NCS open-division 3 seedings

[Smallveteran]

Christmas is coming and nothing better than imagining the section playoff seedings. With the new format starting, it is shaping up to be very interesting. Especially interesting when we start to evolve into latter part of div 1 and all of div 2.

North coast section

Open

Salesian
DLS
SRV
Clayton
Moreau
Dougherty *

Div 1

Ygnacio
Campolindo
Dublin
Liberty
Bishop Odowd
Amador Valley
Redwood *
Benicia
Alameda
Monte Vista
California
Northgate
Pittsburg

Div 2

Cardinal Newman
St Marys Berkeley
Acalanes
Heritage
Mckinleyville
Washington
University
Montgomery
Terralinda
Livermore
Arcata
College Park

Div 3

Branson


Div 4

Cornerstone

 

[inazone1]

You have to keep in mind if your are not moved up to the open division bracket you can only be moved up 2 divisions you can't jump from D4 or D5 to D1.

 

[Smallveteran]

You have to keep in mind if your are not moved up to the open division bracket you can only be moved up 2 divisions you can't jump from D4 or D5 to D1.

college park looked like a div 2 level team and cornerstone (stays healthy) looks to have won the div 4 north coast championship .

 

[Smallveteran]

Adding Washington to the div 2 NCS group. Tonight is a matchup of the unbeatens wash vs Livermore. Will find out more soon

 

[larry legend33]

Newman and St Mary's of Berkely look like they could be a on a collision course. Both are very good.

 

[Smallveteran]

Newman and St Mary's of Berkely look like they could be a on a collision course. Both are very good.

Yes ! Does Dougherty drop out of open and into division 1 . if they do not have Stokes ? Or are they still good enough ?

 

[larry legend33]

Larry are you the north bay guru ? Who are some of the teams to be on the lookout for ? Other than Newman and Redwood. On any level !

Hahah.. I don't know about that. There is only one @northbaybbguru
I would say right now Newman is the best team north of the bridge. When Redwoods transfers become eligible that of course will change. I think Newman is better than Branson this year. Montgomery is in the mix but had a big fall off with Devries and Wright graduating last year.

 

[Smallveteran]

Battle of unbeaten Washington over Livermore in a close one . These guys have div 2 written all over them! Added Heritage to div 2

 

[Smallveteran]

Campo vs Liberty tommorow

Interesting matchup

 

[Smallveteran]

Added terra Linda to d 2

 

[Smallveteran]

Campo vs Liberty tommorow

Interesting matchup

Updated 12-14 urban victory of shc

North coast section

Open

Salesian
DLS
SRV
Clayton
Moreau
Dougherty *

Div 1

Dublin
Campolindo
Ygnacio Valley
Liberty
Bishop Odowd
Amador Valley
California
Benicia
Northgate
Monte Vista
Alameda
Pittsburg
Redwood *

Div 2

Cardinal Newman
St Marys Berkeley
Terra Linda
Urban
Acalanes
Heritage
University
Berkeley
Mckinleyville
Montgomery
Washington
Windsor
Lick Wilmerding
San Rafael
Arcata
Maria Carrillo

Div 3

Branson
St Joseph Alameda
San Domenico
Rancho Cotate
College Park
Livermore
Mt Eden
Santa Rosa
Marin Catholic
Eureka
Foothill


Div 4

Cornerstone

 

[jordan24]

Riordan is in the Central Coast Section.

 

[Smallveteran]

Does anyone know what base division st Joseph is in ? Couple nice wins this weekend

 

[observer22]

Does anyone know what base division st Joseph is in ? Couple nice wins this weekend

They are D5, but both Sac High & MC are having down years (both 2-4) compared to prior years. St. Joe’s lost by 44 to DLS & lost by 34 to BOD this season. They should be competitive in D5 though.

 

[Smallveteran]

They are D5, but both Sac High & MC are having down years (both 2-4) compared to prior years. St. Joe’s lost by 44 to DLS & lost by 34 to BOD this season. They should be competitive in D5 though.

it may be surprising under the new format. If your beating sac even in a down year. Your probably not going to be playing D5. You might even find yourself in D3. Are they taking 16 teams per division (outside of open) ? If so, this is the current case.

 

[Smallveteran]

Updated 12-19 Dougherty loses to valley Christian, amador loses to Moreau by 16 , Granada stays off list w loss to Rodriguez, Terra Linda up to div 1, campolindo into open, Albany makes list

North coast section

Open

Salesian
DLS
SRV
Moreau
Dublin
Campolindo

Div 1

Ygnacio Valley
Dougherty *
Clayton
Bishop Odowd
California
Benicia
Liberty
Northgate
Amador
Monte Vista
Alameda
Pittsburg
Terra Linda
Redwood *

Div 2

St Mary’s Berkeley
Cardinal Newman
Urban
Acalanes
Heritage
University
Mckinleyville
Montgomery
Washington
Windsor
Berkeley
Lick Wilmerding
San Rafael
Arcata
Maria Carrillo

Div 3

Branson
Cornerstone
St Joseph Alameda
San Domenico
Rancho Cotate
College Park
Livermore
Albany
Mt Eden
Santa Rosa
Marin Catholic
Eureka
Foothill


Div 4

 

[observer22]

I know Granada has had a rough start. Not sure if they have any transfers that will become eligible? They’ve been a high level team the past few seasons. You have them not making the playoffs?

