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A win by Mack over SRV and if Pitt either wins or stays within 2 scores could solidify the SOS that Riordan played in non-league.
the mack srv game can do nothing to impact riordan. saint francis beat mack by way more than riordan the game was never close. and everybody already has riordan solidly number 3 in the west catholic league behind serra and saint francis. so number 3 they will remain until the games get played in person.

the good thing about this league is that it all gets decided on the field though.
 
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The entire WCAL league has a bye this week. But what games could move the rankings within the league?
1. JS - Although not expected, a win or close loss by Rocklin vs Folsom could change opinions about Serra. But it probably wouldn't move Serra from #1.
2. SF - A win by Mack over SRV would strengthen St. Francis's #2 spot.
3. AR - Wins by Riordan opponents probably won't raise AR to #2. but another loss by SB, this time to Oak Hills, could give SI the go ahead above AR.
4. SI - St. Ignatius needs Mack to beat SRV to make a possible #3 argument. CC of SDS win over Helix will have no merit.
5. AM - Not much can change Mitty's #4 ranking this week.
6. VC - No games this week will change Valley Christian's ranking upward.
7. SHC - No result should move SHP from #7.
8. BCP - enough said.
I was thinking a big win by SRV should strengthen SI's position.
 
A win by Mack over SRV and if Pitt either wins or stays within 2 scores could solidify the SOS that Riordan played in non-league.
A Mack win will strengthen both SF and AR's SOS and weakens SI's SOS. But it won't impact the current rankings IMO. Now a Pitt win might move the needle for AR - but that is not likely to happen.
 
Bishop O’Dowd was overrated to start the season along with many other teams.
yes they are i was just pointing out that mack clymonds beat them because that guy said they were 0-3.

speaking about o dowd - hopefully one day these schools learn that hiring a “coach” with no resume simply because they played in the nfl is a guaranteed way to ensure that your program will absolutely suck for at least 5 years. it never works. looking at you too dublin saint marys berkeley etc cetera.
 
get off max poops and read the newspaper. support local journalism and you might actually get informed in the process.
The problem is local journalism is biased. Hence, why Mack, Bishop ODowd, Valley Christian, Menlo Atherton, and others were all overrated being ranked high to start the season.

Max Preps takes your feelings out of the equation.
 
You don't know jack sh*

the issue is that the robo nerds are standing on the shoulders of the athletic giants that made the school what it is (serra and de la salle are examples - struggled with enrollment, decided to emphasize elite sports, now have waiting lists larger than there current enrollment) and then trying to steal the resources from athletics and claiming there are "more important" things. when the truth is these schools would either be closed, under enrolled, or barely able to exist without sports in the first place.

you can find plenty of private schools with sports and no robotics, but you can't find one with robotics and no sports. the nerds need to remember this and stop biting the hand that literally feeds them and provides the materials for there precious robots.
Some of your comments have some nice content, but most are pathetic and this is one.

Bellarmine as of 2021 had a 119mil endowment fund. Do you even have a clue whose kids go to this school? Have you been on the campus. It is shocking. So if you think sports provides dollars to the robotics team, you just made me laugh a minimum of 100 million times. If your kid was a damn near genius you would say toughen up and go get your head smashed in. Or keep it up kid, Stanford or Duke or MIT will be knocking.

Class of 2022 per a Google find, kids went to 8 different tech universities hard as heel to get into, 5 of the 8 Ivy League schools, and Stanford and many other schools that are hard as hell to get into as well.

I am an alum of SH, we are lucky to get a majority of that per the alum quarterly we get yearly. So do you really think Bellarmine gives a rats ass about sports these days.
 
Some of your comments have some nice content, but most are pathetic and this is one.

Bellarmine as of 2021 had a 119mil endowment fund. Do you even have a clue whose kids go to this school? Have you been on the campus. It is shocking. So if you think sports provides dollars to the robotics team, you just made me laugh a minimum of 100 million times. If your kid was a damn near genius you would say toughen up and go get your head smashed in. Or keep it up kid, Stanford or Duke or MIT will be knocking.

Class of 2022 per a Google find, kids went to 8 different tech universities hard as heel to get into, 5 of the 8 Ivy League schools, and Stanford and many other schools that are hard as hell to get into as well.

