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HSWIZARD73

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LMAO, this board will be silent now until October 2025. To everyone of you basketball gurus. It is hard as hell to win a state title period. When Riordan won in 2002, your a moron to think the D1 and D2 teams weee better than D3 Riordan and Centennial. Recruit more.
 
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i know everybody phone didnt die...
the comments were coming in hard and fast all season....
and now...
its like they forgot they password or summnn
 
i know everybody phone didnt die...
the comments were coming in hard and fast all season....
and now...
its like they forgot they password or summnn
Don’t know how long you have been in California but the way the CIF has changed things since the open is very suspect in my opinion.

Back in the late 80’s and 90’s you could petition to play up. Hence why a school of 300 kids aka Jason Kidd played D1. A few other schools did as well.

This last week I added up the combined losses of D1 thru 5 boys and girls that played for state titles It was over 200.

In the late 90’s they then went to enrollment period. And in most cases the division 1 games were so so and the D2-D4 and even a few D5 games were dynamite. Their was a team called Price from So Cal that would compete with this Riordan and Roosevelt team and would have easily beat every other boys team in all the other divisions.

What enrollment did was bring the best teams to the board? Klay Thompson played division 3. Tyson Chandler and Tyshaun Prince D2. Jrue Holiday D4 and every so often you would get guys like James Harden in D1. Year after year you literally got to watch the best of the best play.

But then came the open division. In reality should be called the private school killer. It took a majority of the privates and put them all open. Rosevelt of course is an exception and every so often may have that. But at the end of the day outside of the open division, all the rest of the better high schools are sitting at home.

And being SO Cal has been known to be loaded with talent, it doesn’t surprise me at all that after kicking SO Cal ass that the score was what it was last night against Nor Cal.

To me the CIF should go back to enrollment so the fans can witness the best teams play each and every year.
 
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The CIF fixation with "equity" has altered the playoffs. One of the aims of the change is to give the publics more chances for state titles. By cramming as many strong privates into the Open Division as possible in a given year, they are kept out of lower divisions, especially in NorCal. At least that's a goal.
 
Competitive Equity (CE) is socialism in sports. Playoffs are supposed to be about chasing excellence with the cream rising to the top on the final day. In this CE system half of the top teams are eliminated on the first day and mediocre teams (often with losing records) are given easy paths to play on. High school sports are supposed to be part of an education with the primary lesson being that hard work and team work will be rewarded. This CE system does the opposite and punishes hard work and achievement. The intent of CE is to help underachieving schools which is nice but they are doing it by lowering standards which has the unintended consequence of hurts those diligently striving for success. There are more underachieving schools than excellent schools so a system like this is popular and wins votes in the CIF. The irony is the strong are getting stronger and the weak are getting weaker in this CE system since to win open or D1 you need to accumulate more talent and that is what the top teams are doing often at the expense of weaker schools. I would like to see us go back to enrollment based divisions but keep the Open for the power teams (they are different).
 
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