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WCAL Football 2018 - San Jose Merc All Bay Area Team

For the record, MaxPreps has some sobering WCAL hoops data for those trying to argue for Riordan's excellence compared to Serra in that sport:

In the last 14 WCAL seasons (2004-5 to 2017-18) _ that's as far back as the MaxPreps records go), the Crusaders have posted a winning league record on three occasions with one title. Serra, on the other hand, has managed winning league records 10 times with one title (not to mention a state title and a runner-up finish as well). Riordan has won 10 or more league games once. Serra has done it seven times. Riordan has had a losing league record eight times, Serra once.

This does not mean that the San Mateans are a Bay Area basketball powerhouse. That would be over-stating the case. Under the longtime guidance of their head coach, the ultra-animated Chuck Rapp, Serra has been consistently competitive but typically not utterly overwhelming. Rapp's tenure has produced more success than the school has ever seen. To be historically accurate, Riordan's Catholic league (CAL and WCAL combined) legacy is far more impressive than Serra's. But certainly the last 14 seasons have seen a Serra surge as Riordan has eased off.

How this all got on a football thread I have no idea. Apologies all around.
Serdaprs mentioned the transfers who went to Riordan and the WCAL win totals at 4-5 wins since 2004...Also pointed out during the Padres successful run, transfers have played a vital role in both of its appearances in the State Title games, including its State Title victory. I also used MaxPreps to set the record straight which included 2 NorCal runner ups in its respected division and some solid wins in NorCal regionals during that time, despite subpar league record. Now back to regular scheduled programming. ;-)
 
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Serdaprs mentioned the transfers who went to Riordan and the WCAL win totals at 4-5 wins since 2004...Also pointed out during the Padres successful run, transfers have played a vital role in both of its appearances in the State Title games, including its State Title victory. I also used MaxPreps to set the record straight which included 2 NorCal runner ups in its respected division and some solid wins in NorCal regionals during that time, despite subpar league record. Now back to regular scheduled programming. ;-)

I dont even remember Serra in the last 30+ years of having a losing season or even a below .500 in league play. Bellarmine, Mitty, and St. Francis all had a hiccup or two when they were not very good. VC, in a small sample size appears to not care about basketball. Serra is just that team from my memory that is always starting their season as half glass full and either stays that way or more frequently works its way up. And its not like they churn out D1 ball players every year. Besides, Kennedy, Caruso and Killingsworth who else made a huge impact?
 
For the record, MaxPreps has some sobering WCAL hoops data for those trying to argue for Riordan's excellence compared to Serra in that sport:

In the last 14 WCAL seasons (2004-5 to 2017-18) _ that's as far back as the MaxPreps records go), the Crusaders have posted a winning league record on three occasions with one title. Serra, on the other hand, has managed winning league records 10 times with one title (not to mention a state title and a runner-up finish as well). Riordan has won 10 or more league games once. Serra has done it seven times. Riordan has had a losing league record eight times, Serra once.

This does not mean that the San Mateans are a Bay Area basketball powerhouse. That would be over-stating the case. Under the longtime guidance of their head coach, the ultra-animated Chuck Rapp, Serra has been consistently competitive but typically not utterly overwhelming. Rapp's tenure has produced more success than the school has ever seen. To be historically accurate, Riordan's Catholic league (CAL and WCAL combined) legacy is far more impressive than Serra's. But certainly the last 14 seasons have seen a Serra surge as Riordan has eased off.

How this all got on a football thread I have no idea. Apologies all around.
I thought this was a football thread?
 
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jordan - as far as I know the ejection had nothing to do with running into the ref which was viewed as inadvertent. The player in question received a personal foul earlier in the game and a later call of the same resulted in an automatic ejection.

From what I heard, talking a lot...Its ok to lose but don't talk smack when you are getting your a-- handed to you!
 
WCAL Football 2018 - Upcoming Games This Week:

Fri. Nite Lites 10/12:
Sacred Heart Cathedral vs Bellarmine at San Jose City College 7:00pm
Riordan at St. Francis 7:00pm
Serra at Valley Christian 7:00pm

Sat 10/13
Mitty at St. Ignatius 1:00pm

The SHC Irish have some momentum after last weeks 26-21 win over S.I. and also a new QB with an improved offense.
Can the Irish muster enough scoring to take down the Bells? With the new QB I'm giving the Irish the edge in this one.