I am an alum of SH, we are lucky to get a majority of that per the alum quarterly we get yearly. So do you really think Bellarmine gives a rats ass about sports these days.
I have colleagues and/or business partners who are Bells alum who went to the school in the 90s and 2k. They are not happy. They typically donate annually, but are concerned about the state of both the football and basketball programs. Kids transferring out used to be unheard of but the Bells top WR is now at Branham. 2 of its best hoops players have transferred the past 2 years. Both to WCAL rivals VC and St. Francis. Just different times, expanded demographics and focus on just academics instead of the student-athlete.
 
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Some of your comments have some nice content, but most are pathetic and this is one.

Bellarmine as of 2021 had a 119mil endowment fund. Do you even have a clue whose kids go to this school? Have you been on the campus. It is shocking. So if you think sports provides dollars to the robotics team, you just made me laugh a minimum of 100 million times. If your kid was a damn near genius you would say toughen up and go get your head smashed in. Or keep it up kid, Stanford or Duke or MIT will be knocking.

Class of 2022 per a Google find, kids went to 8 different tech universities hard as heel to get into, 5 of the 8 Ivy League schools, and Stanford and many other schools that are hard as hell to get into as well.

I am an alum of SH, we are lucky to get a majority of that per the alum quarterly we get yearly. So do you really think Bellarmine gives a rats ass about sports these days.
yes I know who goes to the school. do you know how the school got the profile it got or how it got the large enroll mint and endow mint in the first place? how the school grew from nothing to the largest boys school in the reason? what got the school to the point where it has a years long waiting list?

hint - it wasn’t robots. like I said. get rid of robots and bellarmine continues on being the excellent school it is. get rid of sports and the school closes its doors withing 5 years.

sports do much more to raise a schools profile then robots. deal with it.
 
The entire WCAL league has a bye this week. But what games could move the rankings within the league?
1. JS - Although not expected, a win or close loss by Rocklin vs Folsom could change opinions about Serra. But it probably wouldn't move Serra from #1.
2. SF - A win by Mack over SRV would strengthen St. Francis's #2 spot.
3. AR - Wins by Riordan opponents probably won't raise AR to #2. but another loss by SB, this time to Oak Hills, could give SI the go ahead above AR.
4. SI - St. Ignatius needs Mack to beat SRV to make a possible #3 argument. CC of SDS win over Helix will have no merit.
5. AM - Not much can change Mitty's #4 ranking this week.
6. VC - No games this week will change Valley Christian's ranking upward.
7. SHC - No result should move SHP from #7.
8. BCP - enough said.
League play starts next week. It is still difficult to get a read on Riordan even after 3 games. They are amazing, inconsistent, inspiring, disappointing all depending on the the game you watch. So here is another round rankings from my perspective.
1. JS - the Padres have a lot more juice than believed at the beginning of the season. IMO, they are a very vulnerable #1 team.
2. SF - it won't take much to drop the Lancers from the #2 spot. Helix was not as good as expected and Mack is all over the map. However a first league game with BCP and second game with AM won't tell us much.
3. AR - As I mentioned to beginning this post, the Crusaders are showing a lot volatility. Pittsburg really helped Riordan and Mack really hurt them. I could see them as #1 and also as low as #4. We will know a lot more when AR meets SI their second league game.
4. SI - I really thought about moving the Wildcats above AR this round. CalPreps already has St. Ignatius rated higher than Riordan. And they may justify that higher rating depending how they do in their first league against Serra. And in two weeks, the ranking can be settled on the field when SI meets AR. For sure, SI has a much more consistent play compared to AR. Really its more about what face AR brings to the game than what kind of team SI is.
5. AM - None of the Monarchs' games so far are outstanding showings. This is good placement for Mitty right now.
6. VC - The Warriors are are the bottom side of the league this year. We will see if they can move upward or lose even more ground. Valley Christian gets a chance right away to prove something with their first league game with Mitty.
7. SHC - The Fightin' Irish meet AR for their first league game. A good showing could move them up.
8. BCP - The Bells are really struggling this year. They can change that impression with a good showing for their first league game against SF and could move up with a win against VC in their second league game.
 
