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Very Early Look at the CIF Bowl Divisions - 2024

Newman broke St. Helenas “unbeaten” streak set 60-65 at 46 games and 53 games without a loss, which stood as a public school record for years.

From September 16, 1960, through September 17, 1965, St. Helena High School won 46 consecutive football games. Then, on September 24, 1965, the Saints were tied by Vanden High School 0-0 at Carpy Field to end the win streak. Undeterred, the ’65 squad then rolled off 6 more victories that season before finally losing at Cloverdale 12-7 on November 11, 1965, completing a streak of 53 games without a loss, still a Northern California Public School record. "
Must have been before CalHiSports counted.

Playoff Weather - 11/22 and 11/23/2024

I remember days when Palma used to go up to play Hollster and the Balers let the grass grow long and watered the field before. But many times as a youth remember playing in mud bowls and the field so slippery and raining so hard you were lucky to hold on to the ball. They equipment wasn't as good then as well. Our helmets frosh year were just a hard shell and the face guards were pretty much useless. They got better by junior and senior year but freshmen was a step up from leather.
I'm pretty sure that was a Hollister trademark. Of the three games I went to in the early 2000s, the field was always wet and one time looking like a swamp.
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NCP Pick'em: Playoffs Week 2

Testing a new system...

10 Oak Ridge
9 De La Salle (42-25)
8 San Ramon Valley (Cardinal Newman could surprise, Calpreps predicts such)
Every game hereunder is a very close margin - I need to hire monkeys and buy a dart board.
7 Los Gatos (hmm, I don't buy it - AR is going to win, but I'll let the new system speak for me.)
6 Rocklin
5 St. Francis (Given my personal conviction, this game is a 1 point level - take your pick of SF or SI)
4 Hollister (We will get a look at the Carmel depth in this game)
3 Palma
2 Windsor
1 St. Mary's (Which Grant is showing up? Calpreps predicts the very best Grant shows up against an unmotivated SM team)

Very Early Look at the CIF Bowl Divisions - 2024

Newman broke St. Helenas “unbeaten” streak set 60-65 at 46 games and 53 games without a loss, which stood as a public school record for years.

From September 16, 1960, through September 17, 1965, St. Helena High School won 46 consecutive football games. Then, on September 24, 1965, the Saints were tied by Vanden High School 0-0 at Carpy Field to end the win streak. Undeterred, the ’65 squad then rolled off 6 more victories that season before finally losing at Cloverdale 12-7 on November 11, 1965, completing a streak of 53 games without a loss, still a Northern California Public School record. "

Very Early Look at the CIF Bowl Divisions - 2024

Its the purple drank @bella123 ..... I think I was getting mixed up withe Newman had the prior longest win streak in the state before DLS streak. Wasn't that in the 70-80s?
On unbeaten streaks Palma had a long one that ended the 90s...Per Cal Hi Sports

"When the decade ended, Palma (which started playing football in 1954) had amassed a 114-7-0 record, including the final 36 games of a 47-0-1 unbeaten streak. The 114-7 record, which computes to a 94.2 winning percentage, is superior to any other for a single decade in California history with the exception of Concord De La Salle going 125-1 for the 1990s during its national record 151-game win streak.

To put it in even more perspective, Palma’s 114-7 is better than De La Salle’s state-best 105-10-1 for the 1980s or Ventura St. Bonaventure’s state-best 130-9 for the 2000s (not including forfeits) or even Cordova of Rancho Cordova’s state-best 102-6-1 for the 1970s."

Cardinal Newman win streak eclipsed Palma's 36 games but unbeaten streak by Chieftains was a record eclipsed by DLS and Newman. This could have been eclipsed since this was updated as of mid 2000.

Playoff Weather - 11/22 and 11/23/2024

I remember days when Palma used to go up to play Hollster and the Balers let the grass grow long and watered the field before. But many times as a youth remember playing in mud bowls and the field so slippery and raining so hard you were lucky to hold on to the ball. They equipment wasn't as good then as well. Our helmets frosh year were just a hard shell and the face guards were pretty much useless. They got better by junior and senior year but freshmen was a step up from leather.
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Playoff Weather - 11/22 and 11/23/2024

I always try to explain to the younger generation that the pass-happy spread offenses they’ve grown up in weren’t possible to run back in day due to field conditions.

Not only were all fields grass, many of them weren’t maintained all that well and had games being played on them all week long — often by 3-4 different schools. Divots and pot holes galore.