Can the Crusader's regroup against the Lancer's after last weeks demolition at the hands of the Padres 57-6? SF lost its CCS leading RB before the season started [transferred] and then lost its QB Jack Perry 2 weeks ago. So the Lancer offense isn't quite what it was, especially in terms of passing. With each game the new SF QB will gain some experience and confidence though behind a solid run game. Riordan will have to attempt to slow the run game down or thing could get out of hand quickly.

Padres vs Warrior's is the big one this week as its run vs pass teams. While SF is touted as the best defensive team of the WCAL both Serra & VC are right up there with SF. SO who is the best defense still remains to be seen. What we do know is VC held SF to 1 score via an early INT by VC and Serra's QB Luke Bottari has been red hot completing 75% of his passes. Serra on the other hand will have to contend to stopping or at least slowing down the VC stable of RB's.

Mitty at S.I. is an interesting game and possibly a "trap game" for the Monarch's who come in 4-2. S.I. has the distinction of being "the Best 0-6 team in the CCS" and has played well at times with close losses to Palo Alto, Gonzaga Prep & last week SHC. Is S.I. capable of upending the Monarch's? Mitty comes in as a several score favorite, but as they say S.I. may have a "slugger's chance" on their home turf. A kick-off or punt return, an INT pick-6, fumble recovery deep in Mitty territory - anything early in the game to spark some Wildcat momentum and a possibly upset of monumental proportions could be brewing.

Records:
St. Francis 5-1
Serra 4-2
Mitty 4-2
Valley Christian 4-2
Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-3
Bellarmine 2-4
Riordan 1-5
St. Ignatius 0-6
 
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WCAL Football 2018 - Upcoming Games This Week:

Fri. Nite Lites 10/12:
Sacred Heart Cathedral vs Bellarmine at San Jose City College 7:00pm
Riordan at St. Francis 7:00pm
Serra at Valley Christian 7:00pm

Sat 10/13
Mitty at St. Ignatius 1:00pm

The SHC Irish have some momentum after last weeks 26-21 win over S.I. and also a new QB with an improved offense.
Can the Irish muster enough scoring to take down the Bells? With the new QB I'm giving the Irish the edge in this one.

Can the Crusader's regroup against the Lancer's after last weeks demolition at the hands of the Padres 57-6? SF lost its CCS leading RB before the season started [transferred] and then lost its QB Jack Perry 2 weeks ago. So the Lancer offense isn't quite what it was, especially in terms of passing. With each game the new SF QB will gain some experience and confidence though behind a solid run game. Riordan will have to attempt to slow the run game down or thing could get out of hand quickly.

Padres vs Warrior's is the big one this week as its run vs pass teams. While SF is touted as the best defensive team of the WCAL both Serra & VC are right up there with SF. SO who is the best defense still remains to be seen. What we do know is VC held SF to 1 score via an early INT by VC and Serra's QB Luke Bottari has been red hot completing 75% of his passes. Serra on the other hand will have to contend to stopping or at least slowing down the VC stable of RB's.

Mitty at S.I. is an interesting game and possibly a "trap game" for the Monarch's who come in 4-2. S.I. has the distinction of being "the Best 0-6 team in the CCS" and has played well at times with close losses to Palo Alto, Gonzaga Prep & last week SHC. Is S.I. capable of upending the Monarch's? Mitty comes in as a several score favorite, but as they say S.I. may have a "slugger's chance" on their home turf. A kick-off or punt return, an INT pick-6, fumble recovery deep in Mitty territory - anything early in the game to spark some Wildcat momentum and a possibly upset of monumental proportions could be brewing.

Records:
St. Francis 5-1
Serra 4-2
Mitty 4-2
Valley Christian 4-2
Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-3
Bellarmine 2-4
Riordan 1-5
St. Ignatius 0-6

Sooner or later SI may reward you with a win, the law of averages are on your side. But a serious question, have you seen them play?

If so, what makes you think they have a chance against your other favorite team, Mitty.
 
Sooner or later SI may reward you with a win, the law of averages are on your side. But a serious question, have you seen them play?
If so, what makes you think they have a chance against your other favorite team, Mitty.

Yes rabbit5 I've seen all 8 of the WCAL teams play and understand the reasoning behind the question. A couple of things I guess make me say that S.I. has a "fighter's chance". As I mentioned S.I. had 3 close losses to 3 decent teams of which the best of the 3 Palo Alto at 6-1 is the 5th best rated team in the CCS & S.I. could have won that game [a 21-14 loss]. Paly's only loss was to Wilcox who also beat Valley Christian. Mitty on the other hand was my "dark horse" pick for this season, though a bit of a disappointment & it seems not much has changed from last season. Mitty suffering a 42-6 running clock loss to Serra was expected to be a competitive game and many fans thought it would be close. So Mitty was exposed as not quite ready to battle with the eleite teams of the WCAL just yet. Mitty's loss to Serra though doesn't look quite as bad now that Serra has played both Bells & Riordan with similar, but worse endings. Mitty comes in as the solid #4 team having just beaten up on the hapless Bells by several scores. If S.I. can muster up any offense & possibly disrupt Mitty's QB Shamir Bey then maybe they can make a run at the Monarch's.
 
