Valley Christian beats St. Ignatius 58-49 in the regular season finale

[Streak One]

The Warriors have ended the regular season with four straight wins.

It will be interesting how the CCS seeds the Open after Mitty

Pinewood (one loss to SI, beat St. Francis, O'Dowd, Moreau, SRV)
Valley Christian (split with SI and St. Francis, beat Vanden, Newman, lost to Moreau, Salesian)
St. Ignatius (split with VC, swept St. Francis, lost to Carondelet x2, St. Mary's, Antelope)

 

[OnBall8]

Again it goes back to the covid consideration.. do you look as last nights loss differently because SI was not at full strength? They still ended up ahead of VC in the WCAL standings I believe.

1. Mitty
2. SI
3. PW
4. VC

Also, I thought I saw a late season PW/C-let matchup on the schedule earlier in the year but its not on Maxpreps anymore. Am I thinking of another team or was this cancelled?

 

[LBJ6]

1. Mitty
2. Pinewood
3. SI
4. VC

 

[TheHillZ]

Though I think it's largely an academic exercise, I'd give the nod for #2 to PW. Its loss to SI was way back in the third game of the year. They've won 17 straight since.

 

[OnBall8]

Though I think it's largely an academic exercise, I'd give the nod for #2 to PW. Its loss to SI was way back in the third game of the year. They've won 17 straight since.

Playing devils advocate here because I think your point is very valid... without december, what is pinewood's signature win(s)? Monte Vista, a 9 loss team, becomes their best win on paper.. does that merit enough for the 2 seed?

In that scenario, the split actually helps SI and VC giving them both a quality win, adding that SI swept SF, and both play in a much tougher league. That argument could actually end up hurting PW.

Then do you consider the fact that SI went on the road to C-let and SMS (neutral) and give them credit for scheduling tough, or is it a check against them for losing both?

Again just playing devils advocate for the sake of argument, I actually think that PW will likely end up as thee 2 seed.

 

[letsski]

My question is who fills out the rest of the Open bracket? If you fill with publics, then Hillsdale, Paly, Evergreen Valley and Los Gatos would be in the mix. If you add another private, then Cathedral and maybe Menlo would be considered.

 

[bayareagbballfan]

Though I think it's largely an academic exercise, I'd give the nod for #2 to PW. Its loss to SI was way back in the third game of the year. They've won 17 straight since.

I think arguments can be made either way for the #2 and #3 seed. It's going to be a very close game and it depends on who is hot that game. if someone catch fire, it won't be that close. both teams have players that can catch fire and can be hard to stop. The #2 seed is going to have a nice home court advantage that might tilt it if no one is particularly hot and becomes unstoppable.

 

[TheHillZ]

Playing devils advocate here because I think your point is very valid... without december, what is pinewood's signature win(s)? Monte Vista, a 9 loss team, becomes their best win on paper.. does that merit enough for the 2 seed?

In that scenario, the split actually helps SI and VC giving them both a quality win, adding that SI swept SF, and both play in a much tougher league. That argument could actually end up hurting PW.

Then do you consider the fact that SI went on the road to C-let and SMS (neutral) and give them credit for scheduling tough, or is it a check against them for losing both?

Again just playing devils advocate for the sake of argument, I actually think that PW will likely end up as thee 2 seed.

No doubt SI's SOS is better. PW can't control for the fact that it was a down year for the WBAL. It did schedule and beat O'Dowd (who is in NCS Open) as well as a solid San Leandro (20-5) team, plus the M&M Catholics of Marin and Moreau. And they are the defending champ!

I thought I read Doc saying somewhere recently that he expected to be #3, so I don't think there will be an uproar if that happens.

 

[observer22]

No doubt SI's SOS is better. PW can't control for the fact that it was a down year for the WBAL. It did schedule and beat O'Dowd (who is in NCS Open) as well as a solid San Leandro (20-5) team, plus the M&M Catholics of Marin and Moreau. And they are the defending champ!

I thought I read Doc saying somewhere recently that he expected to be #3, so I don't think there will be an uproar if that happens.

Pinewood also beat SRV at home 59-32. Even though it was in December and SRV was without a starter, that’s a quality win.

 

[OnBall8]

Pinewood also beat SRV at home 59-32. Even though it was in December and SRV was without a starter, that’s a quality win.

Yea but our point was if you don't use the SI/PW head-to-head from december, then you can't also use the SRV win.

And they are the defending champ!

This right here could be a very underrated point. 6 straight open finals on top of that. They could be the 2 seed solely based on that!

 

[bayareagbballfan]

No doubt SI's SOS is better. PW can't control for the fact that it was a down year for the WBAL. It did schedule and beat O'Dowd (who is in NCS Open) as well as a solid San Leandro (20-5) team, plus the M&M Catholics of Marin and Moreau. And they are the defending champ!

I thought I read Doc saying somewhere recently that he expected to be #3, so I don't think there will be an uproar if that happens.

Pinewood could be the #2 seed for sure in CCS as they are competitive with SI. But Pinewood really should have scheduled tougher games regardless of WBAL. They didn't play in the WCJ and in the Clet showcase, they didn't play SMS, Mitty, Clet, Folsom, or have a rematch with SI. Any of those 5 teams would have given them more legitimacy in Norcal than say a "solid San Leandro" or BOD or MC/MC teams. I also did see they were suppose to play Clet but I guess something happened.

 

[SouthBayHoopFan]

CCS should also take into consideration that SI has a legitimate gym, and PW does not.

 

[OnBall8]

All valid points.. we will see where the CCS committee stands tomorrow I guess. Or at least we will be able to speculate what they valued while having the right answers haha

 

[straightline50]

Though I think it's largely an academic exercise, I'd give the nod for #2 to PW. Its loss to SI was way back in the third game of the year. They've won 17 straight since.

PW will be the 2. I also saw them on the schedule for Salesian. Imagine COVID played a part in a lot of schedules

 

[bayareagbballfan]

I think arguments can be made either way for the #2 and #3 seed. It's going to be a very close game and it depends on who is hot that game. if someone catch fire, it won't be that close. both teams have players that can catch fire and can be hard to stop. The #2 seed is going to have a nice home court advantage that might tilt it if no one is particularly hot and becomes unstoppable.

I watched the December game on NFHS network just to preview this Wednesday's match up. SI looked like the better team and they beat them without 6'1" Claire Untalan. I think Pinewood will have a tough time against SI's front line.