Top 5 Coaches in My Opinion
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Kelly King has been doing it for years at Milpitas. He is basically the lone ranger over there too! Very little (if any) on campus help. He is a great dude who lets his kids play. He knows the game and coaches to his athletes strengths. He is like Pete Carroll in the sense that he remembers to let the kids have fun, but still has the discipline needed to win football games. I played for him back in the day and absolutely loved the experience. Coach King IS Milpitas football!
CT4L you really aren't that dumb i hope. You've been posting lately about how good coach Cat is. Then you put a list of your top 10 and he isn't included. I ask you why. You say I didn't put him in anything because I didn't feel it was necessary at this time. Is that okay with you sir?
HUH what part of that confuses you
HUH what part of that confuses you
King is doing it the right way. You can win championships and have fun at the same damn time. That goes for the coach and his players. Been preaching this for years. Why coach if you don't enjoy the kids, the passion and the action. Some coaches need to loosen up and stop acting like a Belichick clone. Never understood why a coach always look like he's constipated even when he wins the Super Bowl. WTF!!!
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Never been dumb so maybe you should chose your words a little wiser. I run a very successful self-made business so the word dumb doesn't relate to CT4L. That sound so good I'm going to say it again, self-made!!! So let's get that straight asap. Now, I didn't put coach Cat in the mix because I didn't want to seem bias as I said in my original post. Did you read my original post? I've talked up other coaches over the years on this board that I didn't put in my top 10 as well. Such as Mott of Napa, Papadopoulos of Vacaville, Benzel of Rocklin and QB Guru Floyd Burnsed of Miramonte and so on and so on. Hope that help you bro. If not there's nothing I can do for ya.
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CT4L is "self made" lol think about that statement for a moment.
Never said you WERE dumb , i said i hope you werent that dumb.
Do me a favor,go back and begin reading from your ORIGINAL POST.Where do you talk about bias and coach Cat. You keep replying and editing so much i think your judgement is a little clouded.
Do me a favor,go back and begin reading from your ORIGINAL POST.Where do you talk about bias and coach Cat. You keep replying and editing so much i think your judgement is a little clouded.
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http://www.artofmanliness.com/2008/12/28/self-made-men/
Yep Indianpride45, the CT4L is a very successful self-made entrepreneur/businessman lol. Think about that for a moment.
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I never said anything about Cattolico. What are you talking about? I talked about 20 other coaches and never mentioned Coach Cat once. You got me all messed up in the game bro. But carry on......
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I was thinking you should take your own advice H.E.A.T.. You're putting too much effort into the obvious. You seem to be a smart enough guy to figure this out for yourself. It's not rocket science young fella. Just sayin.....
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We already know he doesn't make sense. It certainly didn't take this thread to prove that. Please tell us all about your thriving business that makes you a very successful entrepreneur?
No, I'll let you do that for me H.E.A.T.. You have better spelling and punctuation skills. I'm totally into delegating.
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How's things going Mr. Sour Grapes. I guess you still butt sore from that last whoop'n I gave you months ago. Why don't you tell us about your 9-5 gig where you're told what to do by your "boss" lol.
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Indianpride: Let's first keep in clean, ball washer was way out of line. If you have a stone to grind with Murphy then step up and deal with it face to face. He can flat out coach, his team is giving up less then 4 points a game over there last 4. Say what you want about me or him and you are able to voice your opinion and let's just say we agree to disagree.
What game will you be at this Friday night?
Sorry if the term ball washer hurt your feelings just being sarcastic. Rest of my statement I stand by. As for flat out coach? Debatable I will say this pointing out points his teams are giving up over last 4 games isn't proof of anything. 1. He is on record as stating he has nothing to do with defensive side of the ball your giving basically a defensive stat. 2. They haven't played anybody that is in the caliber they should be playing. In other words want to be looked at as a quality program why is your preseason filled with half ass teams? They book 1 CA team with a solid history and that's Helix. Helix however had a new coach so who new what they would be and are 2-2 currently. Booking a 3 win canyon springs (2015 record) team is frankly embarrassing for a top CA program. And they fact that Canyon was ranked top 30 in NV after winning 3 tells us what NV football is all about. (Minus BG) Look I call it as I see it. Give me a CVCHS signature win the last 5 years? In other words yeah they beat the schools they should beat but where is that next step win? Remember they have been playing down in D2 picking on schools and teams doing it with local kids all the while bringing in talent from every city around. And when they have finally stepped up in compitition they have lost, and usually have been out coached.
Surprised Coach Mo out at Marin Catholic didn't make the top 10 list for privates, not mentioned once in 50+ responses lol
I must agree, that all of these coaches are great coaches. However, it is a shame that Mike Alberghini of Grant is not mentioned on this list. Both Folsom and Del Oro refused to play Grant in early season games, the last two seasons. Grant is also the first State Champion (Open 2008) from this area, as well as the holder of seven (7) C.I.F. Section Titles. The most recent, came with a win over St. Mary's in the 2014 Section Title game. To add to Alberghini's resume, he is also the winningest coach in Section history. Do I need to mention the number of Div. 1 scholarship football recipients, with many playing in the NFL as we speak? Also consider that.... Del Oro is 1 for 3 in State Championship games. I'm glad that an opinion is only an opinion, because one cannot argue with Alberghini's success and records. We will find out more about Central Catholic, if they move up to the D-2 level this upcoming playoff season.
