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At Las Positas today. Brookside Christian leads Salesian 33-32 at halftime.

Angel Jackson is going to be very good. Already looks comfortable around the basket. Aarion McDonald impacts the game so much for Brookside through scoring and loading up the opponent in fouls.
 
Under the radar good coach is Larry Price. Doug a good job at Elk Grove this year after rebuilding Florin from nothing.

Bishop Manogue leads 49-45 with 4 minutes left.
 
Antelope leads West Campus 28-25 at halftime. Game has lacked flow, but I'm impressed with Antelope. Strong guard play and enough size to not get overpowered inside.
 
Antelope beats West Campus 58-54. Will play Bishop Manogue in the finals.

We're about 50 minutes behind schedule.
 
ODowd leads SHC 24-17 at halftime. Iimar'i Thomas leads all scorers with 10 points.
 
Bishop ODowd wins 59-42 behind four players in double figures. Myah Pace had 16 points.
 
Poly wins 63-42. Game was never in doubt after the first quarter.

Poly will face ODowd in the Platinum finals tomorrow night.

Sac High will face SHC in the third place game.
 
It is for third place. It doesn't mean the winner was the third best team. Under that logic, Poly and O'Dowd aren't playing for the title tonight because the whole bracket doesn't mean anything
 
You are correct. Whoever wins tonight won't have played one of the strongest teams in the division due to the travel situation. Nothing could have been done about it to fix it but at least BOD and Have won both their games heading into tonight
 
You are correct. Whoever wins tonight won't have played one of the strongest teams in the division due to the travel situation. Nothing could have been done about it to fix it but at least BOD and Have won both their games heading into tonight

What was the travel problems? I think Lynwood is the team with the travel issues? Aren't Lynwood from southern California which is only a 5 hour drive or hour and some change flight away from the Bay Area? Or was it travel issues with some other team from perhaps further away? Just what were the travel issues?
 
Lynwood is from Washington. It was talked about in a previous thread, but they scheduled an earlier flight home thinking the games would be done and couldn't change their flights.
 
Lynwood is from Washington. It was talked about in a previous thread, but they scheduled an earlier flight home thinking the games would be done and couldn't change their flights.
Thanks. I obviously didn't see that earlier thread. How good is Lynwood? I think I read they man handled SHC. It appears many teams are to my surprise easily handling SHC. Any thoughts on why SHC is struggling or how good Lynwood is?
 
I caught part of Lynwood's game yesterday and think they would have beaten O'Dowd. Would be a pick'em type game against Poly, but I would probably side with Poly.

SHC just doesn't have much offense right now outside of Thomas. And they struggle with teams pressure their guards. Rough spot now, but they will be there at the end.
 
It's almost 10:00. When will the WCJ brackets be updated? I've got to say that the website is a bit useless when you can go to Twitter and find out more info than the own tournament website. What about box scores, etc. ?????
 
This is our first year working with MaxPreps on the brackets, and there are a few bugs that need to be worked out. Hopefully it will be smoother next year ...

We do not keep box scores for the games. The designated home team is the official book for each game.

Thanks to all who attended, commented and were involved ... we appreciate all the support. Also, our hard-working staff at each of the nine sites did a tremendous job over three long days. I hope a few people managed to thank them on Wednesday ...
 
I caught part of Lynwood's game yesterday and think they would have beaten O'Dowd. Would be a pick'em type game against Poly, but I would probably side with Poly.

SHC just doesn't have much offense right now outside of Thomas. And they struggle with teams pressure their guards. Rough spot now, but they will be there at the end.

Interesting about a team not having offense. I personally think that is where a "coach" (if they are a good coach) must figure things out. From what I've been told SHC has a good coach.

To me.... leadership,scouting, game planning, being personally accountable, figuring out problems, spotting and exploiting an opponents weakness, making adjustments,Putting the right combination of players on the floor, creating favorable match ups, helping create higher confidence, and building self esteem are a coach's job.


But more times than not we see a coach on the sideline who many times is more afraid during the games than the players are. Many would rather point fingers at the players and micro manage players instead of putting the right players in the right lanes and getting out of the way so the right players can get the job done. Basketball is not life threatening. There is absolutely nothing you should be afraid of IMO. Not parents, not players, and not other teams.

Coaches manage the game, players play it.

