Some people on this board said St. Francis would be better than they were last year.
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Some people on this board said St. Francis would be better than they were last year.
it’s dls.. so critical are the many but wouldn’t be surprised if they beat CC, Folsom , and St marys over next 3. Although I think a more likely scenario is 2-1.
DLS has a long history of making large improvements after the first couple weeks. Defensively, they showed it last night, not nearly as many missed tackles, etc.
Offense is still a little shaky and will be unable to move the ball consistently against really tough opponents unless they figure out who they're gonna be. They're pretty strong running their veer option stuff, but not like in their glory days... and the more modern shotgun/passing stuff they've been trying to add in (due to having a QB that shows some promise and a rifle arm) has been somewhat disappointing and inconsistent, but not so bad that it should be ashcanned.
We'll just have to see...
Offense is still a little shaky and will be unable to move the ball consistently against really tough opponents unless they figure out who they're gonna be. They're pretty strong running their veer option stuff, but not like in their glory days... and the more modern shotgun/passing stuff they've been trying to add in (due to having a QB that shows some promise and a rifle arm) has been somewhat disappointing and inconsistent, but not so bad that it should be ashcanned.
We'll just have to see...
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DLS has quite a few injuries. They pulled up kids from JV (the ones who had no names on their jerseys). Something like two or three freshman were starting last night. If they aren’t healthy it could be a tough year, but the experience those kids get right now could bode very well for the next few years.
Many people share the same feelings.
Bay Area simply isn't what it once was. There are new kings being crowned every year.
They have lost to them many times before and I am still here.
Oh- they beat them last year, AT DLS, in the playoffs.
DLS has 74 players listed on their varsity roster. Are you saying JV players are better than the Varsity reserves?
Many new families are now up in El Dorado Hills. Oak Ridge is on the rise!Many people share the same feelings.
Bay Area simply isn't what it once was. There are new kings being crowned every year.
Given who was getting playing time the other night…sure looks like it.
I would agree with you. The entire foothill region seems to be that way now.
Bay Area lost its luster a long time ago. Look what schools look like north of the Golden Gate right now, especially way north. Straight up no mans land for sports.
Is parity really that good in this case? Unfortunately for NorCal football DLS is just another good team. It’s not like Serra or Folsom closed the gap and beat DLS. It’s the opposite DLS came down to their level. I have seen DLS beat way better Folsom teams then the last two that beat DLS. IMO I would rather see parity at the level DLS was then what it is now. But I think this is what we’re stuck with now.
You're right. They didn't.
They BLEW up the gap. Folsom beat old Sparty on THEIR OWN FIELD in back to back years.
Folsom king.
That’s a fair assessment. De la Salle has declined. Folsom has also had several Power5 skill position players over the past few seasons. IMO, things got closer when the receivers and running back talent improved. Folsom is also very familiar with the veer now. Folsom has had great coaching over the years. Now they are getting some of Sac’s best talent.
I'm curious where you would rank the 2022 Folsom team in comparison to previous Folsom teams.
Personally, here's how I saw it, with MT playing most of these teams on the field from 2009 to 2021:
#1) 2014. This is the best overall team because the line play on both sides was fantastic. Browning was the best high school QB I have seen live.
#2) 2018: For pure talent and depth, this team was simply loaded.
#3) 2010: Dano Graves was very entertaining and had a great presence. This is also the beginning of an era of much more consistent line play and an emphasis on being effective on defense rather than just an offensive machine.
#4) 2019: Very explosive, but did not seem like the most cohesive group.
#5) 2021: Showed a lot of resiliency by winning two very important games in rematches. That's where they beat out 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, or 2017, although someone could make an argument for those years.
So again, with a season in progress, where do you think the 2022 team will rank?
It’s so funny how the two posters on this board who know the absolute least about HSFB (pasty and his alter ego QPR who somehow Immediately liked your post) SMH your just so very weird, thinks Folsom blew up the gap. And Folsom is king. Did Folsom not lose to Serra?
Folsom beat DLS TWICE on their own home field.
That is ALL that matters.
DLS is now a thing of the past- yawn.....
Great question.