WCAL Football 2018 - Upcoming Games This Week:

Fri. Nite Lites 10/12:
Sacred Heart Cathedral vs Bellarmine at San Jose City College 7:00pm
Riordan at St. Francis 7:00pm
Serra at Valley Christian 7:00pm

Sat 10/13
Mitty at St. Ignatius 1:00pm

The SHC Irish have some momentum after last weeks 26-21 win over S.I. and also a new QB with an improved offense.
Can the Irish muster enough scoring to take down the Bells? With the new QB I'm giving the Irish the edge in this one.

Can the Crusader's regroup against the Lancer's after last weeks demolition at the hands of the Padres 57-6? SF lost its CCS leading RB before the season started [transferred] and then lost its QB Jack Perry 2 weeks ago. So the Lancer offense isn't quite what it was, especially in terms of passing. With each game the new SF QB will gain some experience and confidence though behind a solid run game. Riordan will have to attempt to slow the run game down or thing could get out of hand quickly.

Padres vs Warrior's is the big one this week as its run vs pass teams. While SF is touted as the best defensive team of the WCAL both Serra & VC are right up there with SF. SO who is the best defense still remains to be seen. What we do know is VC held SF to 1 score via an early INT by VC and Serra's QB Luke Bottari has been red hot completing 75% of his passes. Serra on the other hand will have to contend to stopping or at least slowing down the VC stable of RB's.

Mitty at S.I. is an interesting game and possibly a "trap game" for the Monarch's who come in 4-2. S.I. has the distinction of being "the Best 0-6 team in the CCS" and has played well at times with close losses to Palo Alto, Gonzaga Prep & last week SHC. Is S.I. capable of upending the Monarch's? Mitty comes in as a several score favorite, but as they say S.I. may have a "slugger's chance" on their home turf. A kick-off or punt return, an INT pick-6, fumble recovery deep in Mitty territory - anything early in the game to spark some Wildcat momentum and a possibly upset of monumental proportions could be brewing.

Records:
St. Francis 5-1
Serra 4-2
Mitty 4-2
Valley Christian 4-2
Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-3
Bellarmine 2-4
Riordan 1-5
St. Ignatius 0-6

Great breakdown 26!
My score prediction on this weeks WCAL matchups.

Serra 46 VC 13
Serra dominates LOS on defense, short field for the Padres offense leads to quick scores. Good measuring stick for Serra SF season finale.

Mitty 31 SI 3
Mitty Shamir Bey puts together a complete game, 2 passing TDs 1 rushing TD.

SF 35 RHS 7
Lancers stout defense shuts out Riordan but SF gives up pick six, attempting to work on some type of vertical passing threat for post season.

SHC 28 BCP 24
The Irish improve on their record to 4-3 on the season. Perhaps a wake up call for Janda to abandon the double wing

Potential Season Standings after this weeks matchups

St. Francis 6-1
Serra 5-2
Mitty 5-2
VC 4-3
SHC 4-3
Bells 2-5
RHS 1-6
S.I. 0-7

The most interesting game for me this week is the SHC vs Bells matchup. Maybe a little over the top here but If SHC can find a way to get the W, this could be a real confidence boost for a Frisco Catholic team to see tangible success in a down year in the WCAL. IDK, Even a good showing can inspire some hope for the future?

Also interested to see if the Padres handle their business this week vs. Valley. I think a convincing win here helps set-up a WCAL title matchup with the Lancers and maybe more importantly the confidence needed as we begin to approach CCS title aspirations. It’s never too early to act like a champ. These are the games you need to leave little doubt.

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Of interest, but a lot can change with records from now till then...
October 13th, undefeated VC frosh team squares off with undefeated Serra Frosh
 
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Timing is everything. In a year when the WCAL is not quite up to its traditional standards, this was an opportunity for the three SF schools (which have just five football titles between them since 1967) to make a move on the southern schools. It's not happening, at least not yet. Maybe it will. There's still time.
 
