It's usually pointless responding to you about anything. You’re the poster child of bias for SoCal. And you've had your head so far up your @$$ about Folsom the past decade that it's nearly impossible to take you seriously. But I'll give it a shot anyway.
Moreover, you should be the last person calling out someone for non-nonchalantly throwing out opinions/statements. That's your M.O., usually cloaked in some type of sarcasm or snark --- as are excuses, which is ironic that you are the originator and caretaker of the "excuse thread", but I digress....
As for citing basis, if I could bring anything compelling to table aside from personal observation and subjective opinion -- don't you think I would? Anybody that contributes to this site regularly knows that I typically back up what I say whenever possible.
In this case, it's subjective opinion. I can no more prove it than you can disprove it.
How about this. How about you cite basis (beyond subjective opinion) for Folsom not beating the lower 2/3rd's of the Trinity.
Hint: OLu, JSerra, Servite and Margarita getting boat raced by SJB and MD 70-6 on a consistent basis the past 7 years surely doesn’t provide any. And daisy-chaining score comparisons among common opponents doesn't mean a thing either.
This needs to work both ways. OLu, JSerra, Servite and Margarita don’t get the benefit of the doubt either.
I get it. You're on your high horse because Servite is relevant for the first time in years. Like MD and SJB before them, apparently they grew tired of getting their head kicked in by DLS. And Servite doubly hated getting boat raced by SJB and MD the past 7 years so they decided to join the arms race. Good for them.
But this goes beyond any of that. You have such a high opinion of and superiority complex toward SoCal teams that it clouds your thinking.
Most acknowledge that by sheer population and enrollment numbers there is far more depth (of good teams) in SoCal than there is in NorCal. But up until the transfer wars began in recent years, that didn't mean SoCal's best teams were better than NorCal's best teams.
Isn't that what we discovered in 2001 when DLS beat loaded POLY? Like most, I'm sure you didn't expect that outcome. How about when Grant Union beat the PAC5 Champ in 2008? And Granite Bay did the same in 2012? And when Folsom boat raced Serra-Gardena in the SBG in 2010? And when Palo Alto beat Centennial-Corona in the SBG also in 2010?
After each and every one of those results above -- and even a few others not listed -- the Sammy excuse train was full speed ahead.
"it was because of the rain", "they didn't take the game or opponent seriously", "our teams were beat up in our meat grinder playoff bracket".
Yadda yadda yadda.
Like it or not, Folsom has been been one of the best teams in NorCal for over a decade now. They've arguably been the #2 team behind DLS over that entire span. To believe that they couldn't compete with or beat the lower half of any CA league is pretty shortsighted and naive.
If you really want to play the game of dissecting what I said:
- "for the past 7 years they could compete with the lower half of that league"
- "and probably win most those games"
The second line is certainly debatable, but, again, is merely subjective opinion based upon observation and also knowing how much talent Folsom has churned out over the past 7 years and how good most of their teams have been, most notably 2014, 2016 and 2018. They've produced numerous D1 FBS athletes, including a couple NFL players.
Also, "most" just means 1 more than half. Winning 6 of 10 would qualify as winning most, wouldn't it?
"Probably" indicates it's not a foregone conclusion, but rather something someone considers "likely".
You clearly don't agree. No problem. But is what I stated really all that controversial? And can you prove the opposite? Nope.
Lastly, you selectively ignored the very last sentence wherein I acknowledged that we have no way to know for sure since they didn't schedule or play those games. Was that stated too "non-nonchalantly" to pick up on?
So here we are back to square one. Giving our subjective opinions. And here you are getting all riled up over it.
You talk about "non-nonchalantly" throwing things out, then you say this?
If the topic is Folsom not scheduling the way we think they should, then we agree. However this isn't college football with a National playoff system in place. Not every HS program and coach thinks about or cares about this $#!t like you, I or anybody else here does. You or I assuming or questioning motivation is really ridiculous.
I often been critical of Folsom's scheduling over the years. I've stated that, until scheduling DLS recently, they never seem to schedule anyone they don't expect to beat. But so what? Do they care what ThunderRam or Sammy think?
Furthermore, just because they don't schedule those games doesn't mean they would lose those hypothetical matchups. You're essentially saying that it's unfair to assume they would win a game they don't schedule when the reverse is also true. You can't assume Servite, OLu, JSerra, and Margarita would win games they didn't schedule and play either, right?
So what's left to do besides offer subjective opinion on hypotheticals?
BTW, since none of those "other" Trinity League teams are scheduling the top non-DLS teams from NorCal -- is it then safe to say they don't believe they could win those games? Because, according to Sammy logic, if their coaches thought they could win those games, they would have been on the schedule. Right? SMH.
Let me just leave you with this last bit of factual info:
DLS is 5-0 against Folsom and 5-0 against Servite. All games played since 2010.
Average score against Folsom is 36-14. Score differential is -22.
Average score against Servite is 42-17. Score differential is -25.
The only other program from the bottom 4 of the Trinity to face DLS was OLu, who lost 42-3.
While I already acknowledged that score comparisons and daisy chaining doesn't mean a thing, you wanted basis cited for stating such a thing.
And looking at that should tell anyone that Folsom could fit right in with those teams as they seem to perform equally against DLS with Folsom actually being a bit better.
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