 

[inazone1]

Can't see them not making it even if they were to drop down to Div 2!!

 

[Smallveteran]

I know Granada has had a rough start. Not sure if they have any transfers that will become eligible? They’ve been a high level team the past few seasons. You have them not making the playoffs?

It is an evolving list . They were most certainly looked at today. Slight concern about not meeting one of the three criteria to qualify. Limited time to research considering how many teams there are and what point we are at in the season. It was best to leave them off the list and see if they can strike up a couple of more wins. Before any further time is invested into them.

 

[Smallveteran]

I know Granada has had a rough start. Not sure if they have any transfers that will become eligible? They’ve been a high level team the past few seasons. You have them not making the playoffs?

Have not heard anything about players sitting on the bench. Their jv and freshmen last year were average.

 

[kiddman32]

As far as Clayton Valley goes... They lost Elijah Perryman to injury while at Gridley, and I have been told he's almost certainly out for the season.

They had already lost a top player during the summer to injury, so they are going to have to find some offense somewhere...

 

[Smallveteran]

Can't see them not making it even if they were to drop down to Div 2!!

So you guys inspired me to take a further look at Granadas schedule. it does appear on the surface. They are very close to not qualifying. We will keep them off the list for now. we hope they are able to pull off a couple of upsets.

 

[Smallveteran]

As far as Clayton Valley goes... They lost Elijah Perryman to injury while at Gridley, and I have been told he's almost certainly out for the season.

They had already lost a top player during the summer to injury, so they are going to have to find some offense somewhere...

This is really sad news. Did not know this. Had heard he did not return to the game. That was it. I am sending him healing powers and strength. We all want to see these boys have the opportunity to see what their season becomes. To stay healthy ! We know how much is invested by and into these players. Stay strong Perryman fam

 

[Smallveteran]

As far as Clayton Valley goes... They lost Elijah Perryman to injury while at Gridley, and I have been told he's almost certainly out for the season.

They had already lost a top player during the summer to injury, so they are going to have to find some offense somewhere...

I do believe this will drop them into div 1

Leading to Dublin entering the open !?!?

 

[inazone1]

Or ygnacio valley if they beat out clayton
Valley and a very underestimated campolindo team to win that league.

 

[bella123]

Terra Linda ranked in California top 25!

Terra Linda High School (San Rafael, CA) Varsity Basketball

See the Terra Linda Trojans's basketball schedule, roster, rankings, standings and more on MaxPreps.com

www.maxpreps.com

 

[Smallveteran]

Terra Linda ranked in California top 25!

Terra Linda High School (San Rafael, CA) Varsity Basketball

See the Terra Linda Trojans's basketball schedule, roster, rankings, standings and more on MaxPreps.com

www.maxpreps.com

Bella we did take your info and act on it . By bumping up Terra Linda to the #3 spot in div 2. Up and over urban with their victory recently . They have another quality win vs cornerstone. Cornerstone is not good enough for open thus they are maxed out into div 4. Make no mistake about it Cornerstone is a high level div 2 team. With the two aforementioned wins vs high level 2 teams. This is what can justify for the moment. TL is the new 3 seed in div 2 . Let’s see some continued consistency and hopefully another quality victory. Go Terra Linda !

 

[TC112]

Cornerstone is D5 and can go up to D3

 

[510sportsfan]

Will be interesting to track as the season goes along. Early versions of the maxpreps rankings are out and are sure to change a lot over the next couple of weeks. The initial rankings always have some pretty wild miscalculations

 

[kiddman32]

Yeah... the MaxPreps rankings start to make some sense after the post-holiday tournaments. By then, most have played roughly ten games, and there have will have even been repeat meetings in a few cases.

 

[Smallveteran]

Cornerstone is D5 and can go up to D3

When researching we do see an updated version from November 7th and it does list their boys program as division 5. Good information good looking out.

 

[Smallveteran]

Cornerstone is D5 and can go up to D3

Being div 3 should provide a much better competitive landscape for all. Possible Branson versus cornerstone clash?

 

[Fentons Cream]

-If O'Dowd wins their league they have an argument to be in the Open regradless of their record. They play a usually tough schedule.
-Clayton Valley without Perryman means they are probably out of the discussion.
-How in the world do you have Moreau Catholic in the open? They have had better teams not make the open.
-Redwood will have shot also to get in, they were ranked high last year and return almost everyone and added TT
-Ygancio Valley and St. Mary's Berkeley also have shot to get in the open.

The rest of the list and divisions will depend on what the NCS does with the Open

 

[Smallveteran]

-If O'Dowd wins their league they have an argument to be in the Open regradless of their record. They play a usually tough schedule.
-Clayton Valley without Perryman means they are probably out of the discussion.
-How in the world do you have Moreau Catholic in the open? They have had better teams not make the open.
-Redwood will have shot also to get in, they were ranked high last year and return almost everyone and added TT
-Ygancio Valley and St. Mary's Berkeley also have shot to get in the open.