Come to think about it, preliminary roster examinations would indicate that 2019 may well find at least St. Francis and Serra in a rebuilding mode. Not so sure about VC. Mitty should be able to make some hay next year. As for the SF Trinity, that's unclear today. Same goes for the Bells. But there should be a window of opportunity for some of the league's lesser lights next year.
 

Yes rabbit5 I've seen all 8 of the WCAL teams play and understand the reasoning behind the question. A couple of things I guess make me say that S.I. has a "fighter's chance". As I mentioned S.I. had 3 close losses to 3 decent teams of which the best of the 3 Palo Alto at 6-1 is the 5th best rated team in the CCS & S.I. could have won that game [a 21-14 loss]. Paly's only loss was to Wilcox who also beat Valley Christian. Mitty on the other hand was my "dark horse" pick for this season, though a bit of a disappointment & it seems not much has changed from last season. Mitty suffering a 42-6 running clock loss to Serra was expected to be a competitive game and many fans thought it would be close. So Mitty was exposed as not quite ready to battle with the eleite teams of the WCAL just yet. Mitty's loss to Serra though doesn't look quite as bad now that Serra has played both Bells & Riordan with similar, but worse endings. Mitty comes in as the solid #4 team having just beaten up on the hapless Bells by several scores. If S.I. can muster up any offense & possibly disrupt Mitty's QB Shamir Bey then maybe they can make a run at the Monarch's.
In both losses to Pali Alto and Gonzaga Prep, SI was behind and playing catch-up, they haven’t really had a legitimate chance to win any games, save the SH game. But the law of averages would suggest they win a game sooner than later.
 
Come to think about it, preliminary roster examinations would indicate that 2019 may well find at least St. Francis and Serra in a rebuilding mode. Not so sure about VC. Mitty should be able to make some hay next year. As for the SF Trinity, that's unclear today. Same goes for the Bells. But there should be a window of opportunity for some of the league's lesser lights next year.

For SF and Serra in 2019, make it "re-loading" rather than "rebuilding." But 2019 sophomores will be a key part of the process for both teams.
 
[QUOTE="rabbit5, post: 211356, member: 1026"]In both losses to Pali Alto and Gonzaga Prep, SI was behind and playing catch-up, they haven’t really had a legitimate chance to win any games, save the SH game. But the law of averages would suggest they win a game sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, maybe we were watching 2 different Paly-S.I. games as the one I was watching had S.I, ahead in the 3rd quarter before Paly [5th ranked team in CCS as I mentioned] tied it late in 3rd]. Palo Alto scored the winning TD with under 2 minutes to go in the game. So tell me how S.I. had no chance to win again? Lol!

Here's the write-up on the game with S.I. leading through most of 3 quarters & Paly "holding on for the win"...
Like I said previous "If there is such a thing as a good loss"....
 
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[QUOTE="rabbit5, post: 211356, member: 1026"]In both losses to Pali Alto and Gonzaga Prep, SI was behind and playing catch-up, they haven’t really had a legitimate chance to win any games, save the SH game. But the law of averages would suggest they win a game sooner than later.

Hmm, maybe we were watching 2 different Paly-S.I. games as the one I was watching had S.I, ahead in the 3rd quarter before Paly [5th ranked team in CCS as I mentioned] tied it late in 3rd]. Palo Alto scored the winning TD with under 2 minutes to go in the game. So tell me how S.I. had no chance to win again? Lol!

Here's the write-up on the game with S.I. leading through most of 3 quarters & Paly "holding on for the win"...
Like I said previous "If there is such a thing as a good loss"....[/QUOTE]
My mistake I was thinking of the Campo game where they fell way behind.
 
Great breakdown 26!
My score prediction on this weeks WCAL matchups.

Serra 46 VC 13
Serra dominates LOS on defense, short field for the Padres offense leads to quick scores. Good measuring stick for Serra SF season finale.

Mitty 31 SI 3
Mitty Shamir Bey puts together a complete game, 2 passing TDs 1 rushing TD.

SF 35 RHS 7
Lancers stout defense shuts out Riordan but SF gives up pick six, attempting to work on some type of vertical passing threat for post season.

SHC 28 BCP 24
The Irish improve on their record to 4-3 on the season. Perhaps a wake up call for Janda to abandon the double wing

Potential Season Standings after this weeks matchups

St. Francis 6-1
Serra 5-2
Mitty 5-2
VC 4-3
SHC 4-3
Bells 2-5
RHS 1-6
S.I. 0-7

The most interesting game for me this week is the SHC vs Bells matchup. Maybe a little over the top here but If SHC can find a way to get the W, this could be a real confidence boost for a Frisco Catholic team to see tangible success in a down year in the WCAL. IDK, Even a good showing can inspire some hope for the future?

