SFcityfan said:

All due respect to SI’s success, it is SI that should be thanking #TheR. Otherwise SI would not be sharing the WCAL crown and still playing “not like us” after there turn around 2nd half vs. #WeR. It is in bad taste to dog out your own DB’s & calling them week🤫🧐😡 But that is the SI way?

IMHO, there are two great tales of the tape in WCAL season final review of league play. Another poster made a very intuitive post that all the open/d1 team have basically (WCAL) beat each other.

So SI needs to appreciate their phenomena's great start, SF needs to stay strong and finish up to be Open Bracket representation of WCAL in State Title Game. #TheR needs to kept a mindful focus of ONE GAME at a time and “do what they can do”. Marching through 1st & 2nd round will not be an easy task. And Serra truly needs to leave it on the field in Coach W milestone win season.

Another point in this season is SHC improving their record by 200%, and planting a flag “that they might NOT be dropping out of league”. To me this is the most significant statement of the WCAL, to be able to accomplish with So little and attempting to give options in The City.

Based on the play off lay out, #TheR has the most to win, SI has the most to lose and Serra can have the most to use Will over Skill to maintain supremacy in the WCAL neighborhoods

I am betting on momentum

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wow jsquare took a happy pill.....nice

we need to take a break on trashing the Bells... their season is over.

I never trust such matchups. Every coach approaches them differently ...

Worth noting that OC played and beat Mitty a few months ago during one of the viewing periods. Mitty's transfers played. OC's new, highly-touted 6'5 center did not. I'm sure Mitty will have learned from that experience, but they don't match up very well.

larry legend33 said:

Thanks Streak.
My thoughts on first 4

D1. OR vs Folsom in rematch of last year with Folsom winning by 21+. OR is playing very well but I don't see anybody challenging Folsom in SJS.
D2. Absolutely the best division. loaded. I don't see Rocklin winning. I was really disappointed with them against OR. In fact they will have a tough time with Manteca. I like St Mary's or Grant to prevail but I'm leaning more toward St Marys.
D3 - Oakdale has played a really good schedule with a recent close loss to Manteca. I think they are in good position to come out ahead.
D4- Twelve Bridges rolls. Probably time for them to move up a div or 2.

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Placer I know is looking forward to a 2nd game this yr vs Twelve Bridges,like West Park maybe TB should move up a division or 2,they have had an enormous amount of success these first couple yrs of their existence.

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Streak One said:

Here is the postseason playoff pick'em. Prizes will be for the weekly winner each week (no rollover scoring) will be a free month subscription to NorCalPreps.

Here are the games for this week. Picks are due by 7:00 PM on Friday. The Game of the Week is Turlock-Central Catholic. First tiebreaker is who goes the longest without missing a game (Player A's first loss came on the 6 point game and Player B's first loss is the 8 point game, Player A wins the tiebreaker). Tiebreaker #2 is the winning team's score in the game of the week. Tiebreaker #3 is the losing team's score in the Game of the Week.

Turlock at Central Catholic
Destiny Christian at Christian Brothers
East Union at Patterson
Windsor at Casa Grande
Cardinal Newman at Marin Catholic
Vintage at Liberty
Soquel at Riordan
Los Gatos at Serra
Menlo at Christopher
Shasta at Enterprise

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10. Liberty
9. Christian Brothers
8. Central Catholic (28-21)
7. Christopher
6. Riordan
5. Serra
4. Cardinal Newman
3. Windsor
2. Shasta
1. Patterson

10) Serra
9) Patterson
8) Windsor
7) Enterprise
6) Liberty
5) Cardinal Newman
4) Riordan
3) Menlo
2) Central Catholic (20-17)
1) Destiny Christian

NorCalSportsFan said:

Not really homer glasses....

Calpreps has Palma beating Carmel 38-35 (58%) reg season and with playoff bump 40-31 (78%) in neutral fields

Salinas beats Carmel 33-28 (86%)no playoff bump

Soquel beats Carmel 44-17 (96%) and 28-14 with playoffbump 998%)

Strange is Monterey is favored by 1 but not having QB would put them at bigger disadvantage (even though Carmel won in reg season its tough to win against a team twice in a season)

Carmel has 7 and 8pt (playoff) advantage on Hollister and bigger advantage on Aptos.


