Video of why CC QB ejected. Total bs for an official to make this call.

[shcguy92]

Dude you need to take your soccer mom attitude to a different forum this one is dedicated to football. There is nothing illegal about “head contact” on this play! There is no targeting, no defenseless player, nothing. The head contact is legal period! It the punch/push that is the question. It’s not complex at all.

Unfortunately in this age of concussions, helmet head to head is not legal anymore at the high school level of football. So much so that what was legal just two seasons ago is no longer legal in the high school level of football.

Pount of emphasis t hg e.last two years at least in the CCS and I would imagine e everywhere else is helmet to helmet and leading with the head to cut down on neck injuries and concussions.

So you may think it is legal but like I said rules have changed a lot in the last two years.

BTW, looking at it again, I can see where the QBs motion at then was perceived as a punch by the official and not a shove off. This is what cause the ejection. After the third head butt attempt it looks as if his arm took a swing at the player. As stated before I spoke to two officials on the crew and the reason was a punch is why he was ejected.

 

[Truthhertz]

Pount of emphasis t hg e.last two years at least in the CCS and I would imagine e everywhere else is helmet to helmet and leading with the head to cut down on neck injuries and concussions.

Nobody is arguing rule changes in fact I acknowledged them. That doesn’t change the fact there is nothing in this play that breaks any rules other than the punching action. If Those were head butt attempts they were pathetic, and if they were than he should have been kicked out for being so poor at attempting them.

 

[shcguy92]

Nobody is arguing rule changes in fact I acknowledged them. That doesn’t change the fact there is nothing in this play that breaks any rules other than the punching action. If Those were head butt attempts they were pathetic, and if they were than he should have been kicked out for being so poor at attempting them.

Some guy on here was arguing the headbutts were legal in high school football and twhat the QB was doing was a legal football play.

From what I was told apparently and it is not clear in the video but after head butt #3 the QB extended an arm with a fist which the refs deemed a punch. Some are calling it a shove here but if the ref deemed it a punch and as many have said a pathetic punch well then he was tossed.

What I did not see and no one has pointed out was there a personal foul called on this play? If there was an unsportsmanlike foul and it was the QB second one in the game, then he gets tossed as well. Since no.one mentioned that, I guess that is a moot point.

 

[NorCalSportsFan]

Borderline but the young man threw a punch at the other players head. At least 15 yards should have been assessed in my opinion and not knowing what was going on before could have been warranted. That was a cheap shot.

 

[Truthhertz]

Some guy on here was arguing the headbutts were legal in high school football and twhat the QB was doing was a legal football play.

I haven’t seen anybody argue that head butts were legal here. Most people just see what was happening as head butts let alone illegal head contact. The only person who does seems to be you.

 

[shcguy92]

I haven’t seen anybody argue that head butts were legal here. Most people just see what was happening as head butts let alone illegal head contact. The only person who does seems to be you.

Monkeyade arguing helmet to helmet being legal is what I am referring to. In this case they seem to go hand in hand and he seems to be justifying helmet to helmet as legal when recently NFHS made helmet to helmet an illegal play.

 

[ThunderRam]

I just reviewed this play and some of the ones preceding it.

I'm in agreement with those that believe it was an over-reaction by the official. I'm not even sure it warranted an ejection in a regular season game, let alone a section final. I mean, if they're going to eject players for what happened between #22 and #3, they could also eject half a dozen other players throughout the game. That kinda thing happens a lot.

The only way I believe the ejection was warranted is if the official previously warned the players to stop with the extracurricular activity. Given the importance of the game, I believe a good official allows a bit more latitude and, unless the 1st incident is egregiously bad, warns the players before following up with ejection. If that was done (I have no way of knowing) then I get it. But if not, it's over-officiating and not understanding the situation.