Also interested to see if the Padres handle their business this week vs. Valley. I think a convincing win here helps set-up a WCAL title matchup with the Lancers and maybe more importantly the confidence needed as we begin to approach CCS title aspirations. It’s never too early to act like a champ. These are the games you need to leave little doubt.

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October 13th, undefeated VC frosh team squares off with undefeated Serra Frosh

On the varsity side of the Serra-SF rivalry, a question: Can Serra beat SF five times in 25 months? The Padres were 4-0 vs. SF in 2016 and 2017. They play again in the first week of November in San Mateo.
 
On the varsity side of the Serra-SF rivalry, a question: Can Serra beat SF five times in 25 months? The Padres were 4-0 vs. SF in 2016 and 2017. They play again in the first week of November in San Mateo.

The Curse has lifted. Lol
I think they can, if Serra takes it to the air. The big difference I think is Serra ability to hit the splash plays and outscore SF. Moving from spread, RPO’s, to raider with pass option shown last week that’s a lot to game plan against.

Advantage Serra- Much more explosive offense, QB play, RB play (Coker backup Sanchez) has impressed
Advantage Lancers, stingy defense, excellent gap fill run stopper, Pakola is a Monster.
 
Come to think about it, preliminary roster examinations would indicate that 2019 may well find at least St. Francis and Serra in a rebuilding mode. Not so sure about VC. Mitty should be able to make some hay next year. As for the SF Trinity, that's unclear today. Same goes for the Bells. But there should be a window of opportunity for some of the league's lesser lights next year.

Looks like Lancers graduate 36 seniors from this years roster
Some biggees - Pakola, Perry, Fangupo, Pohahau
Padres around 23 seniors from this years roster
Likewise - Bottari, Lahlouh, Rango, O’Riordan, Ottoboni
 
WCAL Football 2018 – “NorCal Top 20 Revisited”

I post the top CCS teams every week or 2 and also try to keep track of the movement among the top 20 for all of NorCal via Freeman’s rankings both by section and state. I listed the NorCal Top 20 3 weeks ago, so time to see what movement has taken place. 5 teams retain their same spot, 6 teams move up in rankings while 7 drop down in rankings and 2 teams drop out of the top 20 while 2 new teams move into the rankings.

Updated NorCal Top 20 as of Oct. 10th [previous spot in parenthesis]
1. DLS 7-0 [previous #1]
2. Folsom 6-1 [#2]
3. Liberty 8-0 [#5]
4. Central – Fresno 7-0 [#4]
5. Del Oro 7-0 [#10]
6. Pitt 6-2 [#6]
7. Monterey Trail 7-0 [#7]
8. CVC 6-1 [#12]
9. Buchanan-Clovis 5-2 [#3]
10. St. Francis 5-1 [#9]
11. Oak Ridge 5-2 [#8]
12. Card Newman 6-1 [#17]
13. Inderkum 7-0 [#14]
14. Serra 4-2 [#11]
15. Placer-Auburn 7-0 [#16]
16. Capital Christian 8-0 [#15]
17. Central Catholic 7-1 [#13]
18. Wilcox 7-0 [NR]
19. Monte Vista 5-2 [NR]
20. Antioch 6-2 [#20]

* DLS, Folsom, Central-Fresno, Pitt &Monterey Trail = No Change
* Liberty, Del Oro, CVC, Card Newman, Inderkum & Placer-Auburn = Move Up
* Buchanan, St. Francis, Oak Ridge, Serra, Capital Christian, Central Catholic, Antioch = Drop Down
* Freedom & Tulare Union Drop out of Top 20
* Wilcox & Monte Vista break into Top 20 as new teams

** “On the Bubble: Tulare Union 7-0, Jesuit 5-2, Freedom 5-3, St. Mary’s 3-4, California 5-2, Valley Christian 4-2, Sheldon 6-1, Granite Bay 3-4

NorCal Top 20 Teams as of Sept. 24th
1. DLS 6-0
2. Folsom 4-1
3. Buchanan 4-1
4. Central Fresno 5-0
5. Liberty 6-0
6. Pitt 4-2
7. Monterey Trail 5-0
8. Oak Ridge 4-1
9. St. Francis 3-1
10. Del Oro 6-0
11. Serra 2-2
12. CVC 4-1
13. Central Catholic 5-1
14. Inderkum 5-0
15. Capital Christian 6-0
16. Placer 5-0
17. Card Newman 4-1
18. Freedom 5-1
19. Antioch 5-1
20. Tulare Union 5-0
 
WCAL Football 2018 - Upcoming Games Predictions

I previously posted the upcoming games & what to expect & will now post my own predictions. So far on the Weekly Pick 'Em thread Serra is an overwhelming favorite against VC with only one poster picking VC as their lowest #1 pick to win. One other post is predicting Serra in a complete blow-out, so what do they know that we don't? [or the flip side: they don't know what the rest of us think we know..].

