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I have mixed feelings about league size(regarding football-only).Overall, this looks pretty good. But I agree that an 8 team league is too big. Shorter league schedules allow teams to better schedule to their level.
Good point. We need to go to football-only leagues. Football creates unique competitive problems.The metro has to be fixed. Every team but Grant and Indy should be in lower divisions. Those schools are not getting better at fb, your giving them the death penalty by subjecting them to the physical beatings they will take on Friday nights. How long before Cordova, Kennedy, McClatchy and River City's best players just transfer to Grant or Indy? Shoot they're probably already there anyways.
Pretty tough to argue with anything you have said.FB only leagues will not be approved by the board. I do think there are some ways to make fb only ammendments but I'm not sure they want that either. End of the day we have some big schools that are poor at fb and those admin or districts don't seem to care or can't get them better for some reason, this screws up a better alternative allingment.
Man the Metro needs major work. The schools that you mentioned (Cordova, CkM, RC, and Kenn. should be playing D4/5 football.The metro has to be fixed. Every team but Grant and Indy should be in lower divisions. Those schools are not getting better at fb, your giving them the death penalty by subjecting them to the physical beatings they will take on Friday nights. How long before Cordova, Kennedy, McClatchy and River City's best players just transfer to Grant or Indy? Shoot they're probably already there anyways.
From what I am hearing, you are not going to get too much buy-in from the EGUSD schools about mixing up the current Delta proposal. I have talked to people at four of the seven schools, and they are all okay with it. I personally, have not heard of anyone in EGUSD against it. There seems to be the idea that if anyone tweaks that part of realignment, it will be from outside of Elk Grove.Haven’t heard anything but that sounds like a good idea. Maybe the SJS should consider an 8 team D1 football league:
New SJS league could consist of a North and South Division. This league would be just as good, if not better than the current SFL. It would also give teams like St. Mary’s, Monterey Trails, and Manteca an opportunity to compete against better competition. North teams would play everyone in their division including 2 others from the South. Vice versa. (Or just play all 7 teams).
North Divsion
1) Folsom
2) Oak Ridge
3) Granite Bay
4) Jesuit
South Division
1) St. Mary’s
2) Manteca
3) Elk Grove
4) Monterey Trails
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Other D1 football leagues
North
Sheldon
Laguna
PG
Franklin
CO
Davis
TCAL
Tracy
Lodi
Lincoln
Edison
Tokay
West
Division 2
I-80 league
Del Oro
Rocklin
Grant
Inderkum
Whitney
Roseville
Woodcreek
Antelope
Division 3 League
Christian Brothers
Capital Christian
Vanden
Vacaville
Yuba City
River Valley
Word is Inderkum wants out of the Metro and in on the delta.. havent heard from the new SFL schools tho.. there might be some harsh feelings there as well..Sounds like lots of schools wanting to change their current league placements from the previous meeting. Sounds like a cluster F so far.
Yes, you are right. The problem is football. It will always be football. It is THE outlier that makes it hard to properly align schools. Until the Section finally admits that, they will always have this problem.Imo, the Metro proposal for football was embarrassing.
It makes geographical sense to have all of the EGUSD schools in one league. Would also be fairly formidable with Elk Grove, MT, and possibly Sheldon in football…From what I am hearing, you are not going to get too much buy-in from the EGUSD schools about mixing up the current Delta proposal. I have talked to people at four of the seven schools, and they are all okay with it. I personally, have not heard of anyone in EGUSD against it. There seems to be the idea that if anyone tweaks that part of realignment, it will be from outside of Elk Grove.
We'll all know more by tomorrow. This 2nd meeting is when any behind-the-scenes maneuvering or ideas come to light.
I read from another source that the CCAL coaches want to preserve the league the way it is (which is in line with the current realignment proposal). When the CCAL was first formed it was predicted that Turlock and Pitman would dominate and while Pitman has totally gone in the tank Turlock did not lose any league games for the first few years. In the last two seasons Downey has come on but the reality is that the league is weak after the top two. I have no insight into why the other teams don't improve, especially Pitman as they used to have good teams. I would surmise that a winning culture has a lot to do with it, and Turlock for a number of years has had it. They expect to excel, their JV and Freshman teams always are winners , feeding the varsity, and they're not afraid to schedule difficult OOC games even knowing that they could lose the majority of them. Now, all of these observations are about football, and that is by far the driving force in high school athletics (and college). But in the other sports the CCAL is much better balanced so that is a consideration. Adding Manteca and Oakdale would immediately increase the football stature. Is that what they want?@BlackHatFootbal on Twitter has this update regarding some schools in the South:
I get that Manteca isn't a great fit overall, but I'm struggling to see how Kimball is better.tcal: manteca out, kimball in.. wonder if kimball pushes back on that.
Of course you are right.Probably because Kimball doesn't have anybody fighting for them. The more you fight, the more things go your way...the less you fight, the more you get whatever is leftover.
to be clear, kimball is D3 in pretty much every sport except football. And the smallest (non St Marys) school in the TCAL is tracy at 1800. Still rough, but a more accurate picture.But HOW did anybody think jumping Kimball from D4 and 1621 students to D1 with Lincoln at 2900+ makes any sense?
It's still a head scratcher. To go from D3 to competing with the largest school in the section seems a stretch. There are other schools in between who might make more sense.to be clear, kimball is D3 in pretty much every sport except football. And the smallest (non St Marys) school in the TCAL is tracy at 1800. Still rough, but a more accurate picture.
Yes. That's right.MT, I always come back to the same conclusion; its a too hard of a task to make realingment with the current structure. The section realingmennt crew has a no-win job with way too many moving parts.