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I agree that teams that plays in "a State Championship game" should play at least two games outside league to qualify. But its not the schools fault. Just the CIF for attempting to make more money. Not sure if Camp Fire played a role. IMO.Lincoln SF beats Orange Glen 24-13 for 6A Bowl Title this afternoon.
That's two in a row for AAA.
Still a joke that the SF Section gets a regional bowl berth. But congrats to Lincoln SF!
So, as of right now, it stands NorCal 4 SoCal 2
We await the revisionist history which will declare that the 2018 Lions are the best AAA team ever, ignoring the Polytechnic units from 1949 to 1954 (the Parrots did not lose a league game during that stretch) and St. Ignatius in 1962 and 1963 (19 wins in a row). The 1962 SI team was voted tied for No.1 in the nation by a panel of U.S. prep sportswriters. This year's Lincoln schedule did not include one A league team and the AAA itself has sadly declined to C league status overall. Lincoln played the grantd total of one post-season non-AAA game all year _ today's 6A bowl game. Any talk of AAA "greatness" should be muted right off the bat. Lincoln played no one of consequence this year. A 13-0 record is nice. But let's be very honest. Who did they play?
Man - when this regional bowl system started and Lincoln / Mission got smashed in consecutive years in the bowl "play in" game, I thought the AAA might be better off just playing their league schedule and opting out of the state playoffs. Not fun getting destroyed.
But in the last couple of years with the expansion of the bowl system, the AAA teams have played well against the teams they have faced.
What does this mean for the AAA? Nothing really. The AAA isn't going to get much more respect since this is the lowest division. BUT this does mean there are teams who may be below the best the AAA has to offer.
To the question of "who did Lincoln beat?" Well, they did beat the San Diego Section Division V football champions in Orange Glen. Orange Glen is a 2000 student school which means, Lincoln and Orange Glen have comparable student body sizes. So no more excuses as Galileo beat the tiny Vincent Memorial last year.
Let's face it, the AAA schools are not going to schedule the power houses in football nor with the powers schedule any AAA schools. This isn't college football where there's money involved. So the AAA will usually stick with the middle to lower tier of teams they can compete against.
This is probably why the AAA teams get ranked low in the state bowl system. But oh well, the Mustangs don't care and will enjoy their state win.
We’ve all been there. Merry Christmas.
I'm not sure Lincoln would have won the Lake Division.
Carlmont, the 2018 Lake champion, would have given the Lions a tough challenge if the Scots were healthy. But their performance vs. Burlingame in the CCS Division IV finale was utterly inept.
I feel that they would have won the Lake. Lincoln plays disciplined football with a solid line (not a super Huge Line compared to WCAL or other Leagues But big for AAA) and they have good skilled players.I'm not sure Lincoln would have won the Lake Division.
Phil is a good dude I coached against him when he was the Head Coach of Track and Field at Lincoln and I really respect how he built up the Football program over the last 15 years . His teams have always been disciplined and they play hard.Nice mention in story from Mitch Stephens in today’s SF Chronicle on Lincoln HS-SF and Coach Ferrigno
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/article/Emotional-moments-for-5-state-high-school-13473573.php
Carlmont, the 2018 Lake champion, would have given the Lions a tough challenge if the Scots were healthy. But their performance vs. Burlingame in the CCS Division IV finale was utterly inept.
Carlmont, the 2018 Lake champion, would have given the Lions a tough challenge if the Scots were healthy. But their performance vs. Burlingame in the CCS Division IV finale was utterly inept.
I feel that they would have won the Lake. Lincoln plays disciplined football with a solid line (not a super Huge Line compared to WCAL or other Leagues But big for AAA) and they have good skilled players.
I wasn't surprised when Lincoln lost to Carlmont last year and watching Lincoln last year they were the on paper the 3rd best team in AAA so it was expected. But this year everything clicked for them and I seriously doubt.the same outcome would've happened if they played Carlmont. And Sure I wish Lincoln didn't have a Bye to the State Championship but hey Pleasant Valley and Colfax byes to the State Championship as well so should they get called out for having an "easy road"I get that and don't get me wrong, being from San Francisco I take notice.
I saw Lincoln at Carlmont last season and it was not pretty at all.
I saw the SHP / Jeff / Lincoln / Balboa Jamboree this season and Jefferson treated Lincoln like a JV team. Lincoln obviously beat El Camino and Cap. They'd likely beat Woodside and Mills.
But Carlmont was the CCS Division 4 Finalist and beat both Willow Glen and Independence .
Jefferson had the #12 Total Offense in the CCS. Per game, they were #6. Whole different beast from ElCo and Cap who weren't even top 50.
I wasn't surprised when Lincoln lost to Carlmont last year and watching Lincoln last year they were the on paper the 3rd best team in AAA so it was expected. But this year everything clicked for them and I seriously doubt.the same outcome would've happened if they played Carlmont. And Sure I wish Lincoln didn't have a Bye to the State Championship but hey Pleasant Valley and Colfax byes to the State Championship as well so should they get called out for having an "easy road"
CTFU the Turkey Bowl lolThat's not really my argument against the AAA's cupcake road to state though. Pleasant Valley and Colfax both play in bigger, tougher sections. The Sac Joaquin Section has 174 schools. The Northern Section has 74 Schools. For shits and giggles lets just put it out there that the Central Coast Section has 150 Schools, The North Coast Section has 171 schools while the Central Section has 104 Schools.
The AAA has 7.
I'm from San Francisco and will pull hard for any team from SF in the playoffs or regionals, including the 3 Privates (who are CCS by the way). However, I went to school in the Peninsula and played with a few guys later on who played in the AAA. It used to get extremely annoying hearing from the kids who played in the City about how they won the sorry ass Turkey Bowl, got a ring for it and thought for a second they were better than us because of it. Sure, it's a great game. High School football on Thanksgiving at Kezar and the alumni show up. Truth is they'd be lucky to make it out of round 1 of any CCS playoff bracket.
And the same can be said for the OAL and the Silver Bowl. The reason they don't get as much shit as the AAA is because Mack is actually good. Skyline was actually good before them. Had Lincoln been asked to play a regional game versus Burlingame or TKA that game is over before halftime.
Had last year's Galileo team been asked to play Gilroy or Christopher, they would have gotten destroyed.