So here goes:

SHC vs Bells - The Bells have been fading faster than sunset on the coast in recent weeks. No hesitation in going with Irish who are bursting with confidance after vanquishing the Wildcats of S.I. last Friday nite in Bruce-Mahoney game. The 49ers lost a QB & the Irish gained a new QB. Watch out Bells!
Predict: SHC 21-13 over Bells

Riordan at SF
- doesn;t get any easier for Crusader's except that Lancer's are not the wide-open offense they faced in Serra. Nevertheless the SF "machine" will grind out first downs with their very capable RB's and dare the Crusader D to stop them. Riordan also without an important player for one game due to ejection at Serra last week - need to be smarter Crusader players.
Predict: SF 35-7 over Riordan.

Serra at VC -
an interesting game for sure and a wide open offense against a very good D along with a grind it out run game. Serra has seen 2 teams better than VC and the opposite is true for VC with SF being the best the Warrior's have faced [not that SF is milk-toast]. Serra scored 21 & 35 against 2 quality opponents and looks better with each game. While I'm not predicting any blow-outs I do think VC will have its hands full in this one. Should VC get behind they will not win in a shoot out with the Padres.
Predict: Serra 38-21 over VC [Revised after sleeping on - it Serra 35-14]

Mitty at S.I.
- interesting match-up as we still don;t know how good Mitty is vs SHC, S.I. Sure Mitty beat up on both Riordan & Bells, but S.I. & SHC both appear better than those 2 teams. SO is Mitty the "Great Pretender" or will Monarch's make a statement? We find out if Mitty is the solid #4 in WCAL or will battle it out with S.I. & SHC for that spot.
Predict: Mitty 35-21

Fri. Nite Lites 10/12:
Sacred Heart Cathedral vs Bellarmine at San Jose City College 7:00pm
Riordan at St. Francis 7:00pm
Serra at Valley Christian 7:00pm

Sat 10/13
Mitty at St. Ignatius 1:00pm
 
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The legend of St. Ignatius just keeps getting more and more fabulous. Touted by some as one of the region's best winless teams (how that is determined with any degree of certainty is still something of a mystery), the SF Examiner today has taken the myth to an entirely fresh level. SI's 0-6 performance was heralded as sterling evidence of "one of the top winless teams in the country." If the Wildcats keep losing at this rate, they may yet achieve intergalactic recognition.
 
WCAL Football 2018 - SHC & S.I.'s "New" QB's as of last week

Last week's SHC 26-21 win over S.I. was one of the best WCAL league games so far this season. One of the reason's is both teams have a new look because of changes at the QB position. The previous week SHC's junior QB Cian Dowling a transfer from S.I. had the unenviable task of starting his first varsity game vs St. Francis. While SF was a heavy favorite the Lancer's had just lost their starting QB Jack Perry for the season to injury. While the game was won by SF 14-0 it was much closer than most fans anticipated due to a solid defensive effort by the Irish.

In the Bruce-Mahoney football game SHC's Dowling was starting his 2nd game while S.I. opted to start their own junior QB Zach Taylor Smith. To myself both teams had a different look about them with the 2 new QB's. SHC's Dowling 6'1-190 is a dual threat QB who will run when the opportunity presents itself and has a nice touch on the ball & reminds me just a bit of Serra's Bottari. Against St. Ignatius Dowling was 12/15 passing for 106 yards. S.I's QB Zach Taylor Smith 6'3-205 looked very good as well in his first varsity start throwing 10/16 for 129 yards. S.I.'s Taylor Smith looked very comfortable operating the Wildcat offense and is an option type QB similar to Shamir Bey of Mitty. Both these junior QB's look like they will give their teams an edge in their senior years' next season as returning varsity QB's.