The rest of the list and divisions will depend on what the NCS does with the Open

No debate about B Odowd - let’s see if that happens

Agree about Clayton

Moreau has couple bad showings vs DV and O Tech. Sandwiched in between those games is a victory over Modesto. Moreau has a high ceiling with the players on their roster, that are actually playing (not hypothetically) . Seasoned coach! Currently who belongs in the open over Moreau ? Let’s see another team step up and will replace em.

Redwood will be in the open with Carr. Right now he is not on the floor and we expect better from the rest of the unit.

Yv stays healthy they do have a shot to get in. St Mary’s beat yv seems practical for them to have a shot at the open

 

[510sportsfan]

I don't see how moreau could get there in the rankings. They play in a weak league and chose to use 4 non league games in hawaii against seemingly weak competition there too. They do have 5 non-league games left so if they roll the table on that and those teams all turn out to be pretty good then maybe but I don't see it happening. More likely to be a top seed in D2

 

[Smallveteran]

12/21 Cardinal Newman loses to Clayton double digits, Clayton wins without star player, Albany improves 3 spots, Las Lomas enters the list win over College Park, college park moves back to div 3 (3 out of 4 losses), rancho cotate improves to div 2

North coast section

Open

Salesian
DLS
SRV
Moreau
Dublin
Campolindo

Div 1

Ygnacio Valley
Clayton
Dougherty * stokes out til further notice
Bishop Odowd
California
Northgate
Liberty
Amador
Alameda
Benicia
Monte Vista
Pittsburg * football players just returning
Terra Linda
Redwood * Carr has been out

Div 2

St Mary’s Berkeley
Acalanes
Cardinal Newman
Urban
Montgomery
Heritage
University
Las Lomas
Mckinleyville
Eureka
Washington
San Rafael
Rancho Cotate
Arcata
Bethel

Div 3

Branson
Cornerstone
St Joseph Alameda
San Domenico
Albany
Livermore
College Park
Maria Carrillo
Mt Eden
Berkeley
Santa Rosa
Foothill - Pleasanton
Marin Catholic
Eureka
St Helena

 

[Smallveteran]

THE NCS BOARD (not a power rankings board general idea of what it would look like if NCS started today)

Updated 12/24/24

Open

Salesian
DLS
SRV
Dublin
Moreau
Campolindo

Div 1

Ygnacio Valley
Clayton
Cal High
Dougherty * stokes out til further notice
Bishop Odowd
Liberty
Northgate
Amador
Alameda
Monte Vista
Benicia
Redwood * Carr has been out
Acalanes
Albany
Pittsburg * football players just returning

Div 2

St Mary’s Berkeley
Cardinal Newman
Urban
University
Terra Linda
Lick Wilmerding
Windsor
Las Lomas
Montgomery
Rancho Cotate
Newark Memorial
San Rafael
Berkeley
Livermore
Maria Carrillo
Eureka

Div 3

Branson
Cornerstone
San Domenico
St Joseph Alameda
Marin Catholic
Washington (Fremont)
Bethel
Mckinleyville
Archie Williams
Arcata
Mt Eden
Heritage
College Park
Santa Rosa
Piedmont
St Helena

 

[observer22]

Just curious why Moreau is ahead of 11-0 Dublin? Moreau is a good team, but lost by 21 to Dougherty, who you’ve got down in D1. I’m not saying Moreau couldn’t beat Dublin if they played, but on paper maybe Dublin should be higher? Are there players that were missing?

 

[Smallveteran]

Just curious why Moreau is ahead of 11-0 Dublin? Moreau is a good team, but lost by 21 to Dougherty, who you’ve got down in D1. I’m not saying Moreau couldn’t beat Dublin if they played, but on paper maybe Dublin should be higher? Are there players that were missing?

We did a review of both teams

After the review , we do feel Dublin has a slight stronger body of work. The Smash of Whitney, victory over Destiny, double digit win over Cal high , meanwhile finding a way to stay undefeated and doing it convincingly.

The ego has been checked at the door and we have made a move with the rankings. We appreciate your question.
It most certainly had merit. Possibly that’s one of the things that makes this list so great. Merry Christmas

 

[Fentons Cream]

Just curious why Moreau is ahead of 11-0 Dublin? Moreau is a good team, but lost by 21 to Dougherty, who you’ve got down in D1. I’m not saying Moreau couldn’t beat Dublin if they played, but on paper maybe Dublin should be higher? Are there players that were missing?

Observer,

I said the same thing on this thread on Dec 17th. Ive seen most of the top teams play in the NCS and there is no way Moreau should be in the Open. This is leading me to believe that the creators of the list are family/friends/fans of the program.

Salesian
DLS
SRV
Dublin
Campolindo
California
St. Mary's
Terra Linda
Ygnaico Valley
Clayton Valley

In my opinion are the 10 in NCS right now. Of course this will change as you get past holiday tourneys and move towards league.

MC actually has a chance in D2 or D3 to represent the north, they have no chance in open or D1.