At one point in time, San Juan HS hosted San Juan, Bella Vista, Del Campo, Casa Roble, La Sierra, and Mesa Verde. El Camino HS hosted El Camino, Encina, Mira Loma, Rio Americano, and a few others I’m forgetting.

By midseason, the middle of the field was worn down completely and mostly just dirt. And then when the rain started falling in October and November — the field was a gigantic mud pit. Footing was terrible, and the speed of the game was slower as a result. Also, the ball was not only water-logged but covered in mud as well — no matter how much they tried to switch out or clean the footballs.

The difficulties with field and ball conditions was why the vast majority of programs ran run-oriented, ball control offenses.

I remember being at the 1984 D2 Championship between El Camino and Oakdale at Abbott Field. It was a cold, windy, rainy evening. The game ended in regulation at 0-0. EC ended up winning 6-0 in the old CA style OT.

Neither team could sustain sustain drives or avoid costly fumbles.

I also try to remind the younger generation that prior to the early 2000’s, only the top 2 teams from each league qualified for the postseason. A third place team from certain leagues could also make it, but it was on a rotational basis.

In 1996, Grant Union, Nevada Union and Del Campo ended the regular season in a 3-way tie in the Capital Athletic League at 6-1. All three teams were 9-1 overall. But the CAL didn’t get a 3rd playoff spot that season due to rotation, so the 2 participants were determined via a 3-way coin flip.

Nevada Union lost the coin flip. Imagine being 9-1 with your only loss being by 1-point on a last second play and you don’t qualify for the postseason?! Crazy thing is, that 1996 Miners team might have been among their very best teams of that era. Better than some of their section title winners. But they were ousted in a manner that wouldn’t happen today or at any point over the past 20 years.

My junior season in 1987 my team went 7-3 and 4-2 in a D1 league. We didn’t qualify for the postseason.

Between the superior field conditions, facility, weight room, and equipment improvements, and changes to the overtime and postseason systems — these kids have absolutely no idea how fortunate they are to be playing in this current era.
Bingo... The middle of the field was tractor pull quality. Just a mud pit and the kid with the 1 inch screw in cleats had the only advantage.... Different world today.

Very Early Look at the CIF Bowl Divisions - 2024

Put the bottle down Larry 🤣, usually you are right on, but not on this one.

The original original streak for De La Salle reached 44 games and was broken at the Coliseum in the 87 NCS final by Monte Vista 14-13. The year before De La Salle had moved up to 3A and beat Monte Vista 24 to 7.

The ‘87 game had trick plays, bench clearing fight and came down to the wire on a controversial two point conversion attempt Rob Forrester was “stopped” by Steve Abrams at the pylon (personally think je was in). At the time De La Salle was chasing Cardinal Newman’s win streak which was 47 and at the time was a state record (ended by San Marin in ‘77 or ‘78).

DLS and Newman did play for the 2A title at the Coliseum in ‘84 . Vice and Vaez led Newman and Panella DLS. DLS beat them like 38-20.
Its the purple drank @bella123 ..... I think I was getting mixed up withe Newman had the prior longest win streak in the state before DLS streak. Wasn't that in the 70-80s?

Very Early Look at the CIF Bowl Divisions - 2024

CN has to beat SRV and the loser of the Pitt/DLS game to advance to norcal correct? That is just insane. The Newman vs MC game was better than 90% of the bowl games/teams will be and that was a 1st round section game. What a joke.

I also think if Pitt wins they go but Folsom is ranked higher in virtually every poll.
If Pitt beats DLS, they will not only be 11-1 with their only loss being a tough battle (initially) to Bosco, but they’d be the first team in 34 years to beat DLS in the NCS playoffs. Certainly their ranking would improve with such a win, and it’s a better win than any of Folsom’s. The loss to Serra is way worse than losing to Bosco.

Yes, CN has to beat both SRV and the DLS-Pitt loser to advance to NorCal. I’m not saying they’ll do it, but I think they’ve got a puncher’s chance (and not 58 year old Tyson). SRV is solid, but Cal was within 5 points in the 4th quarter of their first matchup with SRV, and I think CN is a better team than Cal. Plus I read on here that CN is the slight favorite at least by 1 service.

If they beat SRV and face DLS, then I think their season’s over. But if they play a then 2-loss Pitt team that is beat up from just playing DLS, you just never know. Good luck to CN.
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