Larry, you are a bit of an Oak Ridge homer. I think the SFL is overrated this year. Oak Ridge chief amongst them. They are weak!
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Larry, you are a bit of an Oak Ridge homer. I think the SFL is overrated this year. Oak Ridge chief amongst them. They are weak!
OR going to lose this one. Jenner is just ‘ok’.
Strong arm, but......
OR doing a decent job on D but MT even better.
Strong arm, but......
OR doing a decent job on D but MT even better.
I was one of the few people who thought Liberty would roll CVC. One of best offenses in Norcal this year. One of the best QB's I've ever seen.
Damn good football team.
Very disappointed with OR QB. Agree. Great arm but didn't develop like I had hoped. I thought Soph should have gotten more reps. He's going to be much better and more dynamic. OR has a bright future with a lot of young players on that team.
Sophomore is a talent. I’ve seen a lot of him over the past 5 years. Hopefully he has matured. He’s athletic, fast and tough one on one. Good arm too.
Yea with all the soph’s on varsity this year OR should be very good the next two years.
Jenner feels like an unfinished product. Throws too many balls into tight coverage.
Agreed. Solid future. Soph is very athletic and can run. Will be another dimension OR didn't have this year.
Liberty 42 CVC 14 Final
Liberty completely dominated the second half of the game. They scored their first TD with 15 seconds left in the half and went on to 6 straight offensive series for TDs.
Liberty completely dominated the second half of the game. They scored their first TD with 15 seconds left in the half and went on to 6 straight offensive series for TDs.
No comment. I will say neither of these teams are “open” caliber teams. DLS and Folsom seem to be the only two programs that can compete with what the south will bring in the open. After that there is a significant drop off since south sends most all their elite teams home.
Totally different ball game in the second half with monterey trail out scoring oak ridge 34-6 in second half. The final was 48-20.
Does anyone fell monterey trail will give folsom a game? And what about liberty, do they stand a chance against dls? Id like to think so, otherwise why play the game
Does anyone fell monterey trail will give folsom a game? And what about liberty, do they stand a chance against dls? Id like to think so, otherwise why play the game
I think MT will give the blue field team some resistance. They have the athletes and are disciplined. Don’t think they’ll win but they give em a game. 2-3 TD game.
Well MD beat SJB last night and not many thought that was possible. Of course MD believed they could do it. I’m not sure any team in NORCAL truly believes they can beat DLS, and there in lies the problem.
I think it will be ugly and a blowout by halftime. I walked away from watching Folsom play the other night just shaking my head. Totally different level. You think MT has athletes... The best Folsom players now are not just D1 players they are elite D1 players with future pro potential. I've said it all year. One of the greatest (if not) teams in SJS history. Bad matchup for MT. Folsom D is better than its every been since I've been following the program.
Watch that DLS game again and you will not think Folsom isn't capable of beating the spartans.
I think Liberty gives DLS a game btw.
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you got Cardinal Newman score wrong LL
Cardinal Newman 56
Encinal 21
Final
Encinal got 2 late td's vs CN backups who played the entire 4th qtr.
CN QB Jackson Pavitt had a pretty good night...
23-24 375 yds 6 pass TD's 1 run TD
you got Cardinal Newman score wrong LL
Cardinal Newman 56
Encinal 21
Final
Encinal got 2 late td's vs CN backups who played the entire 4th qtr.
CN QB Jackson Pavitt had a pretty good night...
23-24 375 yds 6 pass TD's 1 run TD
This is exactly why DLS will not lose in Norcal. 99.9% of games are lost before they even start. When they do lose, it will be against a team they have little to no history with.
whoa.... MD beating SJB is not an upset. Its one school with 24 D1 players vs another with the same #. MD is the reigning state/national champ. Lets not get carried away.
I think you are right!... Liberty looks like the clear #2 in Nor Cal with better wins then Folsom!... Going to be a great NCS open next week!...
I disagree that Folsom is capable of beating DLS... Folsom doesn't play tough enough competition and cant hang with the Physicality of DLS... Folsom would lose by at least 2 TD if they played again...
We've heard it all year, dls and folsom are the two best teams in norcal. They took care of business so far on the field and made it to their respective section championship game. Im sure liberty and monterey trail have heard the same and saw the rankings all season long and want to prove otherwise. Will they show up and show out or are they content with just making it to the championship game? Are we going to see a potential upset or a blow out? Hard to bet against dls or folsom this year, but monterey trail and liberty both look really good on offense, and to me that might be the difference in keeping the game close. This might not be an issue for dls who has played and won a few close games this year already. Folsom however hasnt been challenged since week zero. Will they fold under pressure in a close game or will they dominate the last couple of teams in route to another state title? Only time will tell. I dont have a dog in either fight, as my team was sent home early. I just want to see a good game and will support whomever wins when we head down south.