 
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WCAL Football 2018 - SHC & S.I.'s "New" QB's as of last week

Last week's SHC 26-21 win over S.I. was one of the best WCAL league games so far this season. One of the reason's is both teams have a new look because of changes at the QB position. The previous week SHC's junior QB Cian Dowling a transfer from S.I. had the unenviable task of starting his first varsity game vs St. Francis. While SF was a heavy favorite the Lancer's had just lost their starting QB Jack Perry for the season to injury. While the game was won by SF 14-0 it was much closer than most fans anticipated due to a solid defensive effort by the Irish.

In the Bruce-Mahoney football game SHC's Dowling was starting his 2nd game while S.I. opted to start their own junior QB Zach Taylor Smith. To myself both teams had a different look about them with the 2 new QB's. SHC's Dowling 6'1-190 is a dual threat QB who will run when the opportunity presents itself and has a nice touch on the ball & reminds me just a bit of Serra's Bottari. Against St. Ignatius Dowling was 12/15 passing for 106 yards. S.I's QB Zach Taylor Smith 6'3-205 looked very good as well in his first varsity start throwing 10/16 for 129 yards. S.I.'s Taylor Smith looked very comfortable operating the Wildcat offense and is an option type QB similar to Shamir Bey of Mitty. Both these junior QB's look like they will give their teams an edge in their senior years' next season as returning varsity QB's.


Didn’t SI’s Hagfeldt start and left the game due to injury? QB injury bug impacting a lot of.WCAL teams.
 
WCAL Football 2018 - SHC & S.I.'s "New" QB's as of last week

Last week's SHC 26-21 win over S.I. was one of the best WCAL league games so far this season. One of the reason's is both teams have a new look because of changes at the QB position. The previous week SHC's junior QB Cian Dowling a transfer from S.I. had the unenviable task of starting his first varsity game vs St. Francis. While SF was a heavy favorite the Lancer's had just lost their starting QB Jack Perry for the season to injury. While the game was won by SF 14-0 it was much closer than most fans anticipated due to a solid defensive effort by the Irish.

In the Bruce-Mahoney football game SHC's Dowling was starting his 2nd game while S.I. opted to start their own junior QB Zach Taylor Smith. To myself both teams had a different look about them with the 2 new QB's. SHC's Dowling 6'1-190 is a dual threat QB who will run when the opportunity presents itself and has a nice touch on the ball & reminds me just a bit of Serra's Bottari. Against St. Ignatius Dowling was 12/15 passing for 106 yards. S.I's QB Zach Taylor Smith 6'3-205 looked very good as well in his first varsity start throwing 10/16 for 129 yards. S.I.'s Taylor Smith looked very comfortable operating the Wildcat offense and is an option type QB similar to Shamir Bey of Mitty. Both these junior QB's look like they will give their teams an edge in their senior years' next season as returning varsity QB's.



Please add Serra's backup junior QB, McLemore (sp?) to your list. He is an excellent athlete at about 6-2 or 6-3. He's been getting running-clock second-half reps due to league blowouts. One problem: He's not allowed to pass much due to efforts to keep Serra scoring down in the second half. He's a starting CB defensively as well.
 
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"jordan24[/B], post: 211556, member: 140"]Didn’t SI’s Hagfeldt start and left the game due to injury? QB injury bug impacting a lot of WCAL teams.

Thanks jordan as I was not aware Hagfelt started the game & left injured [did not see full game].
Also good point made by colhenry as to Serra's back-up QB junior Daylin Mclemore 6'3-185.
I omitted Mclemore as I don't really have a take on him as of yet and yet to start a game. Certainly has the size and has shown he can run as well. As the col pointed out Mclemore's playing time has been relegated to playing mostly during the running clock periods in which he is simply handing off the ball or running himself - so no passing to run scores up any further, hence no real passing stats to come to any conclusion. Mclemore's rush stats though are noteworthy: 14/127 for a 9.1 APC.
 
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WCAL Football 2018 - SHC & S.I.'s "New" QB's as of last week

Last week's SHC 26-21 win over S.I. was one of the best WCAL league games so far this season. One of the reason's is both teams have a new look because of changes at the QB position. The previous week SHC's junior QB Cian Dowling a transfer from S.I. had the unenviable task of starting his first varsity game vs St. Francis. While SF was a heavy favorite the Lancer's had just lost their starting QB Jack Perry for the season to injury. While the game was won by SF 14-0 it was much closer than most fans anticipated due to a solid defensive effort by the Irish.

