So no one is talking about San Ramon Valley...

[ClayK]

It is interesting that the WCAL schools are willing to spend the money and time to keep their league together. It's a tribute to the value they place on the league.

I just don't know that starting up a similar league from scratch would work, especially given the wide disparity of success in various sports. For example, St. Joseph Notre Dame dominates the BCL in basketball, is very good in baseball and also is outstanding in cross country -- but otherwise fits just fine. But the basketball has been so out of whack it really affects everyone's experience.

It's the same problem, really, with dividing NCS into public and private. Not all private schools are the same, and in this case, Moreau and SPSV are not at the same level in basketball (and likely other sports) as BOD, and they don't want to be. So it doesn't really make any sense to have them in the same league.

 

[Streak One]

It is interesting that the WCAL schools are willing to spend the money and time to keep their league together. It's a tribute to the value they place on the league.

I just don't know that starting up a similar league from scratch would work, especially given the wide disparity of success in various sports. For example, St. Joseph Notre Dame dominates the BCL in basketball, is very good in baseball and also is outstanding in cross country -- but otherwise fits just fine. But the basketball has been so out of whack it really affects everyone's experience.

It's the same problem, really, with dividing NCS into public and private. Not all private schools are the same, and in this case, Moreau and SPSV are not at the same level in basketball (and likely other sports) as BOD, and they don't want to be. So it doesn't really make any sense to have them in the same league.

I get the point of not all privates are on the same level, but the same can be said for a San Ramon Valley/Livermore for example. There are talent disparities in every proposed league. Generally, the issue IMO isn't separating public and privates. It is ending loopholes for teams to play at a lower level than they belong at.

Competitive equity is the right path to solve that, but it has brought plenty of issues of its own

 

[1315]

FWIW, SRV and MV are NOT fully boundary publics. If a family lives in Danville/Alamo, they can petition to attend either. And yes, that can make a difference in rostering i.e. SRV swimming/MV H2O polo. Parents in that demographic could essentially choose the school which suited their single sport specialization kid as has been the case in Lamorinda for decades. A friends daughter did so.

When Dougherty opened in ‘07, MV (geographic) families could opt in to DoV, since it was essentially <50% capacity (now 3500!) Cal High kids could also, but never for athletics, unless you knew your kid would get cut at Cal/(MV. ) Cal has ALWAYS had closed boundaries due to capacity. DoV attracted super academics-which has eclipsed ALL Tri-Valley, heck all 680 except for MSJ, due to $$$ homes built there since 2007. DoV GBB actually has been strong of recent with obvious support as their Principal Kravitz had many years in that District as a FB coach. He just retired.

This is is no way meant to downplay SRV achievements in GBB, but it might be a factor. The four high schools in the SRVUSD are two boundary, two hybrid.

 

[ClayK]

One change from the distant past (when I was in high school) is that league championships have faded in importance compared to postseason success. It's nice to win a league title now, but since only one team per league can do that, it's easier, and more satisfying, for coaches and teams to focus on qualifying for Section playoffs.

And for those teams a step up from there, getting to NorCals is the mark of a really good season, not winning the league title. (And the fact that leagues change every four years removes some of the importance of winning the championship.)

And for the teams we're talking about -- BOD, Mitty, Salesian, SMS -- the goal is the Open and a state title.

In terms of these three rough categories, though private schools have a significant advantage in the last, in the other two, the difference isn't nearly that great. The private schools have to commit to athletic success to take full advantage of their situation, and many simply don't (nothing wrong with that, of course). Narrowing it down even further, then, we have a few private schools that are committed to winning in girls' basketball. We have a few that are similarly committed in other sports, but maybe not in basketball.

In short, one size doesn't come close to fitting all, so the structure of leagues can't take into account all of the variables, from school to school, and from sport to sport. What can take into account those variables is postseason division assignments, and we're moving in the right direction in that regard, though we're not quite all the way there yet.

 

[colhenrylives]

For those with very long memories, the old (very old) Catholic Athletic League was a far-flung enterprise in the two decades after World War II. As the Bay Area boomed, the CAL embraced a variety of schools at one time or another. Most of them were small. Here are most, if not all, of them:

St. Anselm's (Marin County)
St. Vincent's (Petaluma)
St. Mary's (Stockton)
St. Peter's (San Francisco)
St. Vincent's (Vallejo)
St. Elizabeth's (Oakland)
St. Joseph's (Alameda)
Bishop O'Dowd (Oakland)
St. Mary's (Berkeley)
Riordan (San Francisco)
Marin Catholic (Larkspur)
Serra (San Mateo)
Bellarmine (San Jose)
St. Francis (Mountain View)

Arguably, the old CAL's heyday can be traced back to the mid-1950's when the league included nine schools: Marin Catholic, Riordan, Serra, St. Francis, Bellarmine, St. Mary's (B), O'Dowd, St. Joseph's and St. Elizabeth's.

That arrangement didn't last long, perhaps a year or two. Marin Catholic bailed to join the Marin County Athletic League. St. Elizabeth's slowly dwindled in athletic influence and stopped playing league foes in football. St. Joseph's did not have football at all. Serra tried to join the Peninsula Athletic League in the mid-1950's and failed to gain the needed votes for inclusion. When the WCAL was created in 1967, the remnants of the CAL continued to maintain it in the East Bay until NCS officials ordered it disbanded, in spite of considerable opposition, about 30 years ago. The rest, as they say, is history.