Carmel defense is its issue from what I have seen. A good ball control team can keep ball out of the Carmel offense which is pretty good and decent defense will slow them down. Take Pacific Grove as an example but most teams in Gab have better defenses. Yes- rivalry game and Carmel was asleep the first half, but PG isn't very good. If they had a better defense I would say should be clear advantage over Palma but they don't. Palma is young but when they play their best games they are tough. They have talent on both sides of the ball. Not saying they will win, but not a given and I think they would match up better.

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Calpreps predictions are the reason I stopped submitting picks in the weekly contest. I used it for teams I had no clue about and loss them all. Point is it's a computer generated prediction based on data. It only meas so much. I'm sure Calpreps had Palma and Salinas beating Carmel in all their other regular season matchups in the past years too.

Give me Carmel 48- Palma 24 all day 😂

The "Golden Era" (pun intended), of Carmel football has always been an outscore you mentality. They play a very blitz happy big play style of defense, and quite frankly can not tackle to save their lives. It has been like that ever since Golden took over the program. He does not like kids to go both ways so majority of top athletes played offense first. But come playoffs he will have kids play on both sides for much longer stretches.

I stand by my statement that Carmel would finish 2nd or 3rd, they already beat the third place team at full strength, and I see them matching up pretty well with Salinas. This years Palma team is not the same as years past. This Carmel team probably wins 7 out of 10 times same with Hollister and Aptos.

I will say this though, Carmel's teams are not used to playing that physical style of football week in and week out, even Alvarez will play physical with you. Carmel doe not have the roster depth the other Gabilan teams have, so 1 or 2 key injuries, and it is a very different team.

Gabilan would of been way more fun this year if Carmel was in it!!

Thanks for the early view.

Not really homer glasses....

Calpreps has Palma beating Carmel 38-35 (58%) reg season and with playoff bump 40-31 (78%) in neutral fields

Salinas beats Carmel 33-28 (86%)no playoff bump

Soquel beats Carmel 44-17 (96%) and 28-14 with playoffbump 998%)

Strange is Monterey is favored by 1 but not having QB would put them at bigger disadvantage (even though Carmel won in reg season its tough to win against a team twice in a season)

Carmel has 7 and 8pt (playoff) advantage on Hollister and bigger advantage on Aptos.


Carmel defense is its issue from what I have seen. A good ball control team can keep ball out of the Carmel offense which is pretty good and decent defense will slow them down. Take Pacific Grove as an example but most teams in Gab have better defenses. Yes- rivalry game and Carmel was asleep the first half, but PG isn't very good. If they had a better defense I would say should be clear advantage over Palma but they don't. Palma is young but when they play their best games they are tough. They have talent on both sides of the ball. Not saying they will win, but not a given and I think they would match up better.

There are a number of interesting story lines and we could see politics play a bigger role than normal this year.

North:

1. What to do about Folsom? Their early season loss to Serra could put them behind either/both St. Ignatius or St. Francis due to those teams' wins over the Padres. I don't suspect that the CCS Open winner would be placed in D-1AA, but you could see Pittsburg moved up and the Bulldogs placed in D-1A.

2. SJS lack of competitive playoff equity on full display, now looks like a significant outlier. Any push by the selection for divisional integrity may fall on deaf ears with Twelve Bridges (D-4) and Bradshaw Christian (D-6) rated higher than Oakdale (D-3).

3. What to do about McClymonds? The CIF voters have steadily moved the Warriors to higher divisions until they pretty much settled on having them be in D-2A. This year, however, has not been a typical year for the Oakland team. Would the committee be willing to drop them all the way down to D-4A?

4. What to do about Clovis East? As was the case last year, numerically, it would make more sense to place the CS D-IAA winner in the south, as not doing so places a heavy advantage for the north in all divisions lower than D-1AA. Placing them in the south creates more parity down the list. I doubt the committee has learned its lesson and will probably keep this division in the north.