In the Bruce-Mahoney football game SHC's Dowling was starting his 2nd game while S.I. opted to start their own junior QB Zach Taylor Smith. To myself both teams had a different look about them with the 2 new QB's. SHC's Dowling 6'1-190 is a dual threat QB who will run when the opportunity presents itself and has a nice touch on the ball & reminds me just a bit of Serra's Bottari. Against St. Ignatius Dowling was 12/15 passing for 106 yards. S.I's QB Zach Taylor Smith 6'3-205 looked very good as well in his first varsity start throwing 10/16 for 129 yards. S.I.'s Taylor Smith looked very comfortable operating the Wildcat offense and is an option type QB similar to Shamir Bey of Mitty. Both these junior QB's look like they will give their teams an edge in their senior years' next season as returning varsity QB's.


Cian Dowling is a Sophomore.
 
Cian Dowling is a Sophomore.

Thx Cheers - I knew that from watching his frosh video highlights, guess I was just thinking Dowling & Taylor Smith were both same grade. If anything makes Dowling looks even more impressive with 2 more years to go. Son of a gun is big for a soph QB at 6'1-190. S.I. should have done everything they could to have kept Dowling - Winner Irish!

In regards to Dowling size at 6'1-190 I was listening to sports-talk KNBR68 yesterday about the new all time passing yardage leader Drew Brees who now holds numerous NFL passing records. Only 2 colleges were interested in Brees coming out of high school & he chose Purdue. Brees slipped in the draft despite an excellent college career as NFL teams considered him too short as an NFL QB. While listed at 6'0 by the NFL Brees admits he has never been any taller than 5'11 which is what the scouts had noted.
 
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Interesting note on Daylin McLemore: His father Dana played in the NFL for quite a few years.
 
Thx Cheers - I knew that from watching his frosh video highlights, guess I was just thinking Dowling & Taylor Smith were both same grade. If anything makes Dowling looks even more impressive with 2 more years to go. Son of a gun is big for a soph QB at 6'1-190. S.I. should have done everything they could to have kept Dowling - Winner Irish!

In regards to Dowling size at 6'1-190 I was listening to sports-talk KNBR68 yesterday about the new all time passing yardage leader Drew Brees who now holds numerous NFL passing records. Only 2 colleges were interested in Brees coming out of high school & he chose Purdue. Brees slipped in the draft despite an excellent college career as NFL teams considered him too short as an NFL QB. While listed at 6'0 by the NFL Brees admits he has never been any taller than 5'11 which is what the scouts had noted.
I saw SHC QBs play and was more impressed by the other QB that game who was better on deeper passes - more accurate. Dowling needs another year or two to get stronger. Not a very live arm although he seems mobile and has some size. When I saw him his mechanics were inconsistent and he was underthrowin, late to the spots, threw low balls and noit alot of velocity on passes, but QBs can improve and he is young and will get better and has upside.
 
The legend of St. Ignatius just keeps getting more and more fabulous. Touted by some as one of the region's best winless teams (how that is determined with any degree of certainty is still something of a mystery), the SF Examiner today has taken the myth to an entirely fresh level. SI's 0-6 performance was heralded as sterling evidence of "one of the top winless teams in the country." If the Wildcats keep losing at this rate, they may yet achieve intergalactic recognition.
Hilarious... at some point a win is a win, and 0-6 is 0-6.
 
I saw SHC QBs play and was more impressed by the other QB that game who was better on deeper passes - more accurate. Dowling needs another year or two to get stronger. Not a very live arm although he seems mobile and has some size. When I saw him his mechanics were inconsistent and he was underthrowin, late to the spots, threw low balls and noit alot of velocity on passes, but QBs can improve and he is young and will get better and has upside.

Maybe you should take another look at that last pass by Smith.
 
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I saw SHC QBs play and was more impressed by the other QB that game who was better on deeper passes - more accurate. Dowling needs another year or two to get stronger. Not a very live arm although he seems mobile and has some size. When I saw him his mechanics were inconsistent and he was underthrowin, late to the spots, threw low balls and noit alot of velocity on passes, but QBs can improve and he is young and will get better and has upside.

I don't know NorCal as I was inpressed with the soph playing in just his 2nd varsity game & passing 12/15. I especially liked his "touch" on the ball & unlike so many HS QB's was not throwing "bullets" on short pass routes that WR's would have trouble handling or resulting in deflections for INT's. I don't think it had anything to do with his arm strength, rather he was taking a bit off the passes to concentrate on getting the ball to the WR and he was highly accurate completing 80% of his passes.

dcpanda - I do remember Dana McLemore from his 49er days '82-86. Later upon retiring he lived locally & opened a hamburger place in downtown San Mateo called "Daddy Mac's"[was just down the street from where the movie theater now is]. I remember driving by it numerous times & now wish I'd tried it.
 
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