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SFcityfan said:
Let me clarify something on the front in,…you are “Not like Me”. So the Bro verbiage, you can put a hold on😎
Do you have the numerical data of on campus vs off campuses that correlates to championships and to support your opinion, or are we making absolute statements? Or are you just trying to be an agent of argument,… which I suggest may be your agenda. Either way that is not debate,..
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here is data.

the next championship riordan wins this decade will be the first.

because they have zero.

in the famous words of that grizzlies coach. take that for data.
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dlew66 said:
I disagree…sorta. CN is that good. I’ve played/watched a ton of football and these guys are real. My grandson is a sophomore/starting DT at BOD and he held his own out there, but he said these are some of the best guys he’s played against…ever. He’s been playing high level football for 10 years.

These CN young men have been playing together for years. I remember several of them from the Redwood PAL Golden Bears youth football league. They’ve been beating the brakes off of teams for a while.

They remind me of the mid-80s Skyline High School squads that had Brian Johnson (Stanford/Detroit Tigers) at QB. Simple plays but great execution, big active line, speed at the skilled positions, and a few D1 guys. The OAL didn’t go to the NCS playoffs back then at the end of the season. But their ‘84 squad beat DLS and went undefeated.

They are def an Open team in NCS, unfortunately. This is where I agree with you. I don’t think they can compete vs a DLS, SRV, Pitt (or a SM Rams, Serra, St. Francis, etc.).

I disagree with the rest of your list. They are going to beat MC this year. They should beat Windsor. But Las Lomas (that was random) and Acalanes? No match.

I have a ton of family and friends at EC. A game against them or Cal would be interesting.
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newman cannot beat anyone that outclasses them in the speed department. almost every team i mentioned qualifies in this category. the other teams i mentioned are teams that can/would/will beat new man at there own game. i do not mean this as disrespect towards how good they are…..for a d 4 team.

what i will disrespect them for however is allowing that flagrantly racist coach to continue on in employment after he got exposed. and not only that, they even went so far as to punish the people who blowed the whistle. shows that they are completely devoid of morals and class as a program and as an institution.

ncs needs to do the right thing step in and either ban new man from playoff competition until they clean it up or just make them play de la salle in the first round every year with no loser plays on so they can just be cannon fodder. programs like that should not have the opporunity to represent ncs at the state level.

but then again this is the bay area. schools and coaches can treat people as racist as they want with zero consequences for anyone other than the people who blow the whistle. i could name ten other schools that do the same thing.
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NCP Pick'em Week 5 Games

Streak One
FBAddict takes the week with a perfect 55. Gunn over Monta Vista tripped up plenty of us. Also, Liberty's comeback over Amador Valley also raised some scores too.

Scores go final at 12:00 PM on Monday

Central Catholic beat Patterson 25-14
Folsom beat Rocklin 51-14
Cardinal Newman beat Bishop O’Dowd 56-0
Downey beat Edison 35-20
San Marin beat Casa Grande 39-27
Liberty beat Amador Valley 35-28
San Ramon Valley beat McClymonds 51-14
Gunn beat Monta Vista 28-0
Wheatland beat Bear River 27-7
Santa Teresa beat Hillsdale 17-0

FBAddict 55
Kiddman32 54
SearsPoints 54
Irish_Cheers 53
Streak One 53
Thehookup55 53
Ycgaucho 53
MC415 53
Bulldogmgc 53
THEOC89 53
EN_FB_Alum 52
WCAL88 52
Bella123 52
RLS13 51
Espot 51
Folsom77 51
Dlew66 51
NorCalSportsFan 51
209Tides 51
Macallan 50
Cal 14 50
Sweetjfromthebay 49
Moist and Plump 45
H.E.A.T. 45
M.C. Fan 45
Norcalguy111 45
The Heat Miser 44
Sacchiefs 40
Carlmerritt 37
ArmchairGOAT 33

Yearly Top 10:

1. THEOC89 232
1. Kiddman32 232
3. FBAddict 230
4. Thehookup55 228
5. NorCalSportsFan 227
5. Bulldogmgc 227
7. Cal 14 224
8. Streak One 223
9. The Heat Miser 222
10. Irish_Cheers 220
10. SearsPoints 220
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ArmchairGOAT said:
Who you got?
Week 1 - WCAL
Friday, Sept 27th
  • Serra @ St. Ignatius 35-17
  • Bellarmine @ St. Francis 42-7
Saturday, Sept 28th
  • Sacred Heart Cathedral @ Archbishop Riordan 49-14
  • Archbishop Mitty @ Valley Christian 28-14
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SI pulling off the upset to beat Serra 30-28
(I'm a homer! What did you expect?)
St. Francis over Bells 42-7
Riordan over SHC 35-7
Mitty over VC 21-14
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larry legend33 said:
Yeah, I think they opened up some eyes. Like @northbaybbguru said... Sanchez has never had a great QB. Cronin had D1 Qb's for about a decade in a row. It has been the tougher position to fill at newman but Sanchez has one now. Newman's biggest weakness is there overall roster size. These true Open and D1 schools go 50-55+ and the backup kids are very good. Newman is thin just a function of there school size. They probably have 35-37 on roster with lots of 2 way guys. Newman's best teams always could play with St Mary's of Stockton. In fact I recall newman great Jordan Brookshire getting stopped on a goal line stand by rams at Newman to end the game. I have no doubt Newman can play with St Mary's. DLS and Pitt would be a very tall order but St Mary's nearly knocked off DLS..... Lots of season left and we still need to get by a few good schools. Pleasant Valley of Chico will be good. I'm not looking past them but overall outlook is bright.
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I could be shorting them. Again, they are very good. Maybe they can hang with the top NorCal programs this season. Spoke with a few of their parents and backers. They all said “this is their year.”
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colhenrylives said:
The closure of Mercy-SF gave Riordan the go-ahead to become a coed outfit. The move has gone a very long way toward saving the school, along with the boarding component which generates big excess dollars that can be used for the school's operations. The plan is working.
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I wouldn’t be shocked if Salesian is the next school to board students. And if I am not mistaken my alum SHC has one brother left, might be 2, but pretty sure it is one in the brothers house. Salesians house is in Berkeley.

However back in the late 80’s and early 90’s football wasn’t much of an attraction as guys had to trek out to the Polo fields daily for practice. And although we now have a 60 yard practice field, I don’t ever foresee the school being able to attract a ton of talent versus schools like Riordan, SI, and Serra, where athletes literally get to hit the field the minute school is over.
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dlew66 said:
I disagree…sorta. CN is that good. I’ve played/watched a ton of football and these guys are real. My grandson is a sophomore/starting DT at BOD and he held his own out there, but he said these are some of the best guys he’s played against…ever. He’s been playing high level football for 10 years.

These CN young men have been playing together for years. I remember several of them from the Redwood PAL Golden Bears youth football league. They’ve been beating the brakes off of teams for a while.

They remind me of the mid-80s Skyline High School squads that had Brian Johnson (Stanford/Detroit Tigers) at QB. Simple plays but great execution, big active line, speed at the skilled positions, and a few D1 guys. The OAL didn’t go to the NCS playoffs back then at the end of the season. But their ‘84 squad beat DLS and went undefeated.

They are def an Open team in NCS, unfortunately. This is where I agree with you. I don’t think they can compete vs a DLS, SRV, Pitt (or a SM Rams, Serra, St. Francis, etc.).

I disagree with the rest of your list. They are going to beat MC this year. They should beat Windsor. But Las Lomas (that was random) and Acalanes? No match.