League play starts next week. It is still difficult to get a read on Riordan even after 3 games. They are amazing, inconsistent, inspiring, disappointing all depending on the the game you watch. So here is another round rankings from my perspective.
1. JS - the Padres have a lot more juice than believed at the beginning of the season. IMO, they are a very vulnerable #1 team.
2. SF - it won't take much to drop the Lancers from the #2 spot. Helix was not as good as expected and Mack is all over the map. However a first league game with BCP and second game with AM won't tell us much.
3. AR - As I mentioned to beginning this post, the Crusaders are showing a lot volatility. Pittsburg really helped Riordan and Mack really hurt them. I could see them as #1 and also as low as #4. We will know a lot more when AR meets SI their second league game.
4. SI - I really thought about moving the Wildcats above AR this round. CalPreps already has St. Ignatius rated higher than Riordan. And they may justify that higher rating depending how they do in their first league against Serra. And in two weeks, the ranking can be settled on the field when SI meets AR. For sure, SI has a much more consistent play compared to AR. Really its more about what face AR brings to the game than what kind of team SI is.
5. AM - None of the Monarchs' games so far are outstanding showings. This is good placement for Mitty right now.
6. VC - The Warriors are are the bottom side of the league this year. We will see if they can move upward or lose even more ground. Valley Christian gets a chance right away to prove something with their first league game with Mitty.
7. SHC - The Fightin' Irish meet AR for their first league game. A good showing could move them up.
8. BCP - The Bells are really struggling this year. They can change that impression with a good showing for their first league game against SF and could move up with a win against VC in their second league game.
The Riordan @ SI game will be telling. I see SI making a push for the #2 spot in the WCAL.

Everyone might be in for a surprise this week if we pull off the Serra upset.

Our front 4 on D has been stout and thats without the best DT in the Bay Area playing Manoah Faupusa.

He'll finally be eligible to play in the AR game moving forward and will have plenty of time to get acclimated for league play and playoffs.
 
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League play starts next week. It is still difficult to get a read on Riordan even after 3 games. They are amazing, inconsistent, inspiring, disappointing all depending on the the game you watch. So here is another round rankings from my perspective.
1. JS - the Padres have a lot more juice than believed at the beginning of the season. IMO, they are a very vulnerable #1 team.
2. SF - it won't take much to drop the Lancers from the #2 spot. Helix was not as good as expected and Mack is all over the map. However a first league game with BCP and second game with AM won't tell us much.
3. AR - As I mentioned to beginning this post, the Crusaders are showing a lot volatility. Pittsburg really helped Riordan and Mack really hurt them. I could see them as #1 and also as low as #4. We will know a lot more when AR meets SI their second league game.
4. SI - I really thought about moving the Wildcats above AR this round. CalPreps already has St. Ignatius rated higher than Riordan. And they may justify that higher rating depending how they do in their first league against Serra. And in two weeks, the ranking can be settled on the field when SI meets AR. For sure, SI has a much more consistent play compared to AR. Really its more about what face AR brings to the game than what kind of team SI is.
5. AM - None of the Monarchs' games so far are outstanding showings. This is good placement for Mitty right now.
6. VC - The Warriors are are the bottom side of the league this year. We will see if they can move upward or lose even more ground. Valley Christian gets a chance right away to prove something with their first league game with Mitty.
7. SHC - The Fightin' Irish meet AR for their first league game. A good showing could move them up.
8. BCP - The Bells are really struggling this year. They can change that impression with a good showing for their first league game against SF and could move up with a win against VC in their second league game.
@FBAddict, good assessment going into WCAL next weekend. Spot on re Riordan as volatile - and I see that as the Crusaders have the highest ceiling as they have not yet put together a complete game. There's been glimpses, but injuries to 4 starters and having slow starts against St. Bonaventure and Pitt didn't help. In both those losses Riordan was down at times by 3 scores and had the firepower to comeback only to lose those games in the final minutes. With Lawson and Nash out, Riordan found a silver lining in its run game with Jones piling up yards behind a huge OL against stout defenses from SB and Pitt. Jones is expected to get additional rb help with a promising soph who's been on the mend. Sr. Dubrinwy, jr. Cynai Thomas and soph Wes Winn have gotten more receptions the past 2 games. With Lawson and Nash returning will make the offense more potent. Btw -Serra had the best SOS (70.8) with Riordan at second 35.3, St. Francis right behind at 33.7, SI at 25.8, Mitty @ 2.9, VC at 18.7, SHC at -8.9 and Bellarmine at 14.2. Of course, none of this matters as all these teams will be facing each other in the coming weeks and most likely into CCS. WCAL has not seen this potential parity in a few years. Can't wait til next weekend!
 