2014 was always my favorite team and I think the best team to ever grace the field in the SJS section and possibly NorCal. It is sad a game with DLS didn't happen that year. I have a sneaking suspicion DLS would probably win a close one that year- they had a nationally elite level team that year, right with Folsom.
2018- Ngata's, Badger, Bennett, etc........loaded like you said. I still think this team goes down as somewhat underrated.
2010- Ah, the underdogs. Best story, great kids. Not the most talented, but that team had the "it" factor.
2019- Great talent, but some of the studs were already looking go greener pastures.
Last two years- Probably behind the teams above. Still great talent and fun to watch. It's been fun to watch the evolution on defense for adapting to the veer. Something the better Folsom teams struggled with, mostly because DLSs line play was so much better during those years.
My two cents on the lists is I agree with the order but would swap 2010 with 2018. Call it an it factor, cohesion or something similar but that group just seemed to fit together really well though they were behind some of the other teams in terms of overall talent.
Browning got creamed twice by DLS, so I would say he was very good, but had little speed to move around the pocket. Over hyped.
I agree. It's just so hard to judge 2010 with Dano Graves vs. some of the "super teams" they fielded later. Tough comparison
Overhyped HS QBs don't own every passing record at Power 5 Washington.
Overhyped QBs from Mater Dei like JT Daniels take the cake
“That’s all that matters” to you. I don’t care that Folsom beat DLS twice on their field. What bothers me is the best of HSFB in NorCal is more then likely behind us. Our best team now is Serra and they are not what DLS was.Folsom beat DLS TWICE on their own home field.
That is ALL that matters.
DLS is now a thing of the past- yawn.....
That you would have to prove.OH yes you do.
Your posting history clearly illustrates it.
No need. Anyone can look at your prior posts.
You are mad that DLS is no longer the big dog. You are mad that Folsom has beaten then twice in a row at Concord. It bothers you.
Clearly Fauxsom Sybil spent a lot of off season studying ways to expand posting personalities...................
*Giveaway hint:... hand should inserted in opening behind puppet's head and NOT in opening behind puppet's legs.
That’s it? really? First time in my life I’ve been accused of being a DLS fan. But to my point the level of HSFB has dropped. And while you are basking in the glory the fact of the matter is Norcal football isn’t what it was and probably never will be again. I really hope I’m wrong but that’s my opinion.No need. Anyone can look at your prior posts.
You are mad that DLS is no longer the big dog. You are mad that Folsom has beaten then twice in a row at Concord. It bothers you.
Just because DLS has fallen off, does not mean the quality of HSFB in NorCal has fallen off. DLS isn't the end all be all.
For example- The Sierra Foothill league this year may be the best it's ever been. That is saying a lot, considering it is usually a top 5 league in the entire state
No matter how you look at it, for bragging rights a W is a W, on the scoreboard, in the stat books and in the history books. I would be among the first to congratulate the Folsom Bulldogs on their Wins over my Spartans......and a firm handshake to Folsom's biggest fan on this HSFB site Fauxsom chatty Pastyfq'd-3.Folsom beat DLS TWICE on their own home field.
That is ALL that matters.
DLS is now a thing of the past- yawn.....
Yes your 'Dogs finally beat DLS ....and on the Spartans' home turf, yes impressive, Pastyfq'd-3 and your hand puppet, the kewper one.
The Spartans have self destructed into 4 losses last season and this thus far by a total of 11 points while "Folsom was outscored by 76 points in it's four losses last season including 21 at home (at the blue Smurf field)to De La Salle last October"**
Last Friday's loss was a stinger, but not "dominating on both sides of the lines" as Chatty-P has often posted. Last Friday's game showed the Spartans running 59 plays, the Bull Dogs 58, DLS gained 239 yards(197 rushing/54 passing) to Folsom's 238 yards (42 ran & 184 passing).
Like I said in the beginning Win is a Win, and I respect the Bulldog players and coaches for their achievements,
(incidently kudos to the visiting Folsom parents and fans with whom I spoke Friday before and after the game) .................but "a thing of the past" ?!?! LOL.....hardly.
There's way to much Pride on campus and within the Spartan Program to just roll over like some road kill. Coach A' needs to get his new/young staff ducks in a row, his players healthy, hungry amd focused. No excuses, justhard work and attention straight ahead on the mission.
