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I was there and Bryce played pretty bad IMO. Sloppy turnovers, bad shooting - pretty sure he only scored 3 points. Moore and Lindsey played a helluva game. I thought the officials were pretty bad as they seemed to let SC push n shove yet when Lincoln pushed back they were called for a foul. Great game though as Lincoln played their hearts out but SC's #25 made two huge plays down the stretch that made the difference.
All 3 officials work junior college men's and q works D2 men's. So they are as seasoned and trained as you can get this time of year. Lincoln gotta learn to body and not push.
 
All 3 officials work junior college men's and q works D2 men's. So they are as seasoned and trained as you can get this time of year. Lincoln gotta learn to body and not push.
I doubt that I'm the only one who thought that Lincoln wasn't helped by the officiating last night. SC is the more talented team and deserved to win but I hated to see Lincoln lose as Lindsey and Moore are really special players and their other starters and reserves played incredibly hard and their fan base represented regardless of how close Stockton is to Sac.
 
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I doubt that I'm the only one who thought that Lincoln wasn't helped by the officiating last night. SC is the more talented team and deserved to win but I hated to see Lincoln lose as Lindsey and Moore are really special players and their other starters and reserves played incredibly hard and their fan base represented regardless of how close Stockton is to Sac.
I'm sure everyone in red felt as such. That's par for the course.
 
objective observer, lincoln got hosed... if 3 calls go their way, i think they win... all in the late 4th.

you have that hook by the SC point guard as he tried to get past lindsay, that they called on lindsay, right at midcourt, clear as day... that was his 4th.
you have the charge block call that should've been called a charge.. the SC pg was out of control, and just threw it up, and they lincoln guy, i think moore, was easily there.
then you have the call where bryce james pulled down the lincoln player from behind, and they called a foul on the lincoln player.

lincoln had a 3-5 point lead most of the 4th, and these calls kept SC in the game.
 
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Refs were probably intimidated that Lebron was right there courtside staring them down. Offered them roles in his next Space Jam movie to give SC more calls.
i spoke with all 3 refs. only 1 is a laker fan, the other two have dub nation and stephanie curry on their facebook. they def hate lebron.
 
objective observer, lincoln got hosed... if 3 calls go their way, i think they win... all in the late 4th.

you have that hook by the SC point guard as he tried to get past lindsay, that they called on lindsay, right at midcourt, clear as day... that was his 4th.
you have the charge block call that should've been called a charge.. the SC pg was out of control, and just threw it up, and they lincoln guy, i think moore, was easily there.
then you have the call where bryce james pulled down the lincoln player from behind, and they called a foul on the lincoln player.

lincoln had a 3-5 point lead most of the 4th, and these calls kept SC in the game.
out of control is not in rule book. you can easily be out of control because the defender caused you to be that way.

the hook, (also not in the rule book) happpened after the illegal contact first by the defender?

if a player pulls down a player, and the defense is called... i call BS
 
out of control is not in rule book. you can easily be out of control because the defender caused you to be that way.

the hook, (also not in the rule book) happpened after the illegal contact first by the defender?

if a player pulls down a player, and the defense is called... i call BS
the guy was out of control well before contact.. he was looking to be bailed out. the defender was in position to take a charge... so the offensive guy initiated all contact. the defender was set.

and hook is a foul, always has been... he initiated the contact with the hook

you call bs that it was called on the defense, or on my interpretation of events?
 
the guy was out of control well before contact.. he was looking to be bailed out. the defender was in position to take a charge... so the offensive guy initiated all contact. the defender was set.

and hook is a foul, always has been... he initiated the contact with the hook

you call bs that it was called on the defense, or on my interpretation of events?
Please don't say set. That's not a thing.
Was he shooting or was it on the dribble?

The 'hook' must impede the defender from moving. If it happens at mid court it's likely defender came closing down or maybe even sliding. Usually that involves a bump which follows by the infamous 'hook'...

Ironically Anthony Moore the dad is a referee. I'll ask him his thoughts
 
Please don't say set. That's not a thing.
Was he shooting or was it on the dribble?

The 'hook' must impede the defender from moving. If it happens at mid court it's likely defender came closing down or maybe even sliding. Usually that involves a bump which follows by the infamous 'hook'...

Ironically Anthony Moore the dad is a referee. I'll ask him his thoughts
he picked up his dribble at the free throw line, threw the ball up behind his body, and took his 2 steps and jumped into the defender waiting for him, head first. you are trying to parse something simple. everyone knows a charge when they see it. the offense ran into the 'set' defender while out of control.
(i don't know how you say 'set' is not a thing. if he's there first, and his feet are set, then he's 'set'. no? you want to use a different word? whatever... but he was not moving when he was barrelled over)

as far as the hook... if the offense uses his elbow to catapult him past the defender, by definition impeding the defender from moving (which in my opinion and the majority of the biased crowd on replay, was moving his feet laterally, and the offense initiated contact with his elbow/arm) that's a foul.

i mean, if you can find the film, watch it. I saw it live and called it correctly live, because it was out in the open and easy to see, and i confirmed it on the replay.... until then...
 
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