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NCS seedings D3

You think Rancho has a shot in D3?

Before I saw teams run on them I thought they had a really good chance at winning it. I wouldn't be surprised if they win it though. Heal up over the next few weeks. Roll into the playoffs hot. Get the D right. They got a shot. Not like the field is deep.
 
I know you guys believe that Analy would beat Rancho because they beat Carrillo. However, I think Rancho would win. Non-league games and league games are so much different. Carrillo always seems to have Ranchos number and the teams know each other so well its completely different from non league. If that game were to happen I would have Rancho edging them by a TD. Alhambra is nice to be seen in the mix, but they are not a real contender. This is Campolindo's division to lose
 
I know you guys believe that Analy would beat Rancho because they beat Carrillo. However, I think Rancho would win. Non-league games and league games are so much different. Carrillo always seems to have Ranchos number and the teams know each other so well its completely different from non league. If that game were to happen I would have Rancho edging them by a TD. Alhambra is nice to be seen in the mix, but they are not a real contender. This is Campolindo's division to lose

I think Rancho matches up well against Analy stylistically. They're not a power running type team that Rancho has been having problems with. I wouldn't be shocked if Alhambra made some noise in the playoffs. Marin Catholic did it last season when they got hot late. Like you say, It's Campos to lose.
 
I think Ranch wins 1 maybe 2 games in the playoffs. No sure if anyone is using the daisy chain of Analy beating Carillo therefore they beat Rancho because they lost to Carillo? That's not how it works in football. Same with the league, non league thing? Doesn't make a difference.
 
I believe league and nonleague do make a difference. Maybe it doesn't, but in DFAL it definitely makes an impact. On a previous thread someone attempted to tell me that Rancho would lose because of the fact they lost to Carrillo. I mentioned that in case youall were ludicrous enough to believe that.
 
Gotcha,

No I fully understand the daisy chain syndrome and how it has no bearing on results. Match ups and style dictate results.
 
I think it will be interesting where BOD gets placed and if EC makes the playoffs. Will get very interesting soon
 
1 Campo
2 Analy
3 Rancho

For sure this 1-2-3. 4-7 crapshoot too early to tell but...

4.Petaluma (7-2 only Analy left)
5. Alhambra (5-4 only Las Lomas left, signature win Dublin)
6.El Cerritto/Odowd (EC 3-5.. two big games with Pinole Valley and Hercules)
7.El Cerritto/Odowd (odowd 3-5 Encinal and CV left)

Actually pretty weak with departure of Marin and Newman. D4 actually tougher and more interesting. Clearly Campo's to lose,
 
This is CAMPO's to lose. This year Campo had difficulty against big power teams with a good defense. Is there anyone in D3 that can run the ball and slow the CAMPO offense down?
 
Yes, I believe this division is interesting due to the many question marks. Can Campo be slowed down, is Analy for real, can rancho get hot, are any underdogs like Alhambra or BOD going to come and play. I personally dont think anyone will beat Campo for the second straight year. However, as far as seeding. There is no way I see Petaluma getting the 4 seed. Who have they beat? A bad Terra Linda team or an untested Piner? Just dont see them in the league they play in having any chance at the 4 seed. Depending on the margin of the Analy game you could argue to say they might be put under Acalanes. It all comes down to these final weeks so we will see.
 
I agree with you on Petaluma. If the lose to Analy and keep it close then there is an argument. But if it's a blow out you have to give them 6 or lower seed based on how a few others finish.
 
It will be about match ups. Alhambra could upset someone but must pray they are not in the same bracket as CAMPO.
 
Yes it they play Analy tighter than we think then yes, there is an argument. And it is possible considering Petaluma played them close last year, but if not then Petaluma would fall considerably due to the lack of respect for their league. Alhambra will likely be in the exact same bracket as Campo and that is disappointing as I wanted to see a rematch of Rancho or a bout with Analy, but I guess we will see
 
I think the winner of D4 would prevail in D3 this year as well. Newman and Marin Catholic look like they are on a collision course. Haven't heard a lot about MC this year. They play in a worse league than Newman. Yes the MCAL is bad. But MC has a great program and always comes to play in the playoffs.
I do think Rancho will make some noise come playoff time. Wouldn't be surprised if they had a couple wins.
 
I agree with that too. I think the D4 bracket winner would most likely beat the D3 winner. I would not be surprised to see Rancho make some noise for sure with their QB RB WR combo
 
I think it looks like this right now.