Again not the point how many D1 players they have now is it. Not many gave them much of a chance after the beat down they took about a month back. MD however always felt they could win and did, we don’t see that sort of confidence from fans and teams when faced with playing DLS up north here. It always seems easier to just use the built in excuses for failure.
And a few didn’t...
And finally we’ll get to see them play TKA, who is being described as the 2nd coming of Aptos High lately. I hope that’s true as this Carmel team deserves a team that can really force them to dig deep. If TKA is that team we should be in for one heck of a DV finals!
I agree with Larry on this one. Using the MD game as a reference when talking about a monumental upset, should MT do the unthinkable and beat Folsom, is a poor comparison. MT might have some athletes, but the athletes on Folsom are on a different level. Both MD and SJB have elite athletes and both schools are very comparable. It really isn't a surprise that they turned the table in this game. I saw the the first game as a fluke and not really true representation of how closely matched those schools are and game 2 proves that. Very close competitive game. I don't see Folsom and MT as comparable at all.
I am not sure how you put Liberty as Nor Cal # 2...no one on their right mind would state that...Folsom is ranked as high as 16 nationally, #5 in state..lost to DLS in concord only 14 - 0 in first game with 5 turnovers, 1 in which a bad ref call was made on 1 yrd line of dls and had folsom scored they would have been up 7 - 0..total momentum changer....folsom beat chaminade by the same difference that sjb beat them and folsom travelled to So Cal to play...the only two nor cal teams who could match up with md is dls and folsom..these teams are at a very different level than rest of nor cal...if dls and folsom were in a rematch i would take folsom...but game would be close...even if liberty beatd dls, calhisports is suggesting folsom gets the nod because they would match up better with MD.....if liberty loses and gets nod to face folsom in d1aa (and not central)...folsom will beat liberty handily - by at least close to 21 or more...not to discount liberty and i hope they beat dls but there is no sane argument to make that liberty is nor cal 2
Sigh. Not talking in reference to MT or for that matter Folsom. Talking about the boogie man of NorCal HS football, and how people/teams lose that game before they ever step on the field. Used the MD game only as a example because many people didn’t give them a shot after they were beat down earlier. You can use whatever game suits you like CV over Pitt or Ant over CV point is teams lose to DLS more often than not before the coin flip. That’s the point, and they use excuses to deflect why they lost. It gets very tiresome. I hope liberty beats DLS in all honesty but does Liberty really hope they win that game?
They've tied twice - Palma and Clayton Valley and Bellarmine should have, and been to a couple close calls at others. They lost to Clovis West (in the center of the state). Some day they will lose in Norcal and that will be a special day.
OR had 8 eighth graders held back this year as well in the Youth system so the future is bright.
Do you think it is time for the Folsom fans to stop reliving the DLS/Folsom game. The fact is that an elite defense like DLS's is what causes turnovers. Add to the fact that DLS had a MUCH tougher schedule this year than Folsom. I don't think any real knowledgeable fan would say Folsom could beat DLS in a rematch.
I also think Folsom fans need to stop saying that Folsom has not only D1 standouts, but future pro players. Let Badger and the Ngata's first go to college.
I also think Folsom fans need to stop saying that Folsom has not only D1 standouts, but future pro players. Let Badger and the Ngata's first go to college.
Couple thoughts on some games coming up.
I've been on the Liberty bandwagon all year long after they beat my Newman team earlier in the year. (arguably one of Newmans best teams under Cronin) And everything I read said Newman played them as good if not better than. That puts it in perspective how good Newman is in D3. With that said I think Liberty gives DLS all they can handle. This will be a great football game. I thought CVC was no match for Liberty and they weren't. Adjustments after halftime and the best team came out easily ahead. I can guarantee you the Liberty kids think they can win this game.
As for MT and Folsom I just don't see an opponent that is on the same level as Folsom. Not taking anything away from a a great 12-0 MT season. But this one will be decided quickly and by halftime I could see it 28-7 with Folsom pulling away by 4-5 scores after the break. And honestly I've watched a lot of pro's play over the years. I said Jonah Williams was the greatest HS lineman I've seen in person. Well guess what.. A few NFL scouts think the same thing. So when you see pro's play on the HS field its ok calling them out. And Folsom has some. Its like watching MD play last year with JT Daniels and Brown. Guess what... Pro's.
I've been on the Liberty bandwagon all year long after they beat my Newman team earlier in the year. (arguably one of Newmans best teams under Cronin) And everything I read said Newman played them as good if not better than. That puts it in perspective how good Newman is in D3. With that said I think Liberty gives DLS all they can handle. This will be a great football game. I thought CVC was no match for Liberty and they weren't. Adjustments after halftime and the best team came out easily ahead. I can guarantee you the Liberty kids think they can win this game.
