colhenrylives said:

The DLS case is somewhat different. It does not have to deal with another parochial school within its area, or even all that close whatsoever. It's really the only papal ballgame from Highway 680 all the way east to Highway 5. There is no WCAL for DLS to worry about. Heck, there isn't much of any private school competition at all. Not even an SHP, Menlo School or King's Academy. The Central Coast Section is awash with non-public programs. DLS is immune to that issue. Not a bad way to live _ and thrive.

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Don’t forget about John Paul II High School in Livermore? Opening date 2008. Going to siphon kids from DLS. Actually, never mind.

As always, matchups are tentative. Teams have cancelled the week before in the past, but here are some highlight matchups:

January 3

@DLS

8:30 a.m.: Carondelet JV vs. Salesian JV (OK, maybe not ... but it's a highlight for me)
2 p.m.: Marin Catholic vs. Pinole
3:30 p.m.: St. Mary's Stockton vs. Los Gatos
8 p.m.: South Medford (OR) vs. Acalanes

@Carondelet

5 p.m.: Mitty vs. St. Joseph (Santa Maria)
6:30 p.m.: Etiwanda vs. Carondelet
8 p.m.: Millennium (AZ) vs. Ontario Christian

January 4

@DLS

5 p.m.: Pinewood vs. Folsom
6:30 p.m.: McClatchy vs. Riordan

@Carondelet

3:30 p.m.: Ontario Christian vs. Mitty

Again, everything's written in sand ...

kiddman32 said:

Doesn't matter if the principal or the AD knew about it or not. If they didn't know about it, then they weren't doing their job.

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Well, Rincon was the AD, along with the HC. Definitely knew what he was doing

djgaucho said:

In this case Rincon is both the AD and Football coach so maybe he should no longer be athletic director and just the football coach if they decide to keep him around.

Secondly my understanding is that transfers after the coach and AD approve the transfer papers they go to the principal for approval before the paperwork is sent to NCS/CIF for final approval.

Coach was suspended the 3rd game of the season so I assume that's when it was discovered.

De Anza forfeited EC's final game so they had an intrasquad scrimmage Friday night and Coach Rincon was back with the team coaching on the sideline don't know if that meant he would be allowed back or if that was them allowing him a last moment with his players.

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Oh ok, so Rincon being the AD and Head Coach says it all

LWinslow1973 said:

Not conddescending at all, if i said Riordan education sucks that would be condescending. I made a statement that comparing GPA's between schools is not a reliable comparison given different schools have different academic standards and make different exceptions for athletes depending on the school. Bellarmine has historically made ZERO exceptions for those students. So while i understand your belief that Riordan has academic standards compariable to Bellarmine I simply do not know that to be the case.

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My point is boys mature later than girls. Just because some have B's and C's in grammar school doesn't mean they will remain B and C students in HS. Also, many kids have learning disabilities that many times go undiagnosed and just seen as the kid is slow. I'm just saying the academic standards are offered in a different way with many times the same successful result. My question re Bellarmine is that enrollment is still strong at 1,600 all boys. What's changed in seeing the football and basketball programs on a downward trend? One thing I noticed over the past few seasons are many Bell student athletes transferring out. That was unheard of in the past. I do believe a strong Bellarmine football program is good for the entire league.

sylvan said:

Kingston clawed through the Cats for 200+ yards.

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SI gave the rest of the league the blueprint to stop Kingston like we did in the 1st half of our game.

Unfortunately, business decisions were made on the field by our DB’s that allowed him to run wild in that 2nd half.

So, you’re welcome Riordan! 😂

Well if you know anything about CCS playoffs, then you would know that in the 22-23 school year, there were no CCS open divisions in those 4 sports. So DI is the highest they could be in basketball and soccer, and DII is the second highest for baseball and football. 1 point away from a state championship, at any division, is pretty relevant.

silliman said:

Newark Memorial is looking for a Girls JV home game on Friday, December 20, 5:30 pm, at Newark Memorial High School, 39375 Cedar Boulevard, Newark.

Open until filled.

Contact Coach Darryl Reina at darryl14r@aol.com

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Thank you to Dublin High School for filling the spot.

ArmchairGOAT said:

@LWinslow1973, that a pretty condescending statement. As an inner city school, Riordan offers an AP path, college prep and HS curriculums. Its RSP program is a pioneer in NorCal and recognized as one of the best and addresses kids with learning disabilities. Also, the kids that Riordan has sent off to 4 year schools are kids of color- many the first in their familes to go to college - including the Ivy league and military academies - West Point and Air Force.

