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…is bad and getting worse. I’ve watched a handful of games over these two days and a number of them (won’t say which) have been badly swung and even decided by a questionable to blatantly bad call here and there.

This is leads to the question if there is anything that can be done to improve upon this? The obvious answer is instant replay and I know many will scoff at this. But if it’s blatant during a livestream, how can it not be so during a live game where many of times teams have endzone cameras that offer an additional vantage point?
 
…is bad and getting worse. I’ve watched a handful of games over these two days and a number of them (won’t say which) have been badly swung and even decided by a questionable to blatantly bad call here and there.

This is leads to the question if there is anything that can be done to improve upon this? The obvious answer is instant replay and I know many will scoff at this. But if it’s blatant during a livestream, how can it not be so during a live game where many of times teams have endzone cameras that offer an additional vantage point?
You can sign up to use your expertise as an official. I'm sure they can use you Ed Hoculi
 
You could probably say much the same thing about far too many coaches too. There is malpractice littering the prep sports scene throughout the Golden State.
 
…is bad and getting worse. I’ve watched a handful of games over these two days and a number of them (won’t say which) have been badly swung and even decided by a questionable to blatantly bad call here and there.

This is leads to the question if there is anything that can be done to improve upon this? The obvious answer is instant replay and I know many will scoff at this. But if it’s blatant during a livestream, how can it not be so during a live game where many of times teams have endzone cameras that offer an additional vantage point?
The issue is there is a shortage of Ref’s out there and there and not many young people getting into it….

It’s tough and I agree with you, so many bad calls but what can you do…. Replay would be a good idea, but that doesn’t help on the Ridiculous Calls and Non calls for penalties and the Ref’s botching the rules….

But there guys are older and the game is moving too fast, they just can’t see everything…. That’s why I just try to let it all go… But if I am a PITT fan today, I am pissed!….

But yes, replay would be great, they use in in GA but only on televised games….
 
The issue is there is a shortage of Ref’s out there and there and not many young people getting into it….

It’s tough and I agree with you, so many bad calls but what can you do…. Replay would be a good idea, but that doesn’t help on the Ridiculous Calls and Non calls for penalties and the Ref’s botching the rules….

But there guys are older and the game is moving too fast, they just can’t see everything…. That’s why I just try to let it all go… But if I am a PITT fan today, I am pissed!….

But yes, replay would be great, they use in in GA but only on televised games….

Saint Francis fans should be pissed too. Just saying
 
Okay, since someone else brought it up. Last night the worst reffing in any game I have seen. From the play a whistle Oakdale players stopped because of it. They then completed pass for first down. They let play stand? In the second half it felt like they were making makeup calls? First half it was like Oakdale was playing the Kansas City!
 


KIENAN O'DOHERTY
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November 15, 2024
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Across the prep sports landscape this fall, there has been a plethora of scheduling changes for local high school teams.
In football alone, the long-standing tradition of “Friday Night Lights” has been expanded to include more games on Saturdays — and even some on Thursdays.

Casa Grande High School’s varsity team had to play a league game against Tamalpais on a Thursday night — Tam’s second Thursday night game of the season.
The reason? There aren’t enough game officials to staff a full slate of Friday night games.
The North Bay Officials Organization, which oversees the referees and other game officials in the region, has 66 names on its roster — and three are currently on the injured list. Out of the 63 who remain, seven are in their first year, 18 have less than three years of experience and 45 have more than three years. This year, the total number of officials who can work games is down 10%.
“If you look at the National Association of Sports Officials, you’ll find that sportsmanship is at an all-time low,” said Spencer Crum, the head of the North Bay officials group who is in his 27th year working high school games.
NBOO members cover a wide area, officiating at games in Sonoma, Marin and Napa counties as well as in Middletown and Ukiah. That’s more than 30 high schools.
It’s not a glamorous job.
“A lot of refs are real hesitant to get into it due to the negative reactions of the crowd and coaches,” Crum said. “There’s a real hesitancy to get involved right now, and it’s really hard to keep them once they do get in because they get yelled at so much. As much as we enjoy it, there are times when the crowds, the kids and the coaches become overly boisterous.”
Members of the NBOO group have had their fair share of encounters with hostile coaches and crowds, Crum said — from a coach squirting an official in the face with a water bottle to a referee crew being followed to their locker room by a coach shouting profanities at them.

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Officials get $100 for a varsity game and $59 for a JV contest.