By managing the game, and not the players, the coach can be focused on making the correct adjustments themselves and not just blaming failures on the players lack of execution. You manage the game, and encourage the players.

Many times there are players with offensive skills who can create problems off the dribble but coaches are too ego fixated on running the system or complex plays than encouraging the right players to do more than they are presently doing.You adjust depending on each game or separate circumstance.

It is tough watching some of the incompetent game time decisions and poor game time management. Or watching coaches mis guide children and suck the passion for the game out of many of them.

Why make basketball so complex? It is just basketball, always has been, and always will be, just basketball.

The coaches hold all the strings. The better coaches usually figure it all out with less ego. They usually don't play favorites or just automatically hand things to any one player. No the best coaches do what is in the best interest of the entire "team."

And they give the players the credit for the wins and shoulder the blame themselves for the losses. That is why some are more successful than others. And it is why some are asked to leave and others decide for themselves when to move on to the next challenge.
 
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I think a coach can manufacture offense or defense with scheme, but there is a ceiling to it. You need players who can create plays on both ends of the floor to be successful at an elite level.

A school like Mission San Jose is a great example of this.
 
Schemes are fine, but especially on offense, the ability to make shots, handle the ball, and make crisp passes are necessities. It doesn't matter how well a play works if the shot is missed, or if the dribbler can't get to the correct spot on the floor, or the receiver is unable to catch the pass.

Schemes are more effective defensively, I think, because they are more reliant on being in the right place, playing hard and understanding the concepts involved rather than relying on skills that take years to develop.
 
I think a coach can manufacture offense or defense with scheme, but there is a ceiling to it. You need players who can create plays on both ends of the floor to be successful at an elite level.

A school like Mission San Jose is a great example of this.

Good points ! No doubt you need the players. That is part of my point. Players make the plays. Coaches decide who plays, make the adjustments, and manage the game. I have noticed some coaches either are terrible at recognizing talent or lack there of.... or simply play favorites based on parent or outside pressure. As a coach you should be the most accountable part of a team. And you should do what is in the best interest of the team. If there are problems with scoring, bullying, selfishness, or anything else correcting the problem should be a coaches responsibility.

Some coaches handle the pressure and leadership better than others. And some teams are less selfish and work better as a "team" than others.
Some only want to win if they or their kid is personally responsible for the victory. And they'd prefer to stand in the way and lose even if their having an off day or someone else is a bit more capable. Only losers demand to put themselves before doing what's best for the "team".

I always thought "team" sports was about learning to work well as a "team" that includes the coach's role and accountability. And players, parents, and coaches all focused on doing what's best for the "team" not selfish agendas and individual success or division being more important than "team".

It seems to me to be logical that adults or coaches should be expected to help kids figure out things they have not experienced or don't know.
And then once the adults put the kids in the proper lanes and provide the proper support it becomes easier for kids to think for themselves and work well together. And adults both parents and coaches must not encourage or support selfishness or bullying at the team's expense. If parents don't make their kids earn things or respect others, the coach should. That is part of the lesson team sports teaches when parents fail to make kids work for, or earn things. Or the lesson of supporting those that are more capable. And sacrificing to win as opposed to selfishly standing in the way and increasing the chances of losing.
 
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Schemes are fine, but especially on offense, the ability to make shots, handle the ball, and make crisp passes are necessities. It doesn't matter how well a play works if the shot is missed, or if the dribbler can't get to the correct spot on the floor, or the receiver is unable to catch the pass.

Schemes are more effective defensively, I think, because they are more reliant on being in the right place, playing hard and understanding the concepts involved rather than relying on skills that take years to develop.

Yes. You do need the players. And there will always be a team that you run into that either pushes you to the limit or beats you. All that should be expected is accountable and responsible leadership at the top. And players who are willing to put in the necessary work and sacrifice to earn the right to have the success. You will have good and not so good nights as a coach. And you will have good and not so good nights as a player and/or team. That is why if the coach is good he will make the best adjustments and put in the best lineups. And if the coach is having an off day if prepared and coached right the players can make the coach look good.This is basketball. This is not the classroom where they intentionally make things complex to frustrate and weed kids out. Basketball should be left fun and simple. Kids dont need the ego and a bunch complex plays. I don't get what could be hard about basketball? It's just basketball.

Keep it simple, don't get it twisted.
 
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