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Diaz-Infante (Bellarmine)

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My take is only regarding basketball because that's my jam... But it sorta applies to all sports. Here we go:

Gone are the days when a team just has tryouts with whomever is there and tries to compete. I'm sure this happens some places, but it rarely successful anymore.

It depends what you mean by the term "recruiting".

1) Legal recruiting that should never get you into trouble, like talking to kids during the summer (pref. before their freshman year) is fine. Having camps sponsored by your school (and talking to kids) is fine. (unless funny business occurs)

2) Coaching an AAU team (or summer football, passing leagues, etc.) and getting out-of-area kids to come to your school is shaky, better watch your step carefully.

3) Giving financial aid CAN be shaky, especially if it is found out that non-athletes don't seem to be getting financial aid, red flag...

4) Offering athletic scholarships, a BIG non-no.

Biggest problem with this stuff is negotiating any gray areas.
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Big News. Coach Clink at Chico State Retiring

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Streak One said:
Really big news but not a total shocker. Clink did a great job of building up that program. Chico State won less than eight games in each of hte previous three seasons before he took over
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Agree streak. He did it the right way too.

Its a grind and can really wear on you and family. I'm sure in a few years he will surface somewhere. He's got more in tank !
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Diaz-Infante (Bellarmine)

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Man all these years I could swear I heard Privates didn't recruit. lol
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You heard right - however, I am seeing more recruiting-type language than ever before. And not just from Privates, but Publics as well.

You and I both remember when you even mentioned a preferred school to attend due to a sport was considered recruiting. Now it seems the standards, at least from that strict stance, have relaxed. The Trinity Schools upset the apple cart on that front for California. Now it seem to be less about language and more about technical rules of transfers and recruiting.
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Diaz-Infante (Bellarmine)

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tired of this said:
Long time board reader/poster from back in the day when it all started. Many fun nights following scores and playoff predictions and opinions of many famous posters. I do have a take on the Bellarmine/WCAL situation that clarifies the uncertainty that is out there among readers. I am still deeply involved in WCAL sports and musings. The football situation is an evolution that is worthy of a 30 for 30 on ESPN or a book for that matter. For sure a YouTube podcast type video going into more depth could be warranted. It is fascinating to me. I will save the lengthy preamble for another time and cut to the chase.

Football was dying just a few years ago. Safety issues. Numbers dropping. Moms not happy at all about their boys playing. It might have been a smart bet to not try and build a program up when this barbaric sport might not even be around after one more CTE lawsuit. But the sport has rebounded. Equipment safer. Coaches adopting new practice and teaching styles. It seems to be thriving now. So as it turns out, making the traditional investment in football success to drive school success was a pretty good bet.

Patrick Walsh was building a program at Serra. Doing amazing things. He brilliantly courted the Polynesian community. Played the long game. Obviously it was an amazing success. Patrick deserves all the credit...but part of his vision was having a school buy in and support him via admissions and financial aid. Again...smashing success. 25% of Serra's student body plays FB. Do the math. That is 6 or 7 FB guys in every class taught on campus. Staggering.

Tuition high...close to $30,000 at these schools. Bodies are needed to fill schools. Not the chummy, friendly, united WCAL anymore. Schools fighting for survival. Business decisions in the upper echelons are made....get in or not.

Si builds a junior high school and students matriculate to SI. Affordable options exist due to commitment from admin wing. They break the long standing teacher/coach model and bring in a guy with Mater Dei and USC experience. They are in it for the long run.

Riordan hires a well known coach and takes close to 20 transfers and does the same in basketball. Need to find a way to stay solvent. They go coed. Boarding options. Can they keep it up? I hear of rumblings

SH dips into East Bay. They are young and talented. 20 soph on varsity and 20 more on JV. Decisions are being made. That has often been the SH secret sauce. But they are not willing to be left behind in the City

SF has two perfect coaches in the wings on campus while others struggle with the transition from long time coaches. They dip into Pop Warner world and hire parents who coach those teams. Players follow. Admin on board. Millions invested in facilities. To me the Pop Warner decision and the perfect, traditional, Lancer alums coaching is their secret sauce

VC has a unique and successful financial aid program. After losing kids fleeing Covid for a couple years, they pull lots of south county talent. All these teams are huge upfront. Simple physics. 300lb will handle 180lb

Mitty has some unfortunate luck with coaching transitions and seems to be on solid ground now, except small on the lines. Skill guys are good and actually pretty young. Will they jump in the game? Clock is ticking.

Bells so far refusing to take that step. I am sure coaches are urging them to. Coach should have some clout in situation being a successful, HOF alum. Who knows?

These are business decisions made above FB coaches. Stay in the game or not. I do think it is limited to WCAL world though. Rest of CCS still succeeds with the same equation that we all grew up with. It is the size of the WCAL teams that is off the charts. You either get those guys or you don't. Admissions involved. Financial aid involved. Support by community involved. Sort of an arms race with lots of intrigue
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Man all these years I could swear I heard Privates didn't recruit. lol
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Diaz-Infante (Bellarmine)

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tired of this said:
Long time board reader/poster from back in the day when it all started. Many fun nights following scores and playoff predictions and opinions of many famous posters. I do have a take on the Bellarmine/WCAL situation that clarifies the uncertainty that is out there among readers. I am still deeply involved in WCAL sports and musings. The football situation is an evolution that is worthy of a 30 for 30 on ESPN or a book for that matter. For sure a YouTube podcast type video going into more depth could be warranted. It is fascinating to me. I will save the lengthy preamble for another time and cut to the chase.

