Pinewood vs SHC
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Not sure? That is a good question. I think SHC falling puts more focus on MM, Salesian,SMS,SMB, McClatchy, Heritage, Campolindo,Lincoln,St. Ignatius, Folsom, and any other bubble teams. I personally think SHC should still be in the Open. And of course I don't think several of the teams I have listed meet the criteria the deciding committee uses. I guess we will have to wait until many games are played tonight and Friday. The pending results will most likely impact the decision of not only who's selected, but the seeding order as well.
May all the teams give their best efforts. And play hard, injury free, with class, and great sportsman/sportswomanship.
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God thats tough.. Been thinking the same thing. They are better than that score indicates. Their style just doesnt match well with PW. But they may have a few too many losses. If they are not in the open, I would be willing to bet they are better than at least 3 of the bottom 4 teams.
I would say they are probably definitely as good as several of the teams selected into the Open. That is why I said I personally thought they belonged there. But I think we have to wait to see what happens tonight and on Friday.
Thanks on the St. Ignatius clarification. I have no homework on them this season. I was basing that on their past history.
Yea i agree it will depend on other upsets in other sections. It will also depend on how the committee sees their number of losses. Is it better to play a quality team and lose or play nobody's and have only 3-4 losses? I know my answer but I dont know theirs lol
My original list of the 8 Open teams from a few weeks ago is Mitty, Carondelet, BOD, Pinewood, CN, St Mary's, Miramonte and SHC. Only viable replacements for SHC would be Salesian, McClatchy, Heritage or Campolinda- probably depending on if one of these teams were to pull off an upset in their respective Section championship games..
Hey SMS may have as many loses as SHC or close to it? But I doubt the number of loses will define or keep SMS out of the Open.
I'm not a follow every rule/criteria type of person. But I think of the bubble teams Heritage and Campolindo based on recent past history may not meet the criteria? But if they both pull out the NCS Championship then perhaps that will be enough to get them in?
Very true, but their situation is different with the injuries and being on the uptick at the tail end of the season. If they (SMS) win their section in a blowout it looks vastly different than losing in the semi's in a blowout, even if it is an open division.
SMS will most likely win their Section though. Plus their losses can be attributed to their injuries, hopefully that is something that the committee will take into consideration. They are at full strength again now, and boy, I wouldn't want to play this team right now. If St Mary's were to play Mitty in 2nd round of Open playoffs, that would be one exciting game. I think you have to move St Mary's up to 4 or 5 seed so that game might be coming down the pike. The big benefit for Mitty would be playing it at their home gym.
I would venture to say losing in the CCS open as opposed to losing or winning in a another section divisional carries more weight. The only way SHC does not go is if they don't fill out the bracket with eight or they take an additional team from SJS. I still think the eight teams from from a 3-3-2 split some how some way.
No, I think SMS would be just squeaking in past a few other bubble teams. They have a lot of loses so they should rightfully be rewarded the 8th seed. Why should us fans have to wait on the Mitty vs SMS matchup until the 2nd or 3rd game? I'm sure 1-3 are not looking forward to playing SMS in the 1st round. Regardless to when they play, or when anyone else plays, only one team will advance to the Open state championship.
Then they should probably get 3, 4, or 5?
But let me take a guess off the top of my head....... Carondelet will be seeded 2nd or 3rd and SMS will get the 6th or 7th seed to give us the same SMS vs Carondelet opening round as last season? I think 1-3 would prefer to play a different opener than SMS. So where they are seeded is not as big a deal as where CW ends up North or South, but that is the 2nd biggest decision. Regardless to where CW and SMS (two very experienced, talented, and capable teams end up) only one team will win the Open State title. But it is fair to say seeding does impact things.
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So I'll pose the question again as I never got a response on the other thread.. Does the 3rd place game matter? Does a SHC win/loss help/hurt them? Will a Valley win boost their resume? Do teams play to win this game? I have never seen one
Wow, suffice to say that March 5th will be interesting!!! There will be some teams that are not happy with their seedings/placements either way. I feel the seedings will definitely impact things. And for those teams on the bubble for being selected into Open, I would think each of them will be favorite to win NorCal championship and possibly State Championship in their respective divisions if they don't get placed into Open Division. (Miramonte, McClatchy, SHC, Salesian)
The more I read here the more it looks likely that Clovis West will wind up in the North. The South Open tourney is loaded even without them. It would make competitive sense to shift CW north up Highway 5.
I'm not so sure the North is any weaker than the South is already. North has Mitty, SMS, Carondelet, BOD, Pinewood, MM, CN, McClatchy, Salesian, SHC, Heritage, Campolindo, Lincoln, SMB,ESP, BC,CV,Berkeley, Folsom, VC,WC,Oakridge, Sac,Vanden, etc.....
Thanks but no thanks. CW can stay where they have always been loved and needed.
Why would anyone decide to place the #1 and #2 seed in the same region? Unless they were cheating to give another an advantage?
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I see no benefit in placing SH in open since they are not going to beat Mitty, SMS, Pinewood, or carondelet. Let them be in D3 and go for back to back.
They might move SHC to D2 where the real belong. The committee for NORCAL change a lot of teams during the football Norcal playoffs this year!!!! D2 vs Sac High will be a great game for NORCAL Finals.
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