Jalen Stokes denied eligibility at Dougherty Valley

[Streak One]

Tough news for Jalen and Dougherty Valley

Star basketball player Jalen Stokes denied eligibility at Dougherty Valley after transfer from Dublin

Dougherty Valley plans to appeal the NCS ruling, which comes months after Stokes’ transfer raised eyebrows in the East Bay prep basketball community.

www.mercurynews.com

 

[ankleassassin]

what was the reasoning

 

[Streak One]

Story didn’t provide a clear reason.

 

[LBJ6]

Fake address is what I’m hearing

 

[viper221980]

Fake address is what I'm hearing

We will probably find out the truth later, but I understand there may be more personality than principle involved in the fact finding and decision making. Let’s see what happens with the appeal.

 

[ayalar09]

His only option is Prep School now

 

[ankleassassin]

His only option is Prep School now

he already has a scholarship. he can just chill to the next episode now. (snoop reference as he just walked out on first take)

 

[ayalar09]

he already has a scholarship. he can just chill to the next episode now. (snoop reference as he just walked out on first take)

True. And the AAU circuit allows seniors to play now, so he could always play summer ball

 

[viper221980]

True. And the AAU circuit allows seniors to play now, so he could always play summer ball

Only unsigned seniors can play in the summer

 

[padrewhipser]

He should transfer to Riordan, claim residence in the dorms and will be eligible to play

 

[FanNorth]

Makes no sense to deny a kid from playing these people need to get with the times. this is not 1982. A kid gets 4 years to play, who cares if they transfers. If a kid feels that he has a better opportunity somewhere else let him go and as a coach you should never try and stop a kid. But thats because at the end of the day it ain't about the kid. These sickens me.

 

[larry legend33]

This has to be the all-time bonehead transfer. Its like going from a clerk at Lowes to one at Home Depot. What do you get from transferring from Dublin to DV? Please educate me. Dublin is a better program. At end of day it doesn't matter because he's already going to UCD but I'm certainly not losing sleep over it and its hardly a story.

 

[kiddman32]

Well, it certainly is for the two teams involved... Whichever team he ends up playing for has a legit shot at a deeeeeeep run, the other more of a longshot at that run.

Personally, I have an idea the transfer has something to do with some sort of goings-on at Dublin... Seems like he chose to get out of Dublin rather sticking around in some sort of uncomfortable situation there (No, I have no idea what that might be, no inside info whatsoever, just a hunch), moving to the closest viable alternative.

 

[larry legend33]

Well, it certainly is for the two teams involved... Whichever team he ends up playing for has a legit shot at a deeeeeeep run, the other more of a longshot at that run.

Personally, I have an idea the transfer has something to do with some sort of goings-on at Dublin... Seems like he chose to get out of Dublin rather sticking around in some sort of uncomfortable situation there (No, I have no idea what that might be, no inside info whatsoever, just a hunch), moving to the closest viable alternative.

Understood but its not like he's going to a prep school of even a private. Seems like a lateral to slightly down move at best.
But at end of day it doesn't matter other than being a spectator sucks.

 

[viper221980]

Makes no sense to deny a kid from playing these people need to get with the times. this is not 1982. A kid gets 4 years to play, who cares if they transfers. If a kid feels that he has a better opportunity somewhere else let him go and as a coach you should never try and stop a kid. But thats because at the end of the day it ain't about the kid. These sickens me.

I agree. Let the kids play. I read about some really talented kids (already with D1 commitments) in Southern California transferring to new high schools (i.e. Sierra Canyon) without any consequences. What is different here if all of the requirements to transfer have been met? Did Dublin protest the transfer?

 

[FanNorth]

I agree. Let the kids play. I read about some really talented kids (already with D1 commitments) in Southern California transferring to new high schools (i.e. Sierra Canyon) without any consequences. What is different here if all of the requirements to transfer have been met? Did Dublin protest the transfer?