South:

1. There seems to be more of a drop-off in ratings in the SS than last year. This could lead to a greater advantage for the north, particularly if the CS D-IAA winner remains absent from the south bracket.

2. What to do about the Bakersfield schools? I'm guessing the CS may do some politicking to make sure their D-IA winner is in a higher bracket than the D-II team. I'm also guessing that the ratings could reverse in order with the IA bracket being tougher overall. Did not notice that these two were in the same league, won by Bakersfield Christian. Swapping them in the list.

3. Retaining intersectional play. In the past, the SS seems to have lobbied to keep their teams from having to eliminate each other in the regional round. This year, they may mostly get this wish granted as the ratings do seem to fall in-line for this to happen. In only one division did there not really seem to be a choice but to have two SS teams face each other.

4. It remains remarkable how low the LACS teams need to be placed among the state brackets. Much of this has to do with the fact that just about everyone and their mothers gets to advance to the playoffs, but as I've noted in previous posts, the section just isn't good at all.

Overall:

1. If all of the section winners elect to participate in the CIF bowl games, we will have complete brackets in both the north and the south. It was not uncommon in years past to have a team have a bye in the regional round.

2. I have five of the seven Central Section teams competing in the south. In addition to the need for more moderately-rated teams in that region, it also balances out and completes the brackets in both regions.

True, might have been very different for DLS if JP2 HS had opened. But ya never know, maybe things would have remained the same, or close to it.

At least the numbers would have been different... Right now, the DLS campus is bursting at the seams. Original plan was for 500 boys and they have over twice that. Even with the fact they've managed to squeeze more buildings into that campus, my guess is classes are very full, though I've never toured the campus during classes (obviously, I'm not some sort of creep and I'm wayyyyyyyyy too old to try and be a student)

northbaybbguru said:

Ill take CC as she has already proven her rookie year that she can cut it in the WNBA. 1st team All WNBA is pretty darn good not to mention the assist records and such. She's a force that will only get better.

Look i know Juju is good but she's just in college and there is no guarantee she will succeed at the WNBA level. There have been plenty of All Americans that for whatever reason just didn't work in the pros.

Give me the proven commodity rather than the potential.

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I was more mentioning the score. I have no idea about wnba and their abilities

ClayK said:

I heard some interesting comments about JuJu, but can't verify because I haven't watched enough: She's most dangerous after getting a rebound and heading downcourt. Better in transition than in sets. Also very right-hand dominant.

I'll be watching more closely this year.

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She sounds like me!

colhenrylives said:

A note in wake of WCAL season: Install the SHC QB at SI, SF, VC or Serra and we might be having an entirely different discussion. That kid appears to be the real deal.

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Sargent statistically has had a magical season for SH. However Ray-John Spears who led the state title team was a better all-around QB in my opinion. But not by that much. I did not expect Sargent to do much running in the RPO this season, but surprisingly he has put up some good running numbers to go along with his passing.

He broke the school passing yards record despite missing Flannigan and Jenkins for a few games. Zion Secrese, Tion Williams and Jared Camara all have stepped up. All hopefully are back next year except Flannigan (graduation).

Irish just need to add more OL/DL depth. Appears Coach Evans can get skilled guys to come and play for him. He just needs more bruisers to come as well.

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Again, everything's written in sand ...

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Good one

123ag3 said:

Well if you know anything about CCS playoffs, then you would know that in the 22-23 school year, there were no CCS open divisions in those 4 sports. So DI is the highest they could be in basketball and soccer, and DII is the second highest for baseball and football. 1 point away from a state championship, at any division, is pretty relevant.

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All I know is The Bells are known for Winning the WCAL and the Top Level of CCS and beating Folsom to play in a Top level SBG, That is Relevant….

Scraping in the playoffs as a 4 win team, beating a bunch of lower level teams and then playing the 50th or something ranked team is So Cal is no kind of State Championship and irrelevant…..

Baseball and Basketball, you have a point…. But FB is so watered down and everyone makes the playoffs so WCAL league titles are what make you Relevant….