While your yawning you might want to keep your eye on your rear view mirror.
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DLS has put up TWO 1st half scoring GOOSE EGGS against a public school defense.
Yes- they have been dominated on both sides of the line. That is why they've lost. That, combined with an inability to throw the ball has relegated them to a lower tier in NorCal, behind the likes of Folsom and Serra.
...and the game is still Four quarters when I last checked. But granted sleeping the 1st half is a poor strategy, making the 2nd half a pretty steep climb but to get within 2 points last year's failed go for the win gamble and 4 in this year's last minute and a half red zone collapse the 2nd half does not say much about (your)"a public school defense" mantra.
Look Serra and Folsom both have very good programs. And the SFL is very good and a lot of fun to watch. All I was trying to say is I would have rather seen Serra and Folsom raise their level of play and compete with and or beat DLS instead of DLS coming down to their level. Still as much as DLS has fallen off they have only lost by a total of around 10 points in the 4 losses. So IMO they are still really competitive with the best in NorCal but just another really good team.
It is a collapse against a public school defense. TWICE in a row on your HOME FIELD!? C'mon man.
Saying DLS has fallen off as an excuse for getting beat TWICE in a row at home is simply a huge cop out- and not wanting to simply admit that they aren't the best program in NorCal anymore.
Give props where props are due. Much better than excuses for "falling off," or whatever. Bead beat man.
C'mon man.....?!?! I several times have congratulated and given, Props Due,
Butt I'm not bending over offering excuses, a 4 and 2 point loss do not fall into the ankle grabbing category no matter how you spin it.
Butt I'm not bending over offering excuses, a 4 and 2 point loss do not fall into the ankle grabbing category no matter how you spin it.
Look you can’t debate this dude at all. What a few people on here makes plenty of sense. How one thinks DLS being below Folsom and Serra is huge, is laughable. DLS proved they still have something in the tank.
I recall saying this a week or so back. Until Folsom or Serra beat DLS, as in beats them good, then anyone can argue that the teams are fairly close. It’s not rocket science that DLS is not even close to the same, but they are still in the arena.
So one must now say, does DLS continue to fall, or do they come back one day. But one thing is for sure, if Serra and Folsom want to fully separate themselves from DLS, then the first thing they need to do is start playing national powers. Sure it may take another year or two, but when Serra ranked 30th nationally and Folsom 36th, and DLS now 66th, maybe it is time for Serra and Folsom to elevate and reach out to teams from say 18th to 28th. And take DLS off their schedule. And really build that reputation that well folks, we are truly ready for the big stage that DLS for years never turned away from.
In closing it is huge Folsom and Serra now run thru their respective leagues. Which in the WCAL is always tough, and if indeed the SFL is the best league in Nor Cal, may be tough as well.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so it was " you HAVE TO BEAT DLS!"
And now it is "well you have to BEAT THEM REALLY GOOD!"
What a way to move the goal posts.
DLS lost TWICE AT HOME to Folsom. Give them their due and move on. My god.
While everyone marvels at the 2014 team, (rightfully so), I think the 2018 was just as good, if not better. They had much better skill position players (with the exception of Browning) and played De La Salle close. If I remember correctly, didn’t D. Ngata fumble on the one yard line?
I’m not sure if the 2014 Bulldogs are the best team out of SJS. Definitely a great team, but SJS has had some very monstrous teams…. Cordova, EG, Grant, and NU have had some very dangerous teams. SJS has had some fast, ferocious, and violent teams.
Where do I disrespect Folsom. As a matter of fact you of all people give them a bad name in my book cause you have little to no respect for any of their opponents. And I never ever said beat DLS to be the true best in Nor Cal. And as your rants of today started, the true winners is the kids in the helmets from Folsom, Serra, and DLS. The only loser, is a grown man. People give props to Folsom like concrete just did and you come up with blah blah blah blah. You, 31-10 domination on DLS behalf, you folded and disappeared. So yeah, look forward to a public school beat them twice in a row. The lines blew up. Versus man, great game DLS, thank God they didn’t stop us on 4th and 1. And your a grown man, damn shame.
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