That is the part I hate the inconsistencies the the CIF. Its a joke. LA might as well not be apart of the CIF. It makes me sick that they do this. I'm going to have my kids transfer because I like another school Band, would he have to sit out? My daughter is going to transfer because she like the other teams cheer squad. Do she have to sit out. My other son wants to be on a better debate team and he is transferring do he have to sit out. CIF and the Sections in North California is a JOKE......... GET WITH THE TIMES

 

[viper221980]

Well, it certainly is for the two teams involved... Whichever team he ends up playing for has a legit shot at a deeeeeeep run, the other more of a longshot at that run.

Personally, I have an idea the transfer has something to do with some sort of goings-on at Dublin... Seems like he chose to get out of Dublin rather sticking around in some sort of uncomfortable situation there (No, I have no idea what that might be, no inside info whatsoever, just a hunch), moving to the closest viable alternative.

Kiddman, you might be on to something. There was a verbal altercation between Stokes and a former Dublin assistant coach that may have contributed to his desire to transfer.

 

[510sportsfan]

Seems like Dublin must have pleaded their case to block the transfer (can't really blame them) and that something caused him to want to leave. Heading to another solid program at a nearby public school seems like a logical decision on his and his family's part. I have to wonder if he had decided to transfer to say De La Salle or another private if his transfer would have been approved

 

[TC112]

This has to be the all-time bonehead transfer. Its like going from a clerk at Lowes to one at Home Depot. What do you get from transferring from Dublin to DV? Please educate me. Dublin is a better program. At end of day it doesn't matter because he's already going to UCD but I'm certainly not losing sleep over it and its hardly a story.

You are aware that DV won NCS Open 2years ago and won NCS D1 last year. Dublins last NCS championship was when? How are they the better program?

 

[northbaybbguru]

If a parent and kid want to transfer to another school for WHATEVER REASON they should be able to....period....with no penalty.

It shouldn't matter if it's for sports, band, debate club, math club, choir etc...

AND.....

All the sections should play by the same rules on transfers.

The fact that it's the wild wild west in the Southern section and almost anything goes while up here in the NCS the powers that be deny kids all the time. It's not a level playing field and it's ridiculous.

 

[inazone1]

What's funny is when both schools moved into the EBAL league it was said that neither would be able to compete and both programs have done quite well and claimed league titles they both have consistently been two of the better public school programs.

 

[observer22]

What's funny is when both schools moved into the EBAL league it was said that neither would be able to compete and both programs have done quite well and claimed league titles they both have consistently been two of the better public school programs.

In basketball a few players can make a huge difference. Both of these schools have solid coaches and have competed well with the existing EBAL schools. Football and baseball have been a much bigger challenge for them.

 

[HSfan82]

On a side note, Stokes older brother went to O’Dowd.. prob should be there…. One of many misses

 

[observer22]

On a side note, Stokes older brother went to O’Dowd.. prob should be there…. One of many misses

There is currently a Stokes on the O’Dowd girls’ team.

 

[ankleassassin]

That is the part I hate the inconsistencies the the CIF. Its a joke. LA might as well not be apart of the CIF. It makes me sick that they do this. I'm going to have my kids transfer because I like another school Band, would he have to sit out? My daughter is going to transfer because she like the other teams cheer squad. Do she have to sit out. My other son wants to be on a better debate team and he is transferring do he have to sit out. CIF and the Sections in North California is a JOKE......... GET WITH THE TIMES

Sierra canyon is not in Los Angeles

 

[hoopjunkie21]

This has to be the all-time bonehead transfer. Its like going from a clerk at Lowes to one at Home Depot. What do you get from transferring from Dublin to DV? Please educate me. Dublin is a better program. At end of day it doesn't matter because he's already going to UCD but I'm certainly not losing sleep over it and its hardly a story.

Not sure I completely agree. A lot of parity between the two programs. But have to give the edge to DV. Overall Hansen has done more with less talent.

 

[Eastbayhoops]

Sierra canyon is not in Los Angeles

Yes it is in Los Angeles. Chatsworth is a neigborhood within the LA city limits. It has been part of LA since 1915.