While I get the argument that a 'punch' automatically warrants ejection, it wasn't crystal clear that it really was punch in the traditional sense. Both players were hand fighting and trying to get the other off them. However you view it, it was far from egregious and the official running in from the Del Oro sideline could have easily warned both players to cut the crap or they'd be ejected. That's likely all it would have taken.

Just my .02

Having said all that, what a coincidence it is that Del Oro's #3 was involved in arguably the two biggest plays of the game. Not only was he the player involved in the ejection, he also had the awareness to strip the ball that led to the game winning TD.

 

[Truthhertz]

Monkeyade arguing helmet to helmet being legal is what I am referring to. In this case they seem to go hand in hand and he seems to be justifying helmet to helmet as legal when recently NFHS made helmet to helmet an illegal play.

You are obsessing over a new rule you clearly don’t understand. Helmet contact happens on every snap of every football play in every game. Simple as that. This play doesn’t come close to meeting the parameters of what is illegal in terms of helmet contact.

 

[shcguy92]

I know the rule very well. Btw leading with the helmet has not been legal for many years. There are reasons why officials go to classes every year to go over this. Yes helmet to helmet contact happens every play just like holding happens every play in football. This play does meet the new parameters. Dropping the head and leading with the helmet is dangerous and obviously you need to attend more workshops on helmet to helmet at the high school level.

 

[Truthhertz]

I know the rule very well. Btw leading with the helmet has not been legal for many years. There are reasons why officials go to classes every year to go over this. Yes helmet to helmet contact happens every play just like holding happens every play in football. This play does meet the new parameters. Dropping the head and leading with the helmet is dangerous and obviously you need to attend more workshops on helmet to helmet at the high school level.

No it doesn’t. I would venture to say this video would be used exactly never in training coaches or officials of illegal head contact. It simply isn’t there.

 

[MonkeyAde]

I know the rule very well. Btw leading with the helmet has not been legal for many years. There are reasons why officials go to classes every year to go over this. Yes helmet to helmet contact happens every play just like holding happens every play in football. This play does meet the new parameters. Dropping the head and leading with the helmet is dangerous and obviously you need to attend more workshops on helmet to helmet at the high school level.

I just can’t comprehend how anyone with or without any football knowledge says he led with his helmet. His helmet is clearly to the left of the defender, not head on and his head isn’t down. WTH are you looking at? Also, his block had zero to do with ejection and he wasn’t flagged for it.
For those claiming it was an illegal block, can you explain why his head goes flying backwards? Then forwards at a downward angle? Let me help you, the DO player had his face mask pushed his head back and pulled forward with it. I don’t even think it was intentional. Not a big deal really. 2 players fighting for position. We saw the DO player grab-push-pull ( whatever term you want to use) face mask live. I actually text a friend immediately that’s what happen and he was ejected for pushing DO player back.
The official wasn’t even sure the CC qb threw a punch. The official also impacted the game week prior from what everyone is saying and many games in past. Out of respect to DO and the game, that hasn’t been brought up because at the end of the day, DO earned their victory with an amazing comeback and their accomplishment shouldn’t be diminished.

 

[shcguy92]

Obviously the officiating crew and the NFHS rules do not agree with both. But I guess you two are the rule makers and not the NFHS...so I am done with it. The crew threw out the player live with it.

Sorry you are all so butt hurt over the ejection but until you guys from the stand put on the stripes maybe it be best for you to keep the opinions to yourself about official ejections. If there was no reason to eject the player he would not have been ejected.

 

[ThunderRam]

but until you guys from the stand put on the stripes maybe it be best for you to keep the opinions to yourself about official ejections. If there was no reason to eject the player he would not have been ejected.

So should those that never played the game of football, or any sport for that matter, keep opinions to themselves regarding anything to do with how the game is played? That’s essentially what you’re saying with regard to officiating.

Also, how is it best for them to hold back their opinion when you didn’t hold back your opinion regarding what they had to say? That seems like hypocritical advice.

Help me to understand the logic.