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Not conddescending at all, if i said Riordan education sucks that would be condescending. I made a statement that comparing GPA's between schools is not a reliable comparison given different schools have different academic standards and make different exceptions for athletes depending on the school. Bellarmine has historically made ZERO exceptions for those students. So while i understand your belief that Riordan has academic standards compariable to Bellarmine I simply do not know that to be the case.

Kingston clawed through the Cats for 200+ yards.

Great breakdown! Thank you!

jordan24 said:

Can someone provide a break down of Soquel? Impressive record! Looking forward to their match up @ Riordan Saturday.

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I've seen them play a few times this year. Soquel is very well coached. Head coach is former NFL safety Dwight Lowery.

Offense- Junior QB Sam Whelan is the real deal. Athletic and reads the field well. He can make all the throws. He has a great feel for the pocket and will extend plays. No big time weapons at the skill positions. They are all very serviceable. RB #0 is on the smaller side but he runs hard. He can rip off some chunk plays. OL isn't anything special in terms of size, but they can grind you out. They run a conservative offense and like to take their shots down field at the right time. Passing game is a lot of roll outs and flood route concepts. Whelan will throw across his body into traffic.

Defense- They are tough on defense. Their corners play extremely aggressive. They disguise well. They aren't afraid to leave them on an island in coverage. #13 and #9 are dogs. They will get in your WRs face and be physical. The DL is quick and athletic. Not a lot of size. LBs attack downhill. #6 is a good DE with good size. They contain well. Very disciplined. They don't look like anything special. Lowery has them prepared though.

STs- This is their weak spot. They don't have much of a kicker from what I have seen. Punter is one of the CBs. Salinas blocked a punt and got really close to blocking another.

Plain and simple don't judge them on how they look. They are legit. Should be a good game.

Niklas227 said:

I couldn’t tell by their play that Riordan had a former NFL NT as a D-Line coach. 😏

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Let's ask Kingston Keanaaina who had the better coached Defensive Line, I bet he could give you 212 reasons why it wasn't SI's, For The Win 🙃😝

Another good matchup: Carondelet hosting Etiwanda on Friday 1/3 at 630 pm

Can someone provide a break down of Soquel? Impressive record! Looking forward to their match up @ Riordan Saturday.

Agreed. It was obvious from the end of last year Carmel should have been in Gabilan this year and Alvarez in the Mission. I understand Carmel is a smaller public school, but this years senior class is very special and it was evident last year. They probably finish 2nd or third in the Gabilan this year.

salgovernaleisaturtle said:

as i study it more, looking at the enrollment page:
the entirety of D2 is comprised of small D1 league schools and large D3 league schools.

laguna creek is the smallest D1 school (except for Central Catholic) at 2030. there are 10 D2 schools bigger than LC. Vacaville is the first D2 enrollment school at 2020, Grant is next at 2017, but locked into D2 presumably cuz of the D3 blowback last year... they are technically a bubble school... D2/3 enrollment in a D3 league. then the rest of the division are all the smaller D1 league schools, except for Manteca.. arguably D3 enrollment, but locked into D2.

So the way I see it, the entire division was locked in due to division, except for Vacaville, Grant (bubble) and Manteca (continued success?.. not sure why they are in D2)

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Manteca went to D2 on continued success.

You are onto something with the shuffling between D1 and D2. A lot of those D1 schools that are now the bigger D2 schools got shuffled lower because they were taking up too much space in D1 while D2 was so loaded that teams of better quality were simply not making the playoffs. Laguna Creek specifically complained about this. For a couple years they were beating D1 schools like McClatchy during the regular season in the Metro league, but were getting locked out of the playoffs in D2 while McClatchy made it in D1. Cosumnes Oaks got stuck like that as well at some point, but I don't remember the specifics.

RLS13 said:

I have been a way for the past few days so sorry did not respond sooner. My statement was based on Palma losing to Alvarez, they stepped up and won the game. Had they lost I felt it was not right that both them and Hollister would bypass Alvarez.

As @Cal 14 explained those are the rules, and while I understand and appreciate them, just did not sit well that Alvarez would finish in 5th place and be bypassed by the 6th and 7th place teams. CCS still has the "best" playoff format (imo), but they or the PCAL should have an ability to make a switch if necessary. Just my 2 cents.

