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Folsom #1 team in the state!

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I know this will ruffle some feathers. And that is it's intent. So, here goes...

DLS gave up a HUGE amount of points to Centennial last night. From what I saw on tape and heard on these forums, you guy's made it sound like DLS never gives up a point. Can you imagine how many points Folsom would have put on them!?
Also, Folsom's defense was MUCH BETTER than Centennial's. Did you see how many points that team gave up in the Socal bowl game!? Unbelievable.

Also, I watched DLS have multiple false starts on that "quick snap." First off, they only called a few. There could have been at least 10-15 more. You have to come SET before the ball is snapped. That was ridiculous.

Due to the fact we will never see this game, I will make my prediction...drum roll.............Folsom 65 DLS 52. That my friends, is the truth about that matchup THIS year. Folsom is the best team in CA!

****I also saw more players than I have EVER seen dressed for a football game for DLS. Must be a lot of BART passes on that sideline. Most of them NEVER got into the game. Will they get the same criticism? Doubtful. But as I have said before, the TRUTH IS ALWAYS IN THE TAPE.

Folsom- BEST team in CA!
 
G. What a goof ball. Go ahead and say it cause you don't have to play it!
Why you ask, the Folsom rule
 
C'mon guy's. Take away the extreme bias and think about it. Look how many points Centennial put on DLS. Folsom's offense was MUCH BETTER. Folsom's defense was also MUCH BETTER than Centennial's. DLS could barely throw a 5 yard pass!!!!!!!

Seriously, Folsom beats DLS this year by 10-14 points. I would bet the house on it
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The new rule is called the DLS RULE. Here is how it works...

False start EVERY time on the offensive line, but only gets flagged a few times a game. DLS accepts this and uses it to their advantage. Folks, that is the new DLS RULE!
 
I don't think anyone who watched the D1 and Open games would put their money on Folsom ahead of DLS or Centennial.
 
But please explain your rationale to me.

Folsom's offense was LIGHT YEARS ahead of both teams!!!

Folsom's defense was BETTER than both teams.

So, how in the world could you say DLS or Centennial was better!?
 
G1, boy did you see those big splits by CC? Those splits with the quick twitch speedsters they had running the rock would have given every HS team in america fits including your beloved Folsom team. The only difference is they would have put up 70+ on Folsom. Hate to bust your bubble "G" but Folsom is the 3rd best team in the State of Cali behind DLS and Centennial. Tell your boys from Folsom to schedule a home and away with CC the next few years...
 
Couldn't agree more PGowns, as good as Folson is there's no way they have the team speed to hang with DLS or CC.
 
Speed is one thing. Neither of those teams could throw the ball worth a lick. Folsom never displayed its FULL power in the passing attack this year because they didn't need to.

They would beat both of those teams, by 10-14.

Sorry, it is what it is.

Folsom is #1
 
We will never really know, but I have to beleive that DLS's defense would have looked much better against Folsom then it did against CC. Browning would have felt a lot more pressure then he did vs. Oceanside.

By the way, I think that DLS played a lot of underclassman in this game.
 
Folsom was very good, but DLS's win was better. DLS deserves to be State Champion this year.
 
"Tis better to be quiet, and thought a fool, than to open your mouth, and remove all doubt" applies to you like no other statement anyone could make G. I've read posts from people on this thread, that I respect, who obviously know football. People such as Larry Legend, Thunder Ram, Streak One, ect, ect. Whenever they make a point, they back them up with FOOTBALL points that support their opinions. Such as, to suggest that Folsom's offense is light year's ahead of CC and DLS means that you have no idea of the level of execution exhibited by both teams. As potent as Folsom's offense was they weren't about to put 42 points up on DLS. Why? For one, Folsom doesn't have an athlete the equal of McKinley. Hell, DLS didn't, and yet it wasn't enough for his team to win. As great as Browning is, he is not mobile, and those are the types of QB's that challenge DLS. Actually Folsom's two biggest advantages this year, the ones that rarely gets mentioned, are the fact that their offensive and defensive lines have been overwhelming all year long, and their game planning is second to none. Well against DLS, their advantages would have been negated by the fact that DLS is always as prepared as anyone they play, and the fact that this year's DLS team, has been one of it's best in the trenches, in terms of productivity, and size. I'm sure DLSpop can clarify, if needed. I'm not name dropping or claiming that I know these people. I'm just saying these are people whose football acumen has been exhibited, time and again. Folsom is an awesome football team, and they are to be congratulated for all that they have achieved, but you're not going to find six people outside of Folsom who will say that Folsom is the best team in California this year. Oh, and BTW, I live in the SJS!!
 
