observer22 said:

My guess is that should they get pulled up, they’d likely be the 3rd or 4th seed, and be on the other side of the bracket than DLS. They’d have to win that bracket and then beat whoever the 2 seed was that loses to DLS in order to advance. So likely they’d have to beat both SRV & Pitt. A tall order, but you never know. For their sake, they’re better off not making the Open.

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

i never said they have never been at the top of the league. i said they are not there now and i stand on business with that. 2018 was a lifetime ago in high school football terms.

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Irish_Cheers said:

You don't know jack sh*

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

the issue is that the robo nerds are standing on the shoulders of the athletic giants that made the school what it is (serra and de la salle are examples - struggled with enrollment, decided to emphasize elite sports, now have waiting lists larger than there current enrollment) and then trying to steal the resources from athletics and claiming there are "more important" things. when the truth is these schools would either be closed, under enrolled, or barely able to exist without sports in the first place.

you can find plenty of private schools with sports and no robotics, but you can't find one with robotics and no sports. the nerds need to remember this and stop biting the hand that literally feeds them and provides the materials for there precious robots.

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HSWIZARD73 said:

You take a lot of shots at Valley. I am a WCAL alum so I back all of our schools. You do realize 2018 Valley was 2nd and 2019 Valley won the league. Sure they have struggled for sure. But don’t put them off like they have never been a real WCAL school.

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

get off max poops and read the newspaper. support local journalism and you might actually get informed in the process.

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

i said the west catholic leagues real teams. valley christian is not in that category.

if you want to go with salinas as your example how about instead of talking about meaningless preseason games talk about the playoffs. here you go this is what it looks like:

47-7 cannon fodder
57-21 cannon fodder
35-31 cannon fodder
did not make playoffs
26-20 cannon fodder lost to OAK GROVE lol
45-27 cannon fodder (only made second round because they got to play a team from monterey in first round)

meanwhile if you want to compare against saint marys (your choice not mine):
17-6 lost in section championship in close game
51-50 lost in first round. literally BEAT DE LA SALLE this year.
51-48 lost in semifinals of a 12 team bracket
did not make playoffs but came within one score of ending dls norcal streak
28-21 loss
52-7 second round loss. cannon fodder

notice all of saint marys losses except one are in extremely close games, in LATER rounds of the playoffs or championship games. and they beat teams from outside their area code to get there.

also. salinas has to play serra, they duck to a lower division or get beat by 50 every time they can't. saint marys chooses to play de la salle and BEATS them or plays them close.

there is no comparison. again you picked these teams as representatives of there leagues not me. happy to break it down for you using different teams if you wish also to show why your league isn't on the list yet.

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

okay fine let’s do this weeks results.

saint mary’s: took de la salle TO THE ABSOLUTE LIMIT

salinas and the rest of the gabilan: stayed in monterey county and beat up on weaker local teams in lower divisions

but the gabilan is supposed to be a top caliber league. when all there teams compete in lower level playoff divisions in a section that uses competitive equity.

make it make sense.

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observer22 said:

I didn’t say 0-4. MaxPreps has them at 0-3. Perhaps the BOD game was omitted from the records?

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larry legend33 said:

Yeah if they are a legit top 4 team in NCS I don't see how they wouldn't be put in the NCS Open/D1 at end of year. Lots of football to be played and Pleasant Valley, Windsor, and MC will all be challenging games. But right now Newman seems to be seperating themselves a little. If they get pulled into Open and win a game or 2 but don't prevail in the lower bracket are they done for season? I guess that is the big ? I have.

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

mack clymonds is 1-3 not 0-4 they absolutely annihilated bishop o dowd

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larry legend33 said:

Yeah if they are a legit top 4 team in NCS I don't see how they wouldn't be put in the NCS Open/D1 at end of year. Lots of football to be played and Pleasant Valley, Windsor, and MC will all be challenging games. But right now Newman seems to be seperating themselves a little. If they get pulled into Open and win a game or 2 but don't prevail in the lower bracket are they done for season? I guess that is the big ? I have.

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Niklas227 said:

Bishop O’Dowd was overrated to start the season along with many other teams.

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observer22 said:

The question is if CN runs the table (as it looks like a distinct possibility, can they be put into the Open/D1 division for NCS? I would doubt it, but isn’t that what an Open Division is for? I know, this one was created so that runner ups to DLS can get to NorCal/state games.

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

mack clymonds is 1-3 not 0-4 they absolutely annihilated bishop o dowd

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Rocknrolus 95361 said:

Where are they to put them? They out grew their leage. They are ACTUALLY a D3 team in a D3 league. Kimball was the only D3 team by enrollment. 3 of the top 10 most successful programs in section. The VOL has been tough league since I was in high school. In my day. Bronze Age. VOL had Tracy, St Mary's and Lincoln. VOL traditionally year in year out tough..
Oh and your prediction Sierra and Mountain House not making play offs? Sierra knocked off East Union.

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observer22 said:

Or Mack (0-3) just doesn’t have the horses this year?

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MOlST AND PLUMP said:

the last time kimball played against patterson kimball put up 60. and kimball has literally never lost to patterson.

and your ignoring the fact that mountain house got added to the league and they are going to be an anchor on the league, as they have yet to find any stability or success as a program and don't look like they will any time soon.

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larry legend33 said:

Other notes that I know people are talking about .... My Cardinal Newman squad looks pretty good.
Beating the life out of ODOWD 56-0 was a big statement. This is coming off a dominant 28-10 win over a solid Vacaville team who nearly beat Granite Bay earlier in the year. This will be a team that has legit bowl aspirations. A few key players you will be reading about.

QB Tino Retamoza 6"2 210 Freshman. Dad was a stud for newman back in the day. This kid will be a terror.
WR/DB- Zion Cargill- 6"0 175 Soph- Athletic WR/DB. Sister was a stud hooper for CN a few years back and played in college.
RB- Jamari Gentry 5"11 175 - SR. - Kid might have some of the best stats in norcal this year at RB. Averaging over 25 yards a carry.
DE Jesse Myers 6"3 255 SR Oregon State Committ a monster all over.
DT/T Kahlio Vaetoe 6"4 290 Soph - Will be a power 5 recruit.

Right now my top 4 NCS
DLS
Pitt (Pitt might be a lot closer to DLS than we think or better)
San Ramon Valley
Newman

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Niklas227 said:

Judging by SRV’s 56-14 win over Mack last night.

SI has been highly overlooked. I smell upset in the air against Serra.

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Niklas227 said:

Yes I am. You guys were outclassed even in a scrimmage.

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Cal 14 said:

I didn't go with Salinas as my main example, although any claims that they don't play teams outside of the CCS has been demonstrated to be blatantly false. Incidentally, they'll also be playing Arroyo Grande out of the Central Section later this year, making 3 intersection games this season.

Nor did I use St. Mary's. By the way, "sans" means without. Pick up a dictionary sometime. Yes. St. Mary's beat DLS. Great. But wasn't that a "meaningless" pre-league game?

The 6 wins against teams rated >15 came in the playoffs for the Gab last year. Those games were from 3 teams. Aside from St. Mary's (which was the point of me mentioning them, as it's clear that went way over your head), no one else from the Tri-City has done much of anything against anyone else of consequence, whether that be in pre-league or in the playoffs. One team does not make a great league.

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about instead of embarrassing yourself further.

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bella123 said:

Your using a scrimmage as a barometer for comparing teams? Seems really solid.

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Niklas227 said:

Menlo Atherton is either overrated or St. Ignatius is highly underrated because while we’re close in the local newspaper rankings. It wasn’t close when both teams scrimmaged a week before the pre-season started.

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