Bishop O'Dowd-Miramonte Saturday at 5 (plus others)
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Right now, my eight would be
Mitty
Pinewood/Menlo (2nd in CCS Open)
Salesian
Three from this group: SJND, Cardinal Newman, BOD, Miramonte
SMS
Antelope/Laguna Creek
Now if SMS gets upset in the SJS D-1 finals by McClatchy or someone like that, then now only two other NCS teams join Salesian and SMS and the D-1 winner go to NorCals with the D2 winner.
It's also possible that if Pinewood and Menlo play to triple OT in the CCS Open semis, both of them would go, again cutting the NCS group to three.
Still don't think they're going eight, though ...
Mitty
Pinewood/Menlo (2nd in CCS Open)
Salesian
Three from this group: SJND, Cardinal Newman, BOD, Miramonte
SMS
Antelope/Laguna Creek
Now if SMS gets upset in the SJS D-1 finals by McClatchy or someone like that, then now only two other NCS teams join Salesian and SMS and the D-1 winner go to NorCals with the D2 winner.
It's also possible that if Pinewood and Menlo play to triple OT in the CCS Open semis, both of them would go, again cutting the NCS group to three.
Still don't think they're going eight, though ...
It just seems as though there aren't enough "quality teams" to justify 8 in Norcal this year. What's interesting/weird is that people are saying if American gets upset, there's a chance they go to D2. But what about the D2 champs in NCS, CCS, or SJS? Does that mean they go up to D1 because of competitive equity?
Remember, there are likely to be just 6 Open teams, and last year there were just 14 D1 teams. That’s only 20 spots!
So if you are not one of the top 6-8 teams in the SJS, NCS or CCS regardless of your division, you’re not likely to make D1. So if you are a good NCS or CCS team that is not being mentioned as a possible Open team, you’ll likely be in D2 or maybe even D3.
so lets say a team like Montgomery or Alameda (NCS) win D2. today they're ranked overall 12/13th. After all is said and done, would winning a d2 championship (these two in particular) prompt them to move up a division? If both run the table and some D1 teams lose and drop in rankings...it is possible..right?
They are only taking the winner and runner up in D1 this year along with every other division. So D1 teams that lose before championship game aren't in the Norcal discussion
Sure it’s possible. I believe only the top 2 finalists from D1 through D3 will make NorCal in addition to the 6 Open teams, plus one at large team, so there’ll be a few highly ranked D1 teams that won’t move on. The NCS D2 winner will probably go D2 in NCS, but could go D1 depending on the rankings of the teams from other sections that end up qualifying.
The at-large bid, I would suspect, will go to an NCS D-1 team. If American were to enter postseason with one loss and get upset in the quarters, that would be the kind of choice they'd make. San Ramon Valley might fall into the same category.
As for the NorCal process, each section submits an ordered list of teams, which the NorCal committee then works with to fill the divisional brackets. The committee can alter the order if it wants to, but it's unlikely. So if SJS, say, submits the order: D1 winner, D2 winner, D1 runnerup, D3 winner, etc. ..., then the D1 runnerup likely won't go Open. And NCS must place the Open losers in order even though they won't play out the round. (I'm assuming all the Open teams will be ahead of the D1 winner, but it's possible NCS will put the D1 winner ahead of the bottom two Open teams.)
As for the NorCal process, each section submits an ordered list of teams, which the NorCal committee then works with to fill the divisional brackets. The committee can alter the order if it wants to, but it's unlikely. So if SJS, say, submits the order: D1 winner, D2 winner, D1 runnerup, D3 winner, etc. ..., then the D1 runnerup likely won't go Open. And NCS must place the Open losers in order even though they won't play out the round. (I'm assuming all the Open teams will be ahead of the D1 winner, but it's possible NCS will put the D1 winner ahead of the bottom two Open teams.)
I actually think there's a good chance this year that the Central Section sends an Open team to the North. If you look at the current top 12 teams on maxpreps, 8 are from the south, 3 from the north. The southern section is deeper this year and the #1 team is from SD. Cathedral has some losses but is just as good as any teams 9-16 that will be in the Open. So I could definitely see a Central Section team being sent North. There is no longer a cap on how many a section can send to the Open--so we'll see how the next couple weeks play out and what the committees do with it all.
There were several factors, first and foremost where teams wanted to play. Cardinal Newman, SJND and Bishop O'Dowd all wanted the Platinum (the top division).
We don't like to overload any bracket with too many teams from the same section -- that's not why teams comes to the Jamboree -- so Miramonte was dropped to the Diamond. Heritage was obviously hosting, so they stayed in the Gold. We put Salesian in the Diamond with Miramonte and Antelope in the Gold with Heritage.
Oakland Tech was happy playing at Heritage (and Miramonte had them on their schedule) so that made sense.
So we had three NCS teams in the Platinum, two in the Diamond and one in the Gold. Ideally it would have been two, two and two, but the three teams, as mentioned, wanted Platinum.
We don't like to overload any bracket with too many teams from the same section -- that's not why teams comes to the Jamboree -- so Miramonte was dropped to the Diamond. Heritage was obviously hosting, so they stayed in the Gold. We put Salesian in the Diamond with Miramonte and Antelope in the Gold with Heritage.
Oakland Tech was happy playing at Heritage (and Miramonte had them on their schedule) so that made sense.
So we had three NCS teams in the Platinum, two in the Diamond and one in the Gold. Ideally it would have been two, two and two, but the three teams, as mentioned, wanted Platinum.
We wanted to accommodate those teams that wanted to play Platinum. Salesian and Miramonte both would have been happy with Platinum, and conceivably Heritage as well, but since Heritage was a host, that wouldn't work.
We send out tentative brackets to all teams before they are finalized to get input. The WCJ is a tournament for the teams, and we try to make requests work whenever we can.
We send out tentative brackets to all teams before they are finalized to get input. The WCJ is a tournament for the teams, and we try to make requests work whenever we can.