1 Campo
2 Analy
3 Rancho
4 Alhambra/BOD
5 Alhambra/BOD
Why isn't Pinole Valley included in these ranking? At 5-3 or 5-2 they will be a playoff team as well
 
Pinole Valley petitioned up to D2 as far as the NCS website confirms. This is the D3 bracket we are discussing
 
I think the winner of D4 would prevail in D3 this year as well. Newman and Marin Catholic look like they are on a collision course. Haven't heard a lot about MC this year. They play in a worse league than Newman. Yes the MCAL is bad. But MC has a great program and always comes to play in the playoffs.
I do think Rancho will make some noise come playoff time. Wouldn't be surprised if they had a couple wins.

MC has a lot of size and depth this year, pretty good size on sides of the line....they have a 6'3 240 pound DE/TE from Australia who really is improving every week and growing into a real force......they also have a Casa transfer who is a 6'1 220 pound RB/LB sophomore who also is also becoming more of a force with each game he plays, they also have another 220 RB and an explosive playmaker at QB.......they have transfer WR from Arroyo Grande who has been a solid addition, the defense has been pretty lights out so far this year........I also see a collision course to the finals with CN
 
This is CAMPO's to lose. This year Campo had difficulty against big power teams with a good defense. Is there anyone in D3 that can run the ball and slow the CAMPO offense down?

Petaluma has won 7 games, which says more than 3-5 EC and BOD who have NO signature wins. If EC beats Pinole Valley thats something, BOD only has Encinal and Castro Valley 2 games they should win.

I wouldn't crown Marin Catholic and CN D4 finalists yet. The field is pretty strong with a surprising Moreau team, solid Piedmont team, an athletic St Marys team, dont count out Justin Siena who hung with MC for awhile and a lot of unknown from northern teams like undefeated Fortuna and undefeated winner of St Helena/Ft Bragg. As good as MC is they lost to a 5-3 Consumes Oaks, beat 4-3 Menlo Atherton, beat 1-6 SI and won the MCAL. A good preseason schedule but not like those teams are ripping it up. Top 4 or 5 D4 teams would be 9-1 with that schedule. Lets see how this thing plays out
 
I'm sorry I see Newman and MC rolling into the D4 champ game. I don't see any of these smaller schools even remotely giving either team a game. Their programs and schedules are so much stronger. Don't kid yourself about Consumes Oaks and there record. They lost to Granite Bay by 3 and a very good undefeated Antelope team in OT by 1. Consumes Oaks would beat any team north of the golden gate by 2-3+ scores.
 
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I'm sorry I see Newman and MC rolling into the D4 champ game. I don't see any of these smaller schools even remotely giving either team a game. Their programs and schedules are so much stronger. Don't kid yourself about Consumes Oaks and there record. They lost to Granite Bay by 3 and a very good undefeated Antelope team in OT by 1. Consumes Oaks would beat any team north of the golden gate by 2-3+ scores.

MC played like garbage against Consumes Oaks. They would drive the length of the field to like the 5 and stall out each drive. If they ran that back I wouldn't be surprised if MC beat them. Consumes Oaks is a good football team. Nice size and speed. I'll say this if Newman and MC don't make the finals I'm clowning.
 
Petaluma has won 7 games, which says more than 3-5 EC and BOD who have NO signature wins. If EC beats Pinole Valley thats something, BOD only has Encinal and Castro Valley 2 games they should win.

I wouldn't crown Marin Catholic and CN D4 finalists yet. The field is pretty strong with a surprising Moreau team, solid Piedmont team, an athletic St Marys team, dont count out Justin Siena who hung with MC for awhile and a lot of unknown from northern teams like undefeated Fortuna and undefeated winner of St Helena/Ft Bragg. As good as MC is they lost to a 5-3 Consumes Oaks, beat 4-3 Menlo Atherton, beat 1-6 SI and won the MCAL. A good preseason schedule but not like those teams are ripping it up. Top 4 or 5 D4 teams would be 9-1 with that schedule. Lets see how this thing plays out

Uh Consumes Oaks losses have been to some impressive squads in very very close games, also have you seen that Australian kid play for MC? CO game was his first game ever in his life playing American football, along with Fitzgerald who's only a sophomore and the transfer from AG in his first game with MC.......a loss to CO doesn't quite equate to a loss to American......sorry the northern teams like FB, SH and fortuna haven't seen quality teams like CN or MC before............if there is an upset will be one the Catholic schools or Piedmont, San Marin with their offense might pull an upset
 
Menlo atherton btw has been on a roll lately if you haven't noticed, just beat SHP and Justin Siena has a really nice win over So Cal D4 power St Margarets
 
MC has a lot of size and depth this year, pretty good size on sides of the line....they have a 6'3 240 pound DE/TE from Australia who really is improving every week and growing into a real force......they also have a Casa transfer who is a 6'1 220 pound RB/LB sophomore who also is also becoming more of a force with each game he plays, they also have another 220 RB and an explosive playmaker at QB.......they have transfer WR from Arroyo Grande who has been a solid addition, the defense has been pretty lights out so far this year........I also see a collision course to the finals with CN

MC415...

