouble stopping the run. Not sure how they will stand up to the likes of Folsom. However, they played man coverage and were able to run with DO receivers, and that will be the difference maker against Folsom.
Well said RR. Could not agree more.
If not for DO giving up the first 21 points it could have easily gone DO's way as the game was only a 2point diff. Defense needs some work...
I didn't see much of the game at all. So I'm not commenting on the specifics of what went on in this game, but rather just in general terms.
Good teams don't spot their opposition 21 points. That tells me they didn't play very well in the beginning for whatever reason. Or OR just played extremely well. Or maybe a bit of both. But every play counts. And when you add them all up, you get what you get. Games don't start in the 2nd QT or after half.
To me, this is a little like saying an outcome would have been different if not for the turnovers or blown coverages. All those things factor in. And, in this case, despite outscoring the Trojans 32-13 from the 2nd QTR on -- they didn't do enough to win.
Also correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the last TD sort of garage time because OR had a 2 score lead and was essentially playing loose?
Get your point, yet you contradict yourself - if every minute at the start counts, why doesn't every minute at the end count? It was only a 2 point game with 6 min to go and the DO defense had an opportunity to get the ball back - didnt happen and OR scored with about 2 min left. DO countered in just over a minute - again a 2 point game. Certainly not garbage time (or garage time for that matter!).
Spotted OR 21 points??? Did not know you could do that in High School Football.. or do you mean OR came out ready to play and whooped DO's butt for the 1st quarter... Did t hey spot Folsom 28 points as well last week?
Game was never in doubt as the better team took an early lead and yes the last TD was garbage in the box score Thunder. OR was the better team and it was clear on the field. I still think Folsom is going to be a real stretch for anyone around here. They have a few playmakers that most teams just don't have.
"Spotted" is another way of saying "gave up 21 quick points due to bad defensive play and a poorly thought out game plan that led to an uphill climb for DO." Figured using "spotted" would be a quicker read for those who aren't overly literal, guess that wasn't the case. And as far as the garbage TD, when does garbage time start "Larry The Legend" - 5 min to go? 3 min? 1 min? You saying ORs last TD was garbage with 2 min left? Both of those teams are evenly matched talent wise, and the score indicates it, a 2 point game (34-32). OR just had better game plan on offense that trashed the DO defense scheme early but after the first quarter OR really didnt do much until last drive while DO continued to plug away. Not picking sides, just a true observation. OR knows what they are doing, very well coached team and excellent skill players on both sides, but Folsom beats OR easily.
We agree on Folsom being the top dog. They have too many "College" skilled players for local HS kids to keep up with.
As for OR, sometimes teams get conservative when they play with a big league. I never thought DO was going to win that game. The score was closer than these 2 teams are. I think that is what Thunder was referring too. Big statement by winning at DO as well. That is worth a TD or 2.
My Prediction.
Folsom 35
OR 17
As for OR, sometimes teams get conservative when they play with a big league. I never thought DO was going to win that game. The score was closer than these 2 teams are. I think that is what Thunder was referring too. Big statement by winning at DO as well. That is worth a TD or 2.
My Prediction.
Folsom 35
OR 17
I agree. Every minute counts. Don't know how I contradicted myself. I said I didn't see much of the game and didn't see any of the finish. From score tracking, DO was down 34-25 and scored a TD with like :40 seconds to go which prompted my question. It seemed like a situation where they had a 2 score lead and were playing loose to let the time run and not care if they scored with little to no time left. In short, they had the game won and it really wasn't in doubt.
In the defense of smashmouth, OR cashed in a cheap one on their first score with the fake substitution- WR sprinting off only to align toes on the sideline-back to the ball statue stance next to the cluster of reserve players on the other side of the chalk. That got the ball rolling and pressure off OR, DO responded just a little to late. I want to hear your guys take; is that a BS play, or creative by coaches?
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