As for MT and Folsom I just don't see an opponent that is on the same level as Folsom. Not taking anything away from a a great 12-0 MT season. But this one will be decided quickly and by halftime I could see it 28-7 with Folsom pulling away by 4-5 scores after the break. And honestly I've watched a lot of pro's play over the years. I said Jonah Williams was the greatest HS lineman I've seen in person. Well guess what.. A few NFL scouts think the same thing. So when you see pro's play on the HS field its ok calling them out. And Folsom has some. Its like watching MD play last year with JT Daniels and Brown. Guess what... Pro's.
People are hyping this Folsom team up a little too much. The SJS is waaaaay down and Folsom, with the exception of the game against De La Salle, were favorite to blow out every other team on their schedule. Once again, they did little to challenge themselves. We don't know how good they are. Our only sample size is that they lost to a De la Salle team that was led by a sophmore qb and a stingy defense. Would love to see a re-match.
I'm wondering why Folsom hasnt scheduled Bosco, MD, and or Centennial. St. Mary's has managed to schedule MD several times.
But we gotta be realistic about SJS football. It's not very strong right now. There's a shift taking place in the SJS. Privates like Capital and Central Catholic are moving up to play the big boys. Interestingly enough, these two programs have had a ton of success in the smaller divisions...Will br interesting to see how the SJS landscape looks in another 5 years...
I'm wondering why Folsom hasnt scheduled Bosco, MD, and or Centennial. St. Mary's has managed to schedule MD several times.
But we gotta be realistic about SJS football. It's not very strong right now. There's a shift taking place in the SJS. Privates like Capital and Central Catholic are moving up to play the big boys. Interestingly enough, these two programs have had a ton of success in the smaller divisions...Will br interesting to see how the SJS landscape looks in another 5 years...
Been watching HS football in the SJS and SFL since the 1990's and I have no idea what you are talking about. Hyping this team up? Have you seen Folsom play? They are that good. I have no skin in the game. Don't have kids there but I can appreciate a great team. Better yet a dynasty. As for the SJS.... way down. Don't really buy that either. Central Catholic has been a powerhouse for a long time. That isn't changing. Capital Christian finally got a great coach. They will be a power for years to come if Taylor stays. I don't see any sizable shift you are talking about .
Game I'd like to see..
DLS 14-0 over Folsom
DLS 33-15 over St. Francis
3-point differential.
SF lost its QB mid way through the season and the replacement QB is as good or better. St. Francis is playing excellent right now and I think an SF-Folsom game would be quite entertaining. I like Folsom and saw the Folsom-DLS game early on & really not sure who would win St. Francis-Folsom. I find it strange that this SF team is left out of most discussions of the best teams in NorCal.
DLS 14-0 over Folsom
DLS 33-15 over St. Francis
3-point differential.
SF lost its QB mid way through the season and the replacement QB is as good or better. St. Francis is playing excellent right now and I think an SF-Folsom game would be quite entertaining. I like Folsom and saw the Folsom-DLS game early on & really not sure who would win St. Francis-Folsom. I find it strange that this SF team is left out of most discussions of the best teams in NorCal.
Need more alum on this site to hype them up! I thought they were very good after their honor bowl win but not much talk about them on this site.
JT Daniels as a pro? Lets give him a few more years at USC to see. As I said before, let the star players at Folsom first go to college before declaring them as pros. remember that Joe Ngata was shut down by a DLS defensive back that no one ever heard of.
I think some of get lost in all the hype about how an athlete is a 4 or 5 star talent and how that can translate into success after hs. I strongly believe folsom is successful for one big reason, great coaching! There are a lot of other layers that make up a successful program that we all addressed in another thread so no need to elaborate further for now. I also believe because of the coaches scheme and system, this allows players to be more successful, translating into more exposure, that leads to more oppurtunity. As an athelete just do your job and let coaches put you in position to be successful. Pretty much a motto ive heard throughout my career. I think the talent at folsom in the skill position is a mute point to me. Every year since 09 they have had a good offense no matter who the qb or skill players are. Again thats because of coaching. After watching lets say monterey trail yesterday, lets put their student-athletes number 14, 17, 34, and 18 in the folsom system and we are calling all of them a 4 or 5 star talent destined for success at the next level(s). How many touchdowns have the folsom skilled players scored untouched? I can count 3 or 4 just in the grant game. To me thats a testament to great coaching not great athletes. Im not knocking their athletes because they have great hands, run good routes, and make plays, but place them at the school they were originally supposed to attend and they probably still make a lot of plays but dont get no where the same hype as a 4 or 5 star student-athlete. Which is why they probably choose to attend folsom in the first place (good decision on there part). Again this is not a knock on there student-athletes, but more a praise to the folsom coaching staff. Beating dls wont come at the hands of a few good player, but instead at the hands of a good coaching staff. Believe it or not if folsom and dls keep playing each other on a yearly basis, folsom will end the streak real soon. Coach R's coaching has come along way since those mistakes he made in those blowout losses in 2012 and 2013. He is closing the coaching gap between him and coach al. When that happens will they start their own nor cal streak?
