The Officiating…

[LecheDeMiPalo]

…is bad and getting worse. I’ve watched a handful of games over these two days and a number of them (won’t say which) have been badly swung and even decided by a questionable to blatantly bad call here and there.

This is leads to the question if there is anything that can be done to improve upon this? The obvious answer is instant replay and I know many will scoff at this. But if it’s blatant during a livestream, how can it not be so during a live game where many of times teams have endzone cameras that offer an additional vantage point?

 

[ankleassassin]

…is bad and getting worse. I’ve watched a handful of games over these two days and a number of them (won’t say which) have been badly swung and even decided by a questionable to blatantly bad call here and there.

This is leads to the question if there is anything that can be done to improve upon this? The obvious answer is instant replay and I know many will scoff at this. But if it’s blatant during a livestream, how can it not be so during a live game where many of times teams have endzone cameras that offer an additional vantage point?

You can sign up to use your expertise as an official. I'm sure they can use you Ed Hoculi

 

[LecheDeMiPalo]

You can sign up to use your expertise as an official. I'm sure they can use you Ed Hoculi

I’m only one man. We need a better solution

 

[ankleassassin]

I’m only one man. We need a better solution

Oh, there are tons of others on here. Loll

 

[ankleassassin]

I’m only one man. We need a better solution

But really reply wouldn't happen. That cost money. Teachers would rather they be paid more than a tv reply for a football game

 

[colhenrylives]

You could probably say much the same thing about far too many coaches too. There is malpractice littering the prep sports scene throughout the Golden State.

 

[THEOC89]

…is bad and getting worse. I’ve watched a handful of games over these two days and a number of them (won’t say which) have been badly swung and even decided by a questionable to blatantly bad call here and there.

This is leads to the question if there is anything that can be done to improve upon this? The obvious answer is instant replay and I know many will scoff at this. But if it’s blatant during a livestream, how can it not be so during a live game where many of times teams have endzone cameras that offer an additional vantage point?

The issue is there is a shortage of Ref’s out there and there and not many young people getting into it….

It’s tough and I agree with you, so many bad calls but what can you do…. Replay would be a good idea, but that doesn’t help on the Ridiculous Calls and Non calls for penalties and the Ref’s botching the rules….

But there guys are older and the game is moving too fast, they just can’t see everything…. That’s why I just try to let it all go… But if I am a PITT fan today, I am pissed!….

But yes, replay would be great, they use in in GA but only on televised games….

 

[ChewpaMiverga]

The issue is there is a shortage of Ref’s out there and there and not many young people getting into it….

It’s tough and I agree with you, so many bad calls but what can you do…. Replay would be a good idea, but that doesn’t help on the Ridiculous Calls and Non calls for penalties and the Ref’s botching the rules….

But there guys are older and the game is moving too fast, they just can’t see everything…. That’s why I just try to let it all go… But if I am a PITT fan today, I am pissed!….

But yes, replay would be great, they use in in GA but only on televised games….

Saint Francis fans should be pissed too. Just saying

 

[Rocknrolus 95361]

Okay, since someone else brought it up. Last night the worst reffing in any game I have seen. From the play a whistle Oakdale players stopped because of it. They then completed pass for first down. They let play stand? In the second half it felt like they were making makeup calls? First half it was like Oakdale was playing the Kansas City!

 

[BigMann08]

How much money do refs make per game?

 

[THEOC89]

How much money do refs make per game?

Somewhere around $100 is what I have been told…. It’s not much….

 

[BigMann08]

A premium should be put on

Somewhere around $100 is what I have been told…. It’s not much….

wow sounds like a premium should be placed on officiating. They are vital to the game!

 

[bella123]

Local football officials looking for more help as crowd abuse keeps some away

It’s not a glamorous job, but referees keep games going each week for players, parents and coaches.

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KIENAN O'DOHERTY
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT
November 15, 2024
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Across the prep sports landscape this fall, there has been a plethora of scheduling changes for local high school teams.
In football alone, the long-standing tradition of “Friday Night Lights” has been expanded to include more games on Saturdays — and even some on Thursdays.

Casa Grande High School’s varsity team had to play a league game against Tamalpais on a Thursday night — Tam’s second Thursday night game of the season.
The reason? There aren’t enough game officials to staff a full slate of Friday night games.
The North Bay Officials Organization, which oversees the referees and other game officials in the region, has 66 names on its roster — and three are currently on the injured list. Out of the 63 who remain, seven are in their first year, 18 have less than three years of experience and 45 have more than three years. This year, the total number of officials who can work games is down 10%.
“If you look at the National Association of Sports Officials, you’ll find that sportsmanship is at an all-time low,” said Spencer Crum, the head of the North Bay officials group who is in his 27th year working high school games.
NBOO members cover a wide area, officiating at games in Sonoma, Marin and Napa counties as well as in Middletown and Ukiah. That’s more than 30 high schools.
It’s not a glamorous job.
“A lot of refs are real hesitant to get into it due to the negative reactions of the crowd and coaches,” Crum said. “There’s a real hesitancy to get involved right now, and it’s really hard to keep them once they do get in because they get yelled at so much. As much as we enjoy it, there are times when the crowds, the kids and the coaches become overly boisterous.”
Members of the NBOO group have had their fair share of encounters with hostile coaches and crowds, Crum said — from a coach squirting an official in the face with a water bottle to a referee crew being followed to their locker room by a coach shouting profanities at them.