I have a ton of family and friends at EC. A game against them or Cal would be interesting.
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Yeah, I think they opened up some eyes. Like @northbaybbguru said... Sanchez has never had a great QB. Cronin had D1 Qb's for about a decade in a row. It has been the tougher position to fill at newman but Sanchez has one now. Newman's biggest weakness is there overall roster size. These true Open and D1 schools go 50-55+ and the backup kids are very good. Newman is thin just a function of there school size. They probably have 35-37 on roster with lots of 2 way guys. Newman's best teams always could play with St Mary's of Stockton. In fact I recall newman great Jordan Brookshire getting stopped on a goal line stand by rams at Newman to end the game. I have no doubt Newman can play with St Mary's. DLS and Pitt would be a very tall order but St Mary's nearly knocked off DLS..... Lots of season left and we still need to get by a few good schools. Pleasant Valley of Chico will be good. I'm not looking past them but overall outlook is bright.
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For your consideration (and taking into account the differences in SOS throughout), here are the composite (varsity, JV and frosh) standings for the eight WCAL entrants as they prepare for the start of league play this week (according to WCAL website):

1. Mitty, 8-1
2 SHC (no frosh team), 5-1
3. Valley Christian, 6-2
4. St. Fancis, 6-3
5. St. Ignatius, 4-5
6. Riordan (no frosh team), 2-3
8 (tie) Serra/Bellarmine 2-8
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MOlST AND PLUMP said:
how about we pump the breaks on new man until they beat someone with a pile. they won’t be put in the open because there are many teams that are more gooder then they are.

in no particular order

de la salle

pittsburg

el cerrito (guarantee they would beat new man head to head)

san ramon valley

marine catholic (will beat them head to head mark my words)

california

acalanes

las lomas (don’t believe me watch there qb he’s the next superstar bay area qb)

windsor (completely unstoppable run game)

and that’s just off the top of my head. teams like liberty and clayton valley might be better too though i would also hold off on them until they beat a real team. gotta to have a consistent “standard”
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I disagree…sorta. CN is that good. I’ve played/watched a ton of football and these guys are real. My grandson is a sophomore/starting DT at BOD and he held his own out there, but he said these are some of the best guys he’s played against…ever. He’s been playing high level football for 10 years.

These CN young men have been playing together for years. I remember several of them from the Redwood PAL Golden Bears youth football league. They’ve been beating the brakes off of teams for a while.

They remind me of the mid-80s Skyline High School squads that had Brian Johnson (Stanford/Detroit Tigers) at QB. Simple plays but great execution, big active line, speed at the skilled positions, and a few D1 guys. The OAL didn’t go to the NCS playoffs back then at the end of the season. But their ‘84 squad beat DLS and went undefeated.

They are def an Open team in NCS, unfortunately. This is where I agree with you. I don’t think they can compete vs a DLS, SRV, Pitt (or a SM Rams, Serra, St. Francis, etc.).

I disagree with the rest of your list. They are going to beat MC this year. They should beat Windsor. But Las Lomas (that was random) and Acalanes? No match.

I have a ton of family and friends at EC. A game against them or Cal would be interesting.
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MOlST AND PLUMP said:
yes they are i was just pointing out that mack clymonds beat them because that guy said they were 0-3.

speaking about o dowd - hopefully one day these schools learn that hiring a “coach” with no resume simply because they played in the nfl is a guaranteed way to ensure that your program will absolutely suck for at least 5 years. it never works. looking at you too dublin saint marys berkeley etc cetera.
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Successful Head Coaches are almost always on campus teachers. They actually become part of the campus community and they know how to coach (teach!). Which are sadly becoming more rare in the Bay Area but still relatively coming in Sac/Valley.
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MOlST AND PLUMP said:
yes I know who goes to the school. do you know how the school got the profile it got or how it got the large enroll mint and endow mint in the first place? how the school grew from nothing to the largest boys school in the reason? what got the school to the point where it has a years long waiting list?

hint - it wasn’t robots. like I said. get rid of robots and bellarmine continues on being the excellent school it is. get rid of sports and the school closes its doors withing 5 years.

sports do much more to raise a schools profile then robots. deal with it.
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Sorry you lost me with the “mint” out the gate. Just wow. Enroll mint, endow mint, mint chocolate chip, thin mints, now follow this next one, pepper mint moist and plump patties. You know the super size two for a dollar ones at the corner store across from the US mint. Please confirm if you are a alum of any Catholic school, cause that school should immediteMINT shut the hell down

PS: you want to bet a pack of breath MINTS on this 5 year forecast
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