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yes I know who goes to the school. do you know how the school got the profile it got or how it got the large enroll mint and endow mint in the first place? how the school grew from nothing to the largest boys school in the reason? what got the school to the point where it has a years long waiting list?

hint - it wasn’t robots. like I said. get rid of robots and bellarmine continues on being the excellent school it is. get rid of sports and the school closes its doors withing 5 years.

sports do much more to raise a schools profile then robots. deal with it.
Sorry you lost me with the “mint” out the gate. Just wow. Enroll mint, endow mint, mint chocolate chip, thin mints, now follow this next one, pepper mint moist and plump patties. You know the super size two for a dollar ones at the corner store across from the US mint. Please confirm if you are a alum of any Catholic school, cause that school should immediteMINT shut the hell down

PS: you want to bet a pack of breath MINTS on this 5 year forecast
 
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My remark was about JSquare/SFCityFan/Gael insinuating that SHC students lack intelligence and can't compete academically with other schools which is absolute bulls$#!t. Not directed at Bellarmine or anyone else.
I must have hit a nerve, truth does that,…I pointed out the amount of AP class placement in SI & #WeR, and I just listed the amount of under graduate diversity in post HS studies at SI & #WeR. If that data is incorrect post a response to clarify. But as usual @Irish_Cheers rambles ( you don’t know jack,..), if a statement were made about SHC students and @Irish_Cheers read that. As usual his reading comprehension is lacking as much as his knowledge of HS prep sports or projecting his intellect on SHC’s student body😳🤣😳🤣

I would like to point the difference in btwn SHC & Belleramine in post high school achievements is more based on economic opportunities based on family support and has nothing to with the institution or board fan base,…sorry @Irish_Cheers or @iamgearyblvd.🥲🥲

Can we get back to the #WCAL~Toilet Bowl Game conversation. In my opinion, the Bells have more to draw from in historic perspective, pride and will not allow themselves to be the flushed to a negative outcome. On the other hand, I hope SHC can lift themselves out of the “cellar dweller” position, but that is not a normal wipe,… we all have to be candid and admit they are used to this position after last year’s performance.

Now, I will defer to the the Board Guru’s, @colhenrylives, @FBAddict, @ArmchairGOAT, but after a Zero wins of league games in back2back years… it is hard to recruit the type of Impact student/athlete to build a successful program and may need to return to Independent to regroup “again”?i

Just my opinion, I could be wrong?
 
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I must have hit a nerve, truth does that,…I pointed out the amount of AP class placement in SI & #WeR, and I just listed the amount of under graduate diversity in post HS studies at SI & #WeR. If that data is incorrect post a response to clarify. But as usual @Irish_Cheers rambles ( you don’t know jack,..), if a statement were made about SHC students and @Irish_Cheers read that. As usual his reading comprehension is lacking as much as his knowledge of HS prep sports or projecting his intellect on SHC’s student body😳🤣😳🤣

I would like to point the difference in btwn SHC & Belleramine in post high school achievements is more based on economic opportunities based on family support and has nothing to with the institution or board fan base,…sorry @Irish_Cheers or @iamgearyblvd.🥲🥲

Can we get back to the #WCAL~Toilet Bowl Game conversation. In my opinion, the Bells have more to draw from in historic perspective, pride and will not allow themselves to be the flushed to a negative outcome. On the other hand, I hope SHC can lift themselves out of the “cellar dweller” position, but that is not a normal wipe,… we all have to be candid and admit they are used to this position after last year’s performance.

Now, I will defer to the the Board Guru’s, @colhenrylives, @FBAddict, @ArmchairGOAT, but after a Zero wins of league games in back2back years… it is hard to recruit the type of Impact student/athlete to build a successful program and may need to return to Independent to regroup “again”?i

Just my opinion, I could be wrong?
“after a Zero wins of league games in back2back years… it is hard to recruit the type of Impact student/athlete to build a successful program”

Apparently not. Riordan had one of the worst football decades in league history in the 2010s, and I heard many a whisper about closure. They righted the ship with new admin, going coed, and recruiting 4 stars.
 