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Officials get $100 for a varsity game and $59 for a JV contest.

Prior to each game, the officials will give evaluation cards to the coaches of both teams. They can be mailed back to the NBOO anonymously after the game, but Crum said only about 25% are returned.
And this fall’s league realignment for the largest football-playing schools that created the four-tier Redwood Empire Conference led to more Friday night games — a new wrinkle that is proving extremely difficult for Crum’s group to cover.
“In the past, we’ve had about 11 games on a Friday night,” Crum said. “This year for some reason we have upward of 15 requests on a Friday night. We have more teams with lights than ever before, a lot of teams with single games being requested, and it’s been really hard for us to cover.”
And with the first round of the North Coast Section playoffs this weekend, eight games took place Friday night and another four are set for Saturday.
So why become an official? Crum has an answer.
“It’s super fun to be a part of, it’s a great thing to do on Friday nights — and a good way to give back to the community,” he said.
Trying to keep up with the demand, the NBOO is always looking for new help. Anyone interested can sign up at nbofficials.org.
You can reach Staff Writer Kienan O’Doherty at 415-887-8650 or kienan.odoherty@pressdemocrat.com. On X (Twitter) @kodoherty22.
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[BigMann08]

Local football officials looking for more help as crowd abuse keeps some away

It’s not a glamorous job, but referees keep games going each week for players, parents and coaches.

www.pressdemocrat.com

KIENAN O'DOHERTY
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT
November 15, 2024
2 minute read
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Across the prep sports landscape this fall, there has been a plethora of scheduling changes for local high school teams.
In football alone, the long-standing tradition of “Friday Night Lights” has been expanded to include more games on Saturdays — and even some on Thursdays.

Casa Grande High School’s varsity team had to play a league game against Tamalpais on a Thursday night — Tam’s second Thursday night game of the season.
The reason? There aren’t enough game officials to staff a full slate of Friday night games.
The North Bay Officials Organization, which oversees the referees and other game officials in the region, has 66 names on its roster — and three are currently on the injured list. Out of the 63 who remain, seven are in their first year, 18 have less than three years of experience and 45 have more than three years. This year, the total number of officials who can work games is down 10%.
“If you look at the National Association of Sports Officials, you’ll find that sportsmanship is at an all-time low,” said Spencer Crum, the head of the North Bay officials group who is in his 27th year working high school games.
NBOO members cover a wide area, officiating at games in Sonoma, Marin and Napa counties as well as in Middletown and Ukiah. That’s more than 30 high schools.
It’s not a glamorous job.
“A lot of refs are real hesitant to get into it due to the negative reactions of the crowd and coaches,” Crum said. “There’s a real hesitancy to get involved right now, and it’s really hard to keep them once they do get in because they get yelled at so much. As much as we enjoy it, there are times when the crowds, the kids and the coaches become overly boisterous.”
Members of the NBOO group have had their fair share of encounters with hostile coaches and crowds, Crum said — from a coach squirting an official in the face with a water bottle to a referee crew being followed to their locker room by a coach shouting profanities at them.

RELATED STORIES​

Football: Expect heavyweight battle when Casa Grande, Windsor meet to open playoffs​

Cardinal Newman-Marin Catholic football rematch headlines 1st round of playoffs​

Commentary: How parents are driving coaches, referees from youth sports​

Officials get $100 for a varsity game and $59 for a JV contest.

Prior to each game, the officials will give evaluation cards to the coaches of both teams. They can be mailed back to the NBOO anonymously after the game, but Crum said only about 25% are returned.
And this fall’s league realignment for the largest football-playing schools that created the four-tier Redwood Empire Conference led to more Friday night games — a new wrinkle that is proving extremely difficult for Crum’s group to cover.
“In the past, we’ve had about 11 games on a Friday night,” Crum said. “This year for some reason we have upward of 15 requests on a Friday night. We have more teams with lights than ever before, a lot of teams with single games being requested, and it’s been really hard for us to cover.”
And with the first round of the North Coast Section playoffs this weekend, eight games took place Friday night and another four are set for Saturday.
So why become an official? Crum has an answer.
“It’s super fun to be a part of, it’s a great thing to do on Friday nights — and a good way to give back to the community,” he said.
Trying to keep up with the demand, the NBOO is always looking for new help. Anyone interested can sign up at nbofficials.org.
You can reach Staff Writer Kienan O’Doherty at 415-887-8650 or kienan.odoherty@pressdemocrat.com. On X (Twitter) @kodoherty22.
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Thanks for sharing! High school football officials should be compensated $300 per night to reflect the responsibility, expertise, training and time required. This rate would make officiating an attractive and sustainable 1099 side gig. This approach could help address the shortage of qualified officials and improve the quality of games. School districts and CIF could collaborate to cover these costs through budgets, grants, and sponsorships. This approach would ensure fairness, sustainable funding and consistency across schools.

As much as I loved occasional banter with the officials--parents, fans, coaches, or players who abuse
officials should be immediately removed from the event.

 

[WWHS44]

First off, if you want to complain about the officials, become one or quit whining. Same thing goes for those in the stands bitching about coaches...join a staff and do your part!

Second, yes the officials are under paid, pay them fair monies.

Third, raise the stipend for coaches. 2500 for a season of football is a joke. barely covers the extra gas money. Most have zero clue as to how many hours are put in.....comes to about 5 cents an hour.....

Be a part of the solution and not the problem!