 

[personalogic]

FWIW, SRV and MV are NOT fully boundary publics. If a family lives in Danville/Alamo, they can petition to attend either. And yes, that can make a difference in rostering i.e. SRV swimming/MV H2O polo. Parents in that demographic could essentially choose the school which suited their single sport specialization kid as has been the case in Lamorinda for decades. A friends daughter did so.

When Dougherty opened in ‘07, MV (geographic) families could opt in to DoV, since it was essentially <50% capacity (now 3500!) Cal High kids could also, but never for athletics, unless you knew your kid would get cut at Cal/(MV. ) Cal has ALWAYS had closed boundaries due to capacity. DoV attracted super academics-which has eclipsed ALL Tri-Valley, heck all 680 except for MSJ, due to $$$ homes built there since 2007. DoV GBB actually has been strong of recent with obvious support as their Principal Kravitz had many years in that District as a FB coach. He just retired.

This is is no way meant to downplay SRV achievements in GBB, but it might be a factor. The four high schools in the SRVUSD are two boundary, two hybrid.

I don't know what the technical rules are for the San Ramon Valley Unified School District, but as a practical matter in girls' basketball players go wherever they want to. In recent years, the result is that almost all the stronger players within the Dougherty Valley boundaries elect to go elsewhere. Not always to Cal, SRV, or MV either. One of the best 8G's this year is heading to Acalanes next season (or so I understand). It's not all about basketball, though. Fear of DVHS academics is a big factor.

Another trend is that there seems to be a lot less interest in heading up to Carondelet. Maybe because SRV and Cal have had a lot of success lately. Remains to be seen if Kelly can recapture that player flow.

Looks like SRV has a pretty strong pipeline that will keep it competitive for the foreseeable future. Cal is already struggling and there's not much light in the tunnel. MV could not even field a JV team this year, so ...

 

[ClayK]

Practically speaking, players can decide which school to go to in the Acalanes district (Las Lomas, Acalanes, Campolindo and Miramonte) and last I knew, Livermore was open registration so kids can choose either Granada or Livermore.

In general, for whatever reason, a motivated family can get a student into the school of their choice.

 

[OnBall8]

Cool bro

 

[ClayK]

I don't know which two girls on the Carondelet frosh you coached, but I was really surprised by how basketball smart the whole team was, considering that most of them hadn't really played much club ball.

 

[becoolpt55]

Coach Case do you ever take your kids over to Spenga….from 1 pm to 4pm I don’t think they have any classes…the kids would probably enjoy cranking up the volume and getting a good cardio workout…then some core work on the other side of the building…2 blocks away

 

[Coach_Case]

I don't know which two girls on the Carondelet frosh you coached, but I was really surprised by how basketball smart the whole team was, considering that most of them hadn't really played much club ball.

We all are excited for the future of Carondelet. Kelly’s going to build a special program there for sure. I’m proud of all of them.

 

[Coach_Case]

Coach Case do you ever take your kids over to Spenga….from 1 pm to 4pm I don’t think they have any classes…the kids you probably enjoy cranking up the volume and getting a good cardio workout…then some core work on the other side of the building

I’ll definitely look into this. I’ve had some parents asking about so fun things like this over the summer. Thanks for letting me know.

 

[ankleassassin]

Cool bro

lmaaoooooooo

 

[Coach_Case]

Cool bro

Thanks man. You’re a real class act. It’s people like you that make me want nothing to do with this board.

 

[OnBall8]

jeez.. dont be that soft.. all I said was cool bro.. no disrespect, no arguing. Be proud of what you have accomplished coach and don't let anyone bring you down let alone someone who wasnt trying....

 

[OnBall8]

and PS... I stress that you don't listen to what becool/ jazz/ cupertino dave has to say about functional fitness or training kids. Some of us have seen him in action, and others have never heard a shred of evidence to believe he knows what he is talking about.. and he doesnt know the game. The board has much better options to point you to... just my $.02

 

[Norcal_Fan]

and PS... I stress that you don't listen to what becool/ jazz/ cupertino dave has to say about functional fitness or training kids. Some of us have seen him in action, and others have never heard a shred of evidence to believe he knows what he is talking about.. and he doesnt know the game. The board has much better options to point you to... just my $.02

those idiots are the same person...also formerly known to all of us as: Citibank

 

[OnBall8]

those idiots are the same person...also formerly known to all of us as: Citibank

I knew there were more names that I couldn't remember!

 

[becoolpt55]

Citibank not me…
My comment for the Coach was about a business only a couple of blocks away in
Danville….very close to his school…has nothing to do with me…as far as what I have done and know….


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[becoolpt55]

I train athletes and also compromised special populations. I never claimed to be a coach but will call BS on anybody that needs it….

 

[fan1gbball]

DROP THE MIKE!!!

 

[OnBall8]

Well as someone who has seen you work first hand on numerous occasions... I wouldn’t let my kid in the same weight room as you

 

[becoolpt55]

Weights don’t use them 99% of the time

 

[YouShallBeKnownAsLordVader]

So this board just cares about private schools?

Best three starters graduated last year and they rolling teams.

Alright I’ll be the first to bring them up. They deserve it.

They got some really good freshman were able to contribute. They’re going to be good for awhile!