You have clearly not watched all of these teams to make a fair comparison. Now that you say you live in the SJS, it makes total sense. You obviously did not go to Folsom, we got that. You are "one of those guys" who probably got blown out by Folsom and comes on here blasting them every time they are mentioned with the likes of DLS.

So, you want football points, here they are.

Folsom's offense was BETTER than both DLS and Centennial. Browning is the best passer in state history and his much more mobile than people give him credit for. Did you not see the Grant game? Grant pressured him all night and he was still able to excel (although not his best game).

Folsom's defense was BETTER than DLS and Centennial. Did you not see how their defensive line dominate EVERY SINGLE game they played. Yes, DLS has a good offensive line. They get off the ball very fast (with a lot of false starts by not fully being "set"). With that being said, they would put some points on Folsom. But, Folsom would also put ALOT of points on DLS.

And please...Next time you post, please use standard paragraphs and grammar. Just by your posts, I can tell you are not college educated and obviously did not graduate from a top tier academic school like Folsom
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As I have said before, THE TRUTH IS ALWAYS IN THE TAPE. Please go watch it.
This post was edited on 12/21 11:53 AM by G61
 
Open Division champ gets the crown - Spartans are state champs. No questions about it.

As far as Folsom and DLS - who wins? I think Folsom defense would probably do a little better than Centennial but also think Spartan defense would matchup better against the Folsom offense. Folsom playmakers don't have close to the disruptive speed of Centennial. I think a game between Sparta and Folsom would be closer than last year, but both teams are better and Sparta is probably a 2 TD favorite. Sparta ground game would take the ball out of Folsom offense and Folsom scoring drives would take more time than CCs. Would give Spartans a couple of turnovers like last time and Sparta. Sparta wins by a couple TDs.

I think a game between Centennial and Folsom would be interesting.
 
Your profile says you are from Pleasanton!?

Again, proves my point.

Bay area bias. Please look at the tape. Look at it neutrally and objectively.

Can someone also answer me... How many of those kids on the DLS sideline, actually RESIDE in the City of Concord?
 
"Did you not see how their defensive line dominate (sic) EVERY SINGLE game they played."
"Browning is the best passer in state history and his (sic) much more mobile than people give him credit for."

If you are going to critique grammar and style, best to make sure you've proofread your own drivel.

And for the love of God, when you resort to the tired and baseless "DLS False Start" mantra, you don't bolster your credibility.

You think Folsom's offense was "BETTER." Most reasonable people who watched both games don't.
 
G. What a goof ball. Go ahead and say it cause you don't have to play it!
Why you ask, the Folsom rule

again.... pac 5 rule
 
The biggest difference I saw between Folsom and DLS/CC is the speed on the edge for both teams over Folsom.Folsom is great no doubt but are lacking in speed compared to these two.DLS had trouble in the first half because they had not seen the type speed that CC has and were taking really bad angles on tackling.As a result a lot of missed tackles.Once they adjusted in the second half their D was much better.Folsom has a stout front 7 but I believe DLS would have success up the middle and the speed of Custer on the edge would be a problem.Close game but I take both DLS and CC over Folsom.
 
The false start stuff is hardly "baseless." Go look at the penalties last night. There could have been many more called. In fact, Centennial alerted the refs before the game to look for it because it was so obvious on film.

And if you honestly think DLS is better than Folsom, you have never seen Folsom play live or extensively on film. Many of the people posting on here are from the bay area and will say that DLS is better, simply by default.

And thanks for getting in the mix. Your very first post. How cute
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We all watched DLS thumped Folsom the last two years. Both teams returned a lot of players. DLS made Browning less than great the last two times they played. DLS still a stronger team with more team speed. 55-30 would be the score.

YOU KNOW G61, YOU ARE ACTUALLY A BIGGER JERK THAN I AM!!
 