Prior to each game, the officials will give evaluation cards to the coaches of both teams. They can be mailed back to the NBOO anonymously after the game, but Crum said only about 25% are returned.
And this fall’s league realignment for the largest football-playing schools that created the four-tier Redwood Empire Conference led to more Friday night games — a new wrinkle that is proving extremely difficult for Crum’s group to cover.
“In the past, we’ve had about 11 games on a Friday night,” Crum said. “This year for some reason we have upward of 15 requests on a Friday night. We have more teams with lights than ever before, a lot of teams with single games being requested, and it’s been really hard for us to cover.”
And with the first round of the North Coast Section playoffs this weekend, eight games took place Friday night and another four are set for Saturday.
So why become an official? Crum has an answer.
“It’s super fun to be a part of, it’s a great thing to do on Friday nights — and a good way to give back to the community,” he said.
Trying to keep up with the demand, the NBOO is always looking for new help. Anyone interested can sign up at nbofficials.org.
You can reach Staff Writer Kienan O’Doherty at 415-887-8650 or kienan.odoherty@pressdemocrat.com. On X (Twitter) @kodoherty22.
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Thanks for sharing! High school football officials should be compensated $300 per night to reflect the responsibility, expertise, training and time required. This rate would make officiating an attractive and sustainable 1099 side gig. This approach could help address the shortage of qualified officials and improve the quality of games. School districts and CIF could collaborate to cover these costs through budgets, grants, and sponsorships. This approach would ensure fairness, sustainable funding and consistency across schools.

As much as I loved occasional banter with the officials--parents, fans, coaches, or players who abuse
officials should be immediately removed from the event.
 
First off, if you want to complain about the officials, become one or quit whining. Same thing goes for those in the stands bitching about coaches...join a staff and do your part!

Second, yes the officials are under paid, pay them fair monies.

Third, raise the stipend for coaches. 2500 for a season of football is a joke. barely covers the extra gas money. Most have zero clue as to how many hours are put in.....comes to about 5 cents an hour.....

Be a part of the solution and not the problem!
 
Attach a camera to a device connected to each official’s head. Replays can only come from their camera as the view of what the official sees is the only place calls are made. Not from some cameras with angles an official doesn’t have. Then based on what the official sees calls can only be reversed if the official saw something but didn’t call it. It would make a good documentary if this was done.
All the extra money and refs still won’t change what they see.
 
Okay, since someone else brought it up. Last night the worst reffing in any game I have seen. From the play a whistle Oakdale players stopped because of it. They then completed pass for first down. They let play stand? In the second half it felt like they were making makeup calls? First half it was like Oakdale was playing the Kansas City!
Easy Buddy, they were terrible both ways. That play your talking about went for 4 yards, not a first down. That was the 5th time this season an official blew a RPO by Destiny early because they didnt know where the ball was.

How about the 4th down measurement on the Oakdale 4 yard line when DCA was going for the lead and they made contact with the ball with the stick making it roll away. Did they set it back in the same spot? Who knows, but DCA ended up a 1/4 inch short when it looked like they had the 1st down.

Oakdale ran the ball 50+ times and not one holding call? Seems legit.
 
Easy Buddy, they were terrible both ways. That play your talking about went for 4 yards, not a first down. That was the 5th time this season an official blew a RPO by Destiny early because they didnt know where the ball was.

How about the 4th down measurement on the Oakdale 4 yard line when DCA was going for the lead and they made contact with the ball with the stick making it roll away. Did they set it back in the same spot? Who knows, but DCA ended up a 1/4 inch short when it looked like they had the 1st down.

Oakdale ran the ball 50+ times and not one holding call? Seems legit.
Did you not read my while post? I said it went both ways? Bottom line was I wrong on that call? No! Come on your defensive line couldn't handle a 5'5" 150 pound linemen ? Maybe the fact that your defense keyed on one player? And another player ran for 235 yards. But the other player ran for 210. In the playoffs if you can't stop the run? Sad thing is here we're are arguing overshadowing a GOOD FUN game to watch, in the rain
My whole complaint is that was a blown call. And on a blown call end a season? It didn't happen . But? Put Oakdale on your regular season schedule next year. I would drive up to Sacramento to watch those 2 teams play again! Oakdale whole backfield coming back next year. And that 150 pound lineman too. Moses my favorite player on the team! How about that onside kick? The fake punt? There were some great plays by both teams. And trust me I walked out with Oakdale fans. We knew we were LUCKY to get that win!
 
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