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If PCAL had done the right thing and placed Alvarez in a B league this year, they probably compete for a league title and playoff spot.

Macallan said:

Folsom will boat race Downey. No...it won't be close. No...Downey does not have a shot. With any other team in SJS D1, I would say that Downey (at the minimum) has a puncher's chance, if not a dominating win ahead of them. Downey is a good football team. With that said, if Downey can keep the game within three TD's, that should be considered a "win" for Downey.

Also:
Fri 11/15 Folsom (CA) vs Downey (Modesto, CA), 7:00pm
I Playoffs
projection and percent chances to win: Folsom (CA) 62 (>99%) Downey (Modesto, CA) 17 (<1%)

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Go Knights!

as i study it more, looking at the enrollment page:
the entirety of D2 is comprised of small D1 league schools and large D3 league schools.

laguna creek is the smallest D1 school (except for Central Catholic) at 2030. there are 10 D2 schools bigger than LC. Vacaville is the first D2 enrollment school at 2020, Grant is next at 2017, but locked into D2 presumably cuz of the D3 blowback last year... they are technically a bubble school... D2/3 enrollment in a D3 league. then the rest of the division are all the smaller D1 league schools, except for Manteca.. arguably D3 enrollment, but locked into D2.

So the way I see it, the entire division was locked in due to division, except for Vacaville, Grant (bubble) and Manteca (continued success?.. not sure why they are in D2)

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colhenrylives said:

That may have been valid early in the season. Not so much now. Riordan's overall D, including line play, has shown marked improvement lately. Hence its two excellent wins over Serra and St. Francis.

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The Crusaders held the Lancer’s Kingston to < 100 yards.

EN_FB_Alum said:

The way the SJS does continued success, there will always be a weak Div 1. No team above D1 can move down into the bracket when lower divisions get bumped up like in the lower divisions. The lower divisions will have teams being bumped down as well as teams getting bumped up due to continued success.

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I think you are saying that if you are a large school, you are locked into D1, even if you suck year after year; because of enrollment. So that dilutes the D1 pool. is that right?

cuz actually, the way they set it up this year, you can't play 2 above your league division. so all of the sjaa (D3 league) large schools were locked into D2. You have Central Valley HS, a D1 size, in a D4 league, locked into D3.

so, in another small nod to competitive equity, when they realigned this year, competitive equity was a factor... at least to try to get historically noncompetitive athletic schools into similar lower division leagues.

but you are right, your league division is the first criteria.. so large schools in D1 or D2 leagues can't go lower than D1. So a school like Davis at the 3rd biggest school, in a D1 league, and a crappy football team, is stuck.

H.E.A.T. said:

Just curious why you for years have been praising , anointing Salesian when they have had loaded teams for years and after 12 years they finally one their first open Game

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Nah, your wrong. Great program, great coaching, and they get most out of their kids. They rarely have anybody who is even close to a 4 star player. Been a good decade + since Jabari Bird. Don't look in the rear view mirror. There program is on the rise and will continue to be. Go Pride.

ChewpaMiverga said:

Tough shit. I don’t care if this was Rincon’s bright idea, administration should have never been asleep at the wheel like they were and that begins with the Principal. You’ve allowed your coaches to sell kids the idea that EC is a great school with a great football program. So now sell them on the same things plus a 3 year ban.

Plus, if you believe this started with out-of-district transfers you’re mistaken. I can assure you this started with the school robbing the 5 other district high schools of their talent. Those schools are a combined 13-32 going into week 11, you don’t believe for a second that every school in the district organically gets dogshit talent but somehow El Cerrito can only lose to a program with a Disney movie, right?

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So let's be clear, they didnt rob other schools in district of their talent I can tell you what I know and that is alot these kids are recruiting kids ½ with all these camps they all know each other and the players from EC are telling kids from other programs how great of a program EC is, that you can win ,play good teams like De La Salle and have a chance at a scholarship. Kids are attracted to that. Just a few years ago when coach Alameda was at Pinole every player in the district flocked to Pinole and when Carter was at Berkeley high everybody flocked to Berkeley High. The adults screwed up trying to get around the transfer rules.Punish the adults not the kids who were legit.

Remember transfers whether in district or out of district aren't illegal as long as you follow the protocol which apparently EC wasn't doing in some cases recently. And it got past the principal.They admitted it and will pay the price 1 year ban 2 year probation in my opinion fair considering a first offense.