The closure of Mercy-SF gave Riordan the go-ahead to become a coed outfit. The move has gone a very long way toward saving the school, along with the boarding component which generates big excess dollars that can be used for the school's operations. The plan is working.
 
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yes they are i was just pointing out that mack clymonds beat them because that guy said they were 0-3.

speaking about o dowd - hopefully one day these schools learn that hiring a “coach” with no resume simply because they played in the nfl is a guaranteed way to ensure that your program will absolutely suck for at least 5 years. it never works. looking at you too dublin saint marys berkeley etc cetera.
Successful Head Coaches are almost always on campus teachers. They actually become part of the campus community and they know how to coach (teach!). Which are sadly becoming more rare in the Bay Area but still relatively coming in Sac/Valley.
 
“after a Zero wins of league games in back2back years… it is hard to recruit the type of Impact student/athlete to build a successful program”
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Apparently not. Riordan had one of the worst football decades in league history in the 2010s, and I heard many a whisper about closure. They righted the ship with new admin, going coed, and recruiting 4 stars.
I don’t think #WeR was ever IN true conversations about closure. Maybe a relocation to the old Serramonte HS site to open up availability, but putting the right processes together achieved both.

But you may be right about being a cellar of league, but #WeR never thought or considered closing or leaving the league and that is the difference btwn (formerly known as AR) & SHC.

But don’t you think you answered your own point?
 
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The closure of Mercy-SF gave Riordan the go-ahead to become a coed outfit. The move has gone a very long way toward saving the school, along with the boarding component which generates big excess dollars that can be used for the school's operations. The plan is working.
True, I would never counter point one of the best board’s guru’s,…

However the boarding school aspect of #WeR, turned resources to benefit operating expense. But the REAL CHANGE ; was with the leadership in Administration, Athletic Department alignment with Administration and “Last but probably Most Importantly” was the actual hiring by Athletic Department of Varsity Coaches that are matched to the focus of the later mentioned.

I know it is last years mantra:
# NewAttitude
#NewApproach
#PurpleRegien

I am not in the Drake Camp, but he was right about “starting from the bottom”. But now the #TheR, seems to be more like Lamar and focusing on “Not Like Us”🎼
 
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Successful Head Coaches are almost always on campus teachers. They actually become part of the campus community and they know how to coach (teach!). Which are sadly becoming more rare in the Bay Area but still relatively coming in Sac/Valley.
I challenge that Paradigm, the Varsity coaches at TheR are a mixture of on campus and off campus,…the right person(s) is More Important🏐🏀🏈😎

Absolute statements are Absolutely wrong perspectives,…
 
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For your consideration (and taking into account the differences in SOS throughout), here are the composite (varsity, JV and frosh) standings for the eight WCAL entrants as they prepare for the start of league play this week (according to WCAL website):

1. Mitty, 8-1
2 SHC (no frosh team), 5-1
3. Valley Christian, 6-2
4. St. Fancis, 6-3
5. St. Ignatius, 4-5
6. Riordan (no frosh team), 2-3
8 (tie) Serra/Bellarmine 2-8
 
The closure of Mercy-SF gave Riordan the go-ahead to become a coed outfit. The move has gone a very long way toward saving the school, along with the boarding component which generates big excess dollars that can be used for the school's operations. The plan is working.
I wouldn’t be shocked if Salesian is the next school to board students. And if I am not mistaken my alum SHC has one brother left, might be 2, but pretty sure it is one in the brothers house. Salesians house is in Berkeley.

However back in the late 80’s and early 90’s football wasn’t much of an attraction as guys had to trek out to the Polo fields daily for practice. And although we now have a 60 yard practice field, I don’t ever foresee the school being able to attract a ton of talent versus schools like Riordan, SI, and Serra, where athletes literally get to hit the field the minute school is over.
 