That post is laughable
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DLS beat a Folsom team loaded with underclassman. Most were sophomores. You need to compare apples to apples. This year, the playing field was much more equal. It would have been a classic matchup with Folsom winning 52-42.

Also, if we are comparing apples to apples...ALL of Folsom's kids live in Folsom! What a crazy thing! DLS has assembled an all star team of Bay Area talent and used BART as their school bus system. The fact that Folsom could beat DLS in this kind of scenario is actually quite amazing.

#bayareabias
 
Evidently G61 is looking for an "honest" assessment. Why not go on the national board? I'm pretty sure you will get the same assessment.
 
Here is a stat for all of you Bay Area "homers."

In Folsom, the median annual family income is 123k a year.

In Concord, the median annual family income is 62k.

I bet most of you on here had no idea about that. Have you ever been to Folsom's field? It is quite amazing. "Smurf turf" they call it.

This has nothing to do with this debate, but I wanted to throw it out there since many of you had no idea
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This post was edited on 12/21 1:09 PM by G61
 
NorCalSportsfan,
That score seems close.

Although, I see it has more like 42-34, Folsom.

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has them.
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.50 cents of what ever your on would finish an elephant. Never mind your words aren't worth a response. DONT DO CRACk.

This post was edited on 12/21 1:36 PM by lb9er

This post was edited on 12/21 1:38 PM by lb9er
 
What really scares a sane person is your probably serious. And your aloud on the streets. DONT DO CRACK.
 
Looks like I ruffled some feathers!
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"You mean an area inside the SJS is more affluent than any city in the Bay Area!?"

I know it's crazy. But real :)

Feel free to share.
 
"And thanks for getting in the mix. Your very first post. How cute
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Yes.

That is how insipid your comments are.

I found them to be so completely annoying that I was forced to take precious minutes from my life--precious minutes that apparently should have been spent studying Folsom game film--and register for this site for sole the purpose of commenting on your detachment from reality.

I don't know if I hate you, or myself, more for that.

"Go look at the penalties last night."

Don't need to. Watched the game. 5 or 6 false starts. They were correct calls. I did not see any false starts that were not flagged. Just because your feverish rantings repeat something over and over, it doesn't make them true.

"Many of the people posting on here are from the bay area and will say that DLS is better, simply by default."

Now just substitute "bay area" with "Folsom" or "SJS," and replace "DLS" with "FHS" and then take a look in the mirror.


I honestly do think DLS is better than Folsom:

December 8, 2012 49-15
December 14, 2013 45-17

Tell me, what is different a year later? But before you do, realize that every claim you make that "Folsom is more experienced" or a certain player is "better" or "more mature," or the "offense is awesome" or the "defense eats raw meat for breakfast"--- whatever--- I get to make the same claim about DLS.

It's just a matter of opinion really, and most people not living in Folsom agree with me.

BTW...the next time a team from Northern California beats DLS, we can talk about removing the "default" setting we have here in the Bay Area.
 
Originally posted by G61:
NorCalSportsfan,
That score seems close.

Although, I see it has more like 42-34, Folsom.

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has them.
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Tru-dat....You are obviously the front runner for King, Emperor, Grand Poo-Bah, El Presidente, etc etc of the Biggest A-Hole. Your campaigning has definitely got my vote.

I nominate you for the Tank, bling-bling, V-I, brokbackmountain66 of the NorCal Boards.

You are the sufferable brother-in-law at every family holiday dinner who expresses an opinion about everything, contributes nothing and then asks to borrow some money until the next family get together.

I have met many Folsom fans over the last couple of years, great people, good sports knowledge and I am happy for the team, players & coach in their SBG win as well as the parents of those Bulldog boys but......... please, please will someone contact Folsom's AD and get Junior (the emotican Queen) a signed program or football, give him a corn dog and send him on his way.
 
Originally posted by G61:
That post is laughable
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DLS beat a Folsom team loaded with underclassman. Most were sophomores. You need to compare apples to apples. This year, the playing field was much more equal. It would have been a classic matchup with Folsom winning 52-42.

Also, if we are comparing apples to apples...ALL of Folsom's kids live in Folsom! What a crazy thing! DLS has assembled an all star team of Bay Area talent and used BART as their school bus system. The fact that Folsom could beat DLS in this kind of scenario is actually quite amazing.