I agree collision course with CN in D4 finals....

QUESTION: I was at the Justin-siena/MC game and didn't come away impressed at all with the skill position players for MC. The OL/DL are big and physical for sure...they are very good. BUT other than the QB TREMENDOUS running ability I didn't see much offensively. The QB has a VERY strong arm but lacks any accuracy. The wr's couldn't get open and I didn't see any playmakers or much foot speed. Am I wrong on those conclusions? It was only 1 game and perhaps I caught MC on a bad game/day. But vs JS I would have thought I would have seen MC at their best. MC415 you clearly have seen MC much more than I have...do I have this wrong??

thanks
 
Northbay- MC definitely doesn't have the elite game breakers on the outside and their QB is their most dynamic player, but their scheme usually allows them to be effective passing the ball. Their sophomore running back is gaining more and more carries each game and he goes 220 and their other RB is 220 as well....much more physical team but yes they lack top end speed outside which if a team can slow them down and make them drive long without breaking that can give them issues......but MC defense is truly their strength this year
 
CN and MC will roll through the D4 field. I give the edge to MC in the finals by 2 scores over Newman.

That being said, I think MC, CN, Analy, Campo and Rancho are all pretty even this year and any team could beat the other on any given day and a neutral field.
 
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Uh Consumes Oaks losses have been to some impressive squads in very very close games, also have you seen that Australian kid play for MC? CO game was his first game ever in his life playing American football, along with Fitzgerald who's only a sophomore and the transfer from AG in his first game with MC.......a loss to CO doesn't quite equate to a loss to American......sorry the northern teams like FB, SH and fortuna haven't seen quality teams like CN or MC before............if there is an upset will be one the Catholic schools or Piedmont, San Marin with their offense might pull an upset

By no means equating Moreau loss to American equal to MC Consumes Oaks loss. No doubt CO top tier team. Just saying dont sleep on other D4 teams until you have seen them. If Marin lacks speed the other MC is pretty fast as is St Marys, lets see what happens.
 
By no means equating Moreau loss to American equal to MC Consumes Oaks loss. No doubt CO top tier team. Just saying dont sleep on other D4 teams until you have seen them. If Marin lacks speed the other MC is pretty fast as is St Marys, lets see what happens.

I have watched most of their Hudl videos those teams do have speed for sure but just don't see them having the size and athletes up front on both sides to keep up for 4 quarters but who knows that's why they play the games
 
Petaluma has won 7 games, which says more than 3-5 EC and BOD who have NO signature wins. If EC beats Pinole Valley thats something, BOD only has Encinal and Castro Valley 2 games they should win.

I wouldn't crown Marin Catholic and CN D4 finalists yet. The field is pretty strong with a surprising Moreau team, solid Piedmont team, an athletic St Marys team, dont count out Justin Siena who hung with MC for awhile and a lot of unknown from northern teams like undefeated Fortuna and undefeated winner of St Helena/Ft Bragg. As good as MC is they lost to a 5-3 Consumes Oaks, beat 4-3 Menlo Atherton, beat 1-6 SI and won the MCAL. A good preseason schedule but not like those teams are ripping it up. Top 4 or 5 D4 teams would be 9-1 with that schedule. Lets see how this thing plays out
Agreed. If you look at the top half (top 8) of D3 & D4, D4 looks much stronger and looks to have more parity. St. Mary's beat O'Dowd & Pinole, Justin Sienna beat the top D4 southern cal team, and Piedmont beat Justin & almost beat McClymonds. In D4, anything can happen, and now add new teams you are not familiar with. Will be exciting postseason in D4, the best they have ever had. MC & CN should get the top two seeds, but there are teams that can challenge them. D3
 
Agreed. If you look at the top half (top 8) of D3 & D4, D4 looks much stronger and looks to have more parity. St. Mary's beat O'Dowd & Pinole, Justin Sienna beat the top D4 southern cal team, and Piedmont beat Justin & almost beat McClymonds. In D4, anything can happen, and now add new teams you are not familiar with. Will be exciting postseason in D4, the best they have ever had. MC & CN should get the top two seeds, but there are teams that can challenge them. D3
D3, Campo is down from last year, but they should run away with it, the rest of the field is down.
 
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