 

[ankleassassin]

Yes it is in Los Angeles. Chatsworth is a neigborhood within the LA city limits. It has been part of LA since 1915.

Sort of true.. but Sierra canyon doesn't play in the city section. But chatsworth is more sfv than LA.

 

[Y Cap]

It would be nice if people knew the whole story on transfers before making guesses as to what and why. I learned lately about a couple of transfers that makes more sense as to why one transfer was allowed versus other not allowed.

 

[ankleassassin]

It would be nice if people knew the whole story on transfers before making guesses as to what and why. I learned lately about a couple of transfers that makes more sense as to why one transfer was allowed versus other not allowed.

Do tell

 

[larry legend33]

You are aware that DV won NCS Open 2years ago and won NCS D1 last year. Dublins last NCS championship was when? How are they the better program?

Of course I'm aware of that. DV had a once in a 25 +year backcourt with the 2 small guards. (Sevilla and Beasely) Dublin is a better program right now and is better this year. With him they would be a legit open contender. Clearly the move was related to some scuffle or disagreement because you don't transfer between these schools.

 

[ankleassassin]

Of course I'm aware of that. DV had a once in a 25 +year backcourt with the 2 small guards. (Sevilla and Beasely) Dublin is a better program right now and is better this year. With him they would be a legit open contender. Clearly the move was related to some scuffle or disagreement because you don't transfer between these schools.

Big bro Beasley has entered the chat

 

[HSfan82]

There is currently a Stokes on the O’Dowd girls’ team.

No relation. That young lady is former Niner JJ Stokes daughter… Jalen older brother was Sterling

 

[FanNorth]

Sierra canyon is not in Los Angeles

I'm going to take this as a joke. ha ha

 

[FanNorth]

Like northbaybbguru said I don't care about the back story, side story, NO ONE should be able to tell a parent what school they can take their kid to, NO MATTER what it is for. PERIOD , its dumb

 

[ankleassassin]

I'm going to take this as a joke. ha ha

its in chatsworth and they play in the SS not LA section.

 

[Prepog]

Like northbaybbguru said I don't care about the back story, side story, NO ONE should be able to tell a parent what school they can take their kid to, NO MATTER what it is for. PERIOD , its dumb

To each their own, but personally I think all this transfer stuff is sending the wrong message to our kids. Now each case is different, but for the majority it’s due to the kid/parent not getting what the want….being the star, a starter, minutes or what have you. Message sent is, when faced with some adversity just get up and switch schools as opposed to facing the challenge and working harder….creating this entitlement culture that’s going around. Obviously that’s not the case with Stokes, but for most transfers it is. I know people say it’s about finding the best situation for their son, but all that means is a situation where they get what they want, as oppose to just sticking it out and earning it.

 

[FanNorth]

To each their own, but personally I think all this transfer stuff is sending the wrong message to our kids. Now each case is different, but for the majority it’s due to the kid/parent not getting what the want….being the star, a starter, minutes or what have you. Message sent is, when faced with some adversity just get up and switch schools as opposed to facing the challenge and working harder….creating this entitlement culture that’s going around. Obviously that’s not the case with Stokes, but for most transfers it is. I know people say it’s about finding the best situation for their son, but all that means is a situation where they get what they want, as oppose to just sticking it out and earning it.

I agree with the facing adversity and that is a small part of it. Too many coaches think these are their kids and they can say what they can and can't do. This is a different generation, and it aint going back to the old days. Transferring schools don't create an entitlement, parents create that for their kids. My biggest problem is the unfairness based on the different sections. The CIF/ sections are a joke when it comes to fair enforcement of the rules. The other problem I have is making a kid that played Freshman and JV sit out when they transfer. That makes ZERO sense. If that coach didn't have plans for the kid let him go. These kids should at least get a one time transfer wavier. I'vs coached for a long time and I know a lot of these coaches LIE to these parents , kids just to get them in the school.