#bayareabias
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G61,
It may seem on paper that Folsom can hang with DLS, but they have tried to with two excellent teams in the last 2 years, and didnt even come close to making it a game. Is Folsom better this year than last year? Yes. Is DLS better this year then last year? Yes. I saw nothing on the field this year that would say that Folsom would have done any better this year from previous 2 years, other than to say it would be hard not to improve on those previous performances, because they were not even in the game at all against them. IF those two played again this year, I would think 42-21 DLS.

Also, I think that Centennial's offense is better than Folsom's but the reverse on Defense. I could see a crazy score between those two teams like 56-53, but would pick Centennial over Folsom. Would have loved to see them play on the field rather than debate this on a message board.
 
Originally posted by G61:
That post is laughable
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DLS beat a Folsom team loaded with underclassman. Most were sophomores. You need to compare apples to apples. This year, the playing field was much more equal. It would have been a classic matchup with Folsom winning 52-42.

Also, if we are comparing apples to apples...ALL of Folsom's kids live in Folsom! What a crazy thing! DLS has assembled an all star team of Bay Area talent and used BART as their school bus system. The fact that Folsom could beat DLS in this kind of scenario is actually quite amazing.

#bayareabias
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You do realize in the 2013 game DLS had a ton of juniors/sophs starting/playing significant minutes last year against Folsom. Custer (soph), Asiasi (soph), Tagaloa (soph), Andrade (soph), Sullivan, McKenzie, Medeiros, Phillips, Anderson, Simba Short, Lissarague, Ogburn.

Most of those Folsom players were not sophs last year either, since they were seniors this season. So it looks like these teams were pretty similar in age.

And once again here is the issue for Folsom when you look at last night's game, where did CC do most of their damage especially at the start of the game? QB runs...Browning can't do that. Pocket passers do not fare well vs DLS. Look at the list of QB's who have led their teams to victory or close one score losses against DLS. The number of pocket passers I can think of is one and that was Gary Nova from Don Bosco back in 2009. Even Rosen from SJB could scoot when needed and they had him running read option plays. In DLS' defensive scheme, there are openings for mobile QB's, including when the coverage is good. Waller from Servite, and the Byrnes QB were also able to exploit this a few times.
This post was edited on 12/21 2:20 PM by renegades10
 
Until Folsom beats DLS I will have to give it to DLS.
Keep in mind Folsom offensive scheme is some of the best I have ever seen. Take Trosin and Graves before him. They were fantastic high school quarterbacks setting records and lighting it up. While both were fantastic high school QB,s . One is now playing for SLO (second string) and the other in Junior College.
 
This thread must have been posted by a troll.

I heard this argument for years. Then Folsom got its regional game to take a shot. They failed miserably twice and things went back to the old way. Folsom is probably a top 10 team in the country, but I would bet my house, plane, and boat that DLS is higher on the list.

Good job Folsom, you would probably be THE state champs in 48-49/50 states. Unfortunately the national champ shares ground with you and you'll have to settle for 2nd. There is no way around that.
 
G61 posted on 12/21/2014...


Have you ever been to Folsom's field? It is quite amazing. "Smurf turf" they call it.

This has nothing to do with this debate, but I wanted to throw it out there since many of you had no idea
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This post was edited on 12/21 4:07 PM by PGownsWHITNEY
 
I live in the 916 and hit up lots of Folsom and SJS games. I thought the bulldogs were incredible this year. If you said #1 team ever from SJS that is a real argument. I would support that. Heck I've been preaching it. I loved how they invested in there defense this year and beefed up their lines. Huge difference. Made them an elite team. But did you see how fast and physical the nightcap was on Saturday? It was a totally different level. I told my son basically this is a college football game. I'm not saying Folsom wouldn't put points on either team. But don't underestimate how good those 2 little backs are for DLS either especially running behind that wall. It didn't help that Oceanside was pretty garbage when I look back on that game. Lets face it Campo and Clayton would knock off that team.

Hats off to all the winners. Norcal represented so well this year. Folsom rewrote a lot records on both the state and national level with that scoring machine. 16 rolling clocks. Amazing.

Folsom earned a top 10 national ranking IMO with how they performed during the entire season. Whether they fall #5 or #7 doesn't really matter.
 
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