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Diaz-Infante (Bellarmine)

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tired of this said:
Long time board reader/poster from back in the day when it all started. Many fun nights following scores and playoff predictions and opinions of many famous posters. I do have a take on the Bellarmine/WCAL situation that clarifies the uncertainty that is out there among readers. I am still deeply involved in WCAL sports and musings. The football situation is an evolution that is worthy of a 30 for 30 on ESPN or a book for that matter. For sure a YouTube podcast type video going into more depth could be warranted. It is fascinating to me. I will save the lengthy preamble for another time and cut to the chase.

Football was dying just a few years ago. Safety issues. Numbers dropping. Moms not happy at all about their boys playing. It might have been a smart bet to not try and build a program up when this barbaric sport might not even be around after one more CTE lawsuit. But the sport has rebounded. Equipment safer. Coaches adopting new practice and teaching styles. It seems to be thriving now. So as it turns out, making the traditional investment in football success to drive school success was a pretty good bet.

Patrick Walsh was building a program at Serra. Doing amazing things. He brilliantly courted the Polynesian community. Played the long game. Obviously it was an amazing success. Patrick deserves all the credit...but part of his vision was having a school buy in and support him via admissions and financial aid. Again...smashing success. 25% of Serra's student body plays FB. Do the math. That is 6 or 7 FB guys in every class taught on campus. Staggering.

Tuition high...close to $30,000 at these schools. Bodies are needed to fill schools. Not the chummy, friendly, united WCAL anymore. Schools fighting for survival. Business decisions in the upper echelons are made....get in or not.

Si builds a junior high school and students matriculate to SI. Affordable options exist due to commitment from admin wing. They break the long standing teacher/coach model and bring in a guy with Mater Dei and USC experience. They are in it for the long run.

Riordan hires a well known coach and takes close to 20 transfers and does the same in basketball. Need to find a way to stay solvent. They go coed. Boarding options. Can they keep it up? I hear of rumblings

SH dips into East Bay. They are young and talented. 20 soph on varsity and 20 more on JV. Decisions are being made. That has often been the SH secret sauce. But they are not willing to be left behind in the City

SF has two perfect coaches in the wings on campus while others struggle with the transition from long time coaches. They dip into Pop Warner world and hire parents who coach those teams. Players follow. Admin on board. Millions invested in facilities. To me the Pop Warner decision and the perfect, traditional, Lancer alums coaching is their secret sauce

VC has a unique and successful financial aid program. After losing kids fleeing Covid for a couple years, they pull lots of south county talent. All these teams are huge upfront. Simple physics. 300lb will handle 180lb

Mitty has some unfortunate luck with coaching transitions and seems to be on solid ground now, except small on the lines. Skill guys are good and actually pretty young. Will they jump in the game? Clock is ticking.

Bells so far refusing to take that step. I am sure coaches are urging them to. Coach should have some clout in situation being a successful, HOF alum. Who knows?

These are business decisions made above FB coaches. Stay in the game or not. I do think it is limited to WCAL world though. Rest of CCS still succeeds with the same equation that we all grew up with. It is the size of the WCAL teams that is off the charts. You either get those guys or you don't. Admissions involved. Financial aid involved. Support by community involved. Sort of an arms race with lots of intrigue
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This post was not intended at all to impune Diaz-Infante, many believed he would be able to turn it around and just watching the product on the field that did not seem likely. I do agree with you that this will require Bellarmine to completely revamp its entire approach and I am not sure that they are built to do that. Great analysis by you though..
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Suggestions for Modifying CCS Play-off rules

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ChewpaMiverga said:
Sir,

What would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a SI win versus Mitty?

What would be the result of a St. Francis win versus Riordan and a Mitty win versus SI?

Lastly. what would be the result of a Riordan win versus St. Francis and a Mitty win versus SI?

Thanks in advanced.

-Chewpa
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there are endless possibilities - the simple way to do this yourself is that if there is a game with a result different than the proejction (St. Francis and SI win) then the team that was upset will lose two points as they will have one less win and the team that has the upset win will have 2 more points.