Who you got?
Week 1 - WCAL
Friday, Sept 27th

  • Serra @ St. Ignatius 35-17
  • Bellarmine @ St. Francis 42-7
Saturday, Sept 28th
  • Sacred Heart Cathedral @ Archbishop Riordan 49-14
  • Archbishop Mitty @ Valley Christian 28-14
 
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one school out of thousands, that does not win championships in any sport, does not an example make. bro.
Let me clarify something on the front in,…you are “Not like Me”. So the Bro verbiage, you can put a hold on😎
Do you have the numerical data of on campus vs off campuses that correlates to championships and to support your opinion, or are we making absolute statements? Or are you just trying to be an agent of argument,… which I suggest may be your agenda. Either way that is not debate,..
 
Who you got?
Week 1 - WCAL
Friday, Sept 27th

  • Serra @ St. Ignatius 35-17
  • Bellarmine @ St. Francis 42-7
Saturday, Sept 28th
  • Sacred Heart Cathedral @ Archbishop Riordan 49-14
  • Archbishop Mitty @ Valley Christian 28-14

SI pulling off the upset to beat Serra 30-28
(I'm a homer! What did you expect?)
St. Francis over Bells 42-7
Riordan over SHC 35-7
Mitty over VC 21-14
 
Let me clarify something on the front in,…you are “Not like Me”. So the Bro verbiage, you can put a hold on😎
Do you have the numerical data of on campus vs off campuses that correlates to championships and to support your opinion, or are we making absolute statements? Or are you just trying to be an agent of argument,… which I suggest may be your agenda. Either way that is not debate,..
here is data.

the next championship riordan wins this decade will be the first.

because they have zero.

in the famous words of that grizzlies coach. take that for data.
 
here is data.

the next championship riordan wins this decade will be the first.

because they have zero.

in the famous words of that grizzlies coach. take that for data.
Only 2 WCAL teams can claim a WCAL title this decade. But I get it, time to put up or shut up.
 
here is data.

the next championship riordan wins this decade will be the first.

because they have zero.

in the famous words of that grizzlies coach. take that for data.
Okay,…since you want to be salty😳🤣🤣

As I posted, with the change in administration and AD leadership there has been a modification in Approach & ATTITUDE. Last year’s mantra:#🎤…drop

I stated, which you want to deflect from your absolute “statement of thousand”. Where is your data. What is your reference….On the absolute of on campus vs.off campus coaches. I can only think when you stated thousands, the reference point would be beyond #WeR; “Hmmm…seems like you have 999 pro with only an answer for 1”.

But let me be clear, although a coaches self measurement is W/L and banners. My parameter of a successful program is student/athletes obtaining D1 opportunities coming out of #WeR, remember student/athletes are not D1 until they graduate from HS

C’Mon Man….Come STRONG or Fallback: “Ain’t no shame In That”😎😎
 
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Sorry you lost me with the “mint” out the gate. Just wow. Enroll mint, endow mint, mint chocolate chip, thin mints, now follow this next one, pepper mint moist and plump patties. You know the super size two for a dollar ones at the corner store across from the US mint. Please confirm if you are a alum of any Catholic school, cause that school should immediteMINT shut the hell down

PS: you want to bet a pack of breath MINTS on this 5 year forecast
This is the HZWIZARD that I used to know,… this guy had wit🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
so you
Okay,…since you want to be salty😳🤣🤣

As I posted, with the change in administration and AD leadership there has been a modification in Approach & ATTITUDE. Last year’s mantra:#🎤…drop

I stated, which you want to deflect from your absolute “statement of thousand”. Where is your data. What is your reference….On the absolute of on campus vs.off campus coaches. I can only think when you stated thousands, the reference point would be beyond #WeR; “Hmmm…seems like you have 999 pro with only an answer for 1”.

But let me be clear, although a coaches self measurement is W/L and banners. My parameter of a successful program is student/athletes obtaining D1 opportunities coming out of #WeR, remember student/athletes are not D1 until they graduate from HS

C’Mon Man….Come STRONG or Fallback: “Ain’t no shame In That”😎😎
so you admit that you don’t care about winning. enough said. and that my friend is why nobody takes riordan serious.

oh and that also contradicts with all the bragging and flexing you do on the rare occasions they actually do find someone they can beat.

oh and look at the top 25 teams in not cal and see how many of them have teachers or educators as coaches. I’ll wait
 
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