Give us one reason why the CCS and NCS would even remotely consider this.
You have a very curious (or perhaps just rationalized) definition of what a blowout is. 8 points is your threshold? Seriously? If you want to see what real blowouts look like, take a look at the NCS playoffs.
Ok, here’s your reason: Because it would be much better for the players, coaches and fans. I didn’t say this “would” happen…I said it “should happen”.
I was using 2 scores or more. Ya thats probably a little light haha It allowed me to cherry pick a few games. If we bump it to 17+ points (3 score game), you only pick up 4 more games. 11/28 games were decided by 17 or less. It might not be a complete destruction but its not a good game. Look at Palma vs Salinas the other week. 34-14 that game was never close. 13 games were decided by 21+. 1/4 of the games the losing team scored 9 points or less. These scores might not be the 50 point blowouts you see else where but they are not competitive games and there is a clear difference in talent on the field. The only division that is competitive is DI.
That is the biggest challenge...What to do with A League type teams that finish 4-6 or 5-5...I think a larger B/C only bracket of 16 teams would be ideal, a 16 team A league bracket, and then an 8 team bracket with those schools that are playing a different sport than the rest of us. Less brackets would allow for putting similar schools together into one bracket, rather than spread out over four different brackets. This is how the NCAA does it for all sports, and I think could be a decent guide.
Divisions are meant to be structured as competitive levels. D-I is supposed to be superior to D-II, which is superior to D-III, etc. Not all sections view it this way as the top team in the SJS has occasionally come from D-II. The division winner is the top team in that competitive bracket, then gets to go on to compete at the state level in a similar competitive bracket.
Perhaps a proposal that only B/C in D5 and no B/C plays above D4. That could do it.
We do talk about this issue every year and while Carmels perfect season is very nice, we do not need to rearrange playoffs for one team. Its been mentioned that 4-6 and 5-5 A teams should not make CCS yet many of those teams would probably beat a 10-0 Carmel in the first round. Isn't that the beef here? I think the system is fairly accurate. If you want a fighting chance a proposal that B/C designated teams are placed no higher than D4 AND A teams are place no lower than D4 could work. Carmel would play in D4 and yes would still have to beat an avg A league team but they wouldn't face a top tier A league team in D2.
There are reasons Carmel is the one program crying every year. First CCS gives a dominant advantage to A leagues. How else do teams with losing records make the play offs every year? If you are in an A league you get points like they are giving them away. And 4 auto qualifiers out of 6 or 7 team leagues? That’s like giving out participation trophies. And why is it Carmel that brings up play off equity “every” year? Because they are an 850 student public school that has an outstanding coaching staff and kids willing to commit to being their best. And they make the play offs something like 15 out of the last 20 years. Tell me the truth, do you think Salinas would be happy to be in D2 if you had a pool of just 425 boys to fill out your team from? Going into the playoffs knowing that the only reason you are in D2 is because of the structure of the playoff system and not because you had a realistic chance of winning 3 games against top tier large public schools or private school football factories.
Ok stop. Play real teams. 5-5 A teams would handle 10-0 carmel. You make playoffs 15/20 years; great. So go play A league teams and find out. And CCS should give the advantage to A league teams; its an equity based model meaning the best play the best. 10-0 B teams are not the best. Sorry not sorry. You all do not need to apply for CCS playoffs if you don't like it.
You don't think Salinas belongs in D-I with the WCAL powers? They are the powerhouse team of Monterey County and they have one of the highest enrollments in the section. Take Serra out of the equation and who would you cry about them playing? They are winning the lottery avoiding DI.
You have hit upon one solution - in an equity-based system, it makes lots of sense to schedule some tougher teams in preleague to help balance your own equity. When it is likely Carmel has a good shot at winning PCAL-MS league and get the auto bid, it will not hurt to lose some preleague games to temper the team for what they KNOW will be encountered in playoffs.
Works both ways, really. If you lose to the A teams, it drops you to a lower division. If you beat those teams, you should have confidence you can compete at a D-III level.
Tell us how you really feel about the "other" Padres?
Yes, lets reward teams who are barely .500, and some who are below it, by putting them into the playoffs. And let's further reward them by not just putting them in the playoffs, but putting them into a lower division so that they can run ruffshed on lower tier teams. Haha. Sounds brilliant.
Agree with your post. Just wanted it stated that the players could really careless what division they play in. They're not afraid of playing. Wherever they get placed, they will be well prepared by the coaching staff and will compete as best they can. For 99.9% of them, this is it, as far as football goes, so to them any extra games outside of the regular season is bonus football.
There are only a few bad apples in the cart of HS coaches but Golden Anderson is not one of them. He is a very good coach, raising a lot of youth to the next level of responsible adulthood. Our top-down fanhood view cannot take the place of excellent coaches who give their all for the betterment of these young adults. We give the armchair coach view. But the real coaches, like coach Anderson, know exactly what they are doing. They can certainly improve in the CCS environment but we can only give suggestions from the 50,000 ft level.
I have no actual problem with the school or team, just the sense of entitlement from those near the program (not you).
B-league champions are candidates for promotion to A leagues. Some grab hold of that opportunity (see Monterey and Soquel), while others wilt. These 5-5 and 4-6 A teams are the ones against which they'll be expected to compete in subsequent years.
I suspect he meant in one-off games.
lol just a one game scenario.... they would then need 2 weeks to recover from the pounding
I believe Leland received the 4th AQ in the Mount Hamilton. After the 3 way was decided. It went to head to head vs Oak Grove and Leland beat Oak Grove.
AR has the apparent advantage at least until the final round when D-O 2nd team moves to D1. That being said, most teams in D1 seem to be operating at their highest level of the season. It should be a great fight toward the CCS D1 championship.
U r very ON POINT @ArmchairGOAT & @FBAddict