Football was dying just a few years ago. Safety issues. Numbers dropping. Moms not happy at all about their boys playing. It might have been a smart bet to not try and build a program up when this barbaric sport might not even be around after one more CTE lawsuit. But the sport has rebounded. Equipment safer. Coaches adopting new practice and teaching styles. It seems to be thriving now. So as it turns out, making the traditional investment in football success to drive school success was a pretty good bet.

Patrick Walsh was building a program at Serra. Doing amazing things. He brilliantly courted the Polynesian community. Played the long game. Obviously it was an amazing success. Patrick deserves all the credit...but part of his vision was having a school buy in and support him via admissions and financial aid. Again...smashing success. 25% of Serra's student body plays FB. Do the math. That is 6 or 7 FB guys in every class taught on campus. Staggering.

Tuition high...close to $30,000 at these schools. Bodies are needed to fill schools. Not the chummy, friendly, united WCAL anymore. Schools fighting for survival. Business decisions in the upper echelons are made....get in or not.

Si builds a junior high school and students matriculate to SI. Affordable options exist due to commitment from admin wing. They break the long standing teacher/coach model and bring in a guy with Mater Dei and USC experience. They are in it for the long run.

Riordan hires a well known coach and takes close to 20 transfers and does the same in basketball. Need to find a way to stay solvent. They go coed. Boarding options. Can they keep it up? I hear of rumblings

SH dips into East Bay. They are young and talented. 20 soph on varsity and 20 more on JV. Decisions are being made. That has often been the SH secret sauce. But they are not willing to be left behind in the City

SF has two perfect coaches in the wings on campus while others struggle with the transition from long time coaches. They dip into Pop Warner world and hire parents who coach those teams. Players follow. Admin on board. Millions invested in facilities. To me the Pop Warner decision and the perfect, traditional, Lancer alums coaching is their secret sauce

VC has a unique and successful financial aid program. After losing kids fleeing Covid for a couple years, they pull lots of south county talent. All these teams are huge upfront. Simple physics. 300lb will handle 180lb

Mitty has some unfortunate luck with coaching transitions and seems to be on solid ground now, except small on the lines. Skill guys are good and actually pretty young. Will they jump in the game? Clock is ticking.

Bells so far refusing to take that step. I am sure coaches are urging them to. Coach should have some clout in situation being a successful, HOF alum. Who knows?

These are business decisions made above FB coaches. Stay in the game or not. I do think it is limited to WCAL world though. Rest of CCS still succeeds with the same equation that we all grew up with. It is the size of the WCAL teams that is off the charts. You either get those guys or you don't. Admissions involved. Financial aid involved. Support by community involved. Sort of an arms race with lots of intrigue
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This post was not intended at all to impune Diaz-Infante, many believed he would be able to turn it around and just watching the product on the field that did not seem likely. I do agree with you that this will require Bellarmine to completely revamp its entire approach and I am not sure that they are built to do that. Great analysis by you though..
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Suggestions for Modifying CCS Play-off rules

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ChewpaMiverga said:
Sir,

What would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a SI win versus Mitty?

What would be the result of a St. Francis win versus Riordan and a Mitty win versus SI?

Lastly. what would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a Mitty win versus SI?

Thanks in advanced.

-Chewpa
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there are endless possibilities - the simple way to do this yourself is that if there is a game with a result different than the proejction (St. Francis and SI win) then the team that was upset will lose two points as they will have one less win and the team that has the upset win will have 2 more points.

In the case where St. Francis losses and SI wins - there will be co-champs and St. Francis will lose an additional 0.75 points and SI will gain an additional 0.75 points. Impossible to tell how it will affect Cal Prep rankings and additional points lost or gained as it is dependent on all the results from the week of all other games.
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Big News. Coach Clink at Chico State Retiring

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Just got the notice. Looks like they hired somebody outside for the athletic director position which was criminal to me given how much Coach Clink gave to that school. I know he wanted that role.

But deep down I think it was more family related as he wants to spend more time watching his son compete in wresting at Cal Poly SLO. Coach Clink is a friend to many of us on here and I wish him the best. He built one of the best D2 programs in the country. I doubt he's done for good. I could see him popping up as an asst D1 down the road but sounds like he's resetting for now.
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Some Names to Know (CCS)

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Lots of returning talent in CCS, not to mention some outstanding newcomers who have transferred in. Here are the returning First Team All-Leaguers from the top leagues.

WCAL 1st Team
McKenna Woliczco, Mitty, '26
Emma Cook, Mitty, '26
Sophia Sanchez, SI, '26

WBAL 1st Team
Ugreat Daniels, Priory, '26
Addie Chan, Priory '26
Vallory Kuelker, Pinewood, '25
Katherine Garr, Pinewood, '25
Caitlyn Kramer, Pinewood, '26
Ruiqi Liu, Menlo, '25
Karen Xin, Menlo, '25

SCVAL 1st Team
Nicole Steiner, Los Gatos, '25
Ashley Childress, Los Gatos, '25
Clara Fan, Monta Vista, '25

PAL 1st Team
Willow Ishibashi-To, Carlmont, '25
Sofia Kwan, Mills, '25
Lita Fakapelea, M-A, '26
Delaney Dorwin, HMB, '25

PCAL (couldn't find)
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