Also.......Mike Alberghini lead teams have made the playoffs for 25+ straight seasons. No other team in Section history has ever achieved such an accomplishment. Did I also forget to mention that he is the only coach in C.I.F. State history to win Section Titles in both Baseball and Football?
I went by the body of work and I try to be as unbiased and genuine as I can in regards to this subject. Now let's take a look at the body of work of these coaches.
Kris Richardson=5 section championships and 2 state titles
Casey Taylor=5 section championships and 1 state title
Matt Sweeney=4 section championships
Tim Murphy=4 section championships
Trent Merzon=3 section championships
Randy Blankenship=5 section championships
Kelly King=3 section championships
Kevin Macy=3 section championships
Mike Alberghini=7 section championships and 1 state title
Chris Nixon=0 section championships as a HC but he's won multiple section championships as Ed Lombardi's OC. Also, had it not been for Folsom Nixon would have 2 section championships of his own. And he's on a roll this year.
*Now we all know Cattolico is a top notch coach with 2 section titles under his belt but he's been out of the game for a few years. To be totally honest, I think he can out coach everyone on that list. The only top 10 coach on my list that (may) make him flinch is Richardson of Folsom and he's beaten him 3 of 7 times. Two of those wins were the first two years the teams met and I'm not sure if Richardson would make Cat flinch. That being said, I want to give the young "Cat" time to build his Sheldon program into a powerhouse before I put him in my top 5. Since he's not in my top five I decided to wait, hope that's okay with the H.E.A.T.
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Actually, Coach AL is #2 behind Mark Loureiro of Escalon.
But I fully agree with your point about him being overlooked. While Grant Union has certainly been fortunate with their abundance of talent, there are many other challenges that face Coach AL that other coaches might not have such an easy time with. He's done a tremendous job there. His predecessor, Bob Vukajlovich, was also a very good and successful coach, but the Pacers never reached the same heights under his leadership, despite the talent, as they have with Coach AL.
To me, this is a very underrated accomplishment -- especially for a public school program. To not have a season here and there where you just don't have it or aren't able to put it together for some reason is crazy.
In recent years with the expansion of the playoff pools, it's not such a big deal. But a good portion of Coach AL's coaching career came during a time when only the top 2 teams in league made the postseason.
For example, in 1996 the Pacers ended the regular season in a 3-way tie with Nevada Union and Del Campo for the CAL title. But only 2 teams could advance to the postseason (the CAL didn't get 3 that season). NU lost the coinflip and had to sit at home despite a 9-1 record with the lone loss coming by 1 point on a last second TD.
While the Pacers kept their streak alive in that instance via a coinflip, the fact that they never suffered any average or losing seasons is remarkable. Injuries. Grades. Down year in talent. Lots of things can happen to derail a season. But it hasn't happened, with the lone exception of a 5-5 regular season in 2012 that turned into 5-6 with a 1st round playoff loss.
Criteria for choosing should be the same at every level, otherwise you get too many personal opinions involved. It should make thinks pretty simple. In addition to the general wins, how many times have they been in the big games or won them (Section, Regional, State). Obviously if they have been in these games, they face quality opponent in them. You can still be a good coach and not be in the top 5, but something has to separate them from one another.
As mentioned, minimum of 50 wins to qualify.
Overall winning percentage
Overall record
Number of League titles
Number of Section Titles or runner up
Number of Regional Titles or runner up
Number of State Title or runner up
As mentioned, minimum of 50 wins to qualify.
Overall winning percentage
Overall record
Number of League titles
Number of Section Titles or runner up
Number of Regional Titles or runner up
Number of State Title or runner up
Coach Cat is top 5 imo, I had a son that played against him and 1 that now plays for him and that guy can coach his tail off. He has won 2 championships with 2 different teams from 2 different sections and has his current team looking good right now. I know its early and they still have some games to play but they have equaled their win total of the last 3 years in the first 4 games this season. He is great at play calling, holds his kids accountable, inspires them to be great and is great in having his teams prepare for the game. I have been around coaching for the last 15 years and I know what great coaching looks like and he is in that group. Sheldon has basically the same team last year and it is just night and day from last year. That is no knock on staff from last year from he has just turned the mindset of Sheldon football. We were usely known as a basketball,softball and track school put coach Cat now changing that.
ThunderRam....you are correct with the 5-5 record and the coin flip! However, you failed to mention Del Oro somehow making it in last season (with their record) and happened to win State. You bring up the coin flip in '96, but the league was in a 3 way tie. What about the great undefeated '06 team that signed 6 Div.1 scholarships? DLS got the "vote" over them, and lost in State. Bottom line is this, Alberghini not even being mentioned in the Top 5 is disrespectful !!!!! Just in case anyone failed to notice, Grant in enrollment is actually a Div.3 school, yet winning championships at the Div.1 and Div.2 levels.
And why is the list capped at 5? Folks will argue a Top 25 teams list, but gotta be a short list when it comes individuals to make it worthy, eh? What makes a good coach, having great players and not screwing it up? Having small, unathletic class and posting a winning record? Be real -- there are a tremendous number of very good, quality coaches running great programs today. Why argue who belongs in a top 5? Mention them all -- or is there a trophy at stake?
Good to see a Pacer join the fray. That being said, how do you think coach Al would do with this years Sheldon team. And when I look at the rosters of both Sheldon and Grant I see a huge difference in talent. More talent matters which has been a built in advantage for Grant for some years.
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