In the case where St. Francis losses and SI wins - there will be co-champs and St. Francis will lose an additional 0.75 points and SI will gain an additional 0.75 points. Impossible to tell how it will affect Cal Prep rankings and additional points lost or gained as it is dependent on all the results from the week of all other games.
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Big News. Coach Clink at Chico State Retiring

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Just got the notice. Looks like they hired somebody outside for the athletic director position which was criminal to me given how much Coach Clink gave to that school. I know he wanted that role.

But deep down I think it was more family related as he wants to spend more time watching his son compete in wresting at Cal Poly SLO. Coach Clink is a friend to many of us on here and I wish him the best. He built one of the best D2 programs in the country. I doubt he's done for good. I could see him popping up as an asst D1 down the road but sounds like he's resetting for now.
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Some Names to Know (CCS)

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Lots of returning talent in CCS, not to mention some outstanding newcomers who have transferred in. Here are the returning First Team All-Leaguers from the top leagues.

WCAL 1st Team
McKenna Woliczco, Mitty, '26
Emma Cook, Mitty, '26
Sophia Sanchez, SI, '26

WBAL 1st Team
Ugreat Daniels, Priory, '26
Addie Chan, Priory '26
Vallory Kuelker, Pinewood, '25
Katherine Garr, Pinewood, '25
Caitlyn Kramer, Pinewood, '26
Ruiqi Liu, Menlo, '25
Karen Xin, Menlo, '25

SCVAL 1st Team
Nicole Steiner, Los Gatos, '25
Ashley Childress, Los Gatos, '25
Clara Fan, Monta Vista, '25

PAL 1st Team
Willow Ishibashi-To, Carlmont, '25
Sofia Kwan, Mills, '25
Lita Fakapelea, M-A, '26
Delaney Dorwin, HMB, '25

PCAL (couldn't find)
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Suggestions for Modifying CCS Play-off rules

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PALbooster said:
I do have them missing the play-off under all scenarios.

The only league that I am aware of that has an integrity rule in terms of presenting teams in the order of finish is the WCAL. The reason is most seasons all eight teams might qualify and even though they are limited to 6 teams they don't the 7th place team that might have more points than the 6th place team going in their place.

Alvarez will likely finish in a tie for 4th place if they beat Palma. But the Gabilan like most leagues presents its teams for at-large based on their number of CCS points. Here is whatI have for the Gabilan assuming Alvarez beats Palma.

Alvarez - losses 4th place tie breaker to Aptos due to head-to head loss. If Hollister beat Salinas there would are a three- way tie for fourth but Alvarez would lose out by having fewer CCS points than the other two as head to head would all be 1-1 between the three teams.
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Man, you are so detailed. Thank you
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WCAL 2024-25 SEASON

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Riordan's offense has been known for its passing game. What's been under the radar has been Riordan's running game. With Sr. Jones and soph Brown and the offensive line, they are just running into the teeth of a defense and still churning out 4-5 yard gains/down.
Serra gave up 244 rushing yards to the Crusaders. Only St. Francis and DLS gained more than 200+ yards against the stout Serra D this season. As @colhenrylives mentioned above, this was an overall clean game in regards to flags by both teams.
This will be critical playing the Lancers next week and as the playoffs approach.
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NCP Pick'em Week 12 Games

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Here are the games for the final week of the Pick'em Contest. Picks are due by 7:00 PM

California at Amador Valley
Livermore at Granada
University Prep at Yreka
Menlo-Atherton at Wilcox
Jefferson at Gunn
St. Francis at Riordan
Valley Christian at Serra
Atwater at Vacaville
East Union at Nevada Union
Ripon at Liberty Ranch

Game of the Week Poll - https://norcalpreps.forums.rivals.com/threads/week-12-game-of-the-week-poll.30916/
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Week 12 Game of the Week Poll

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What is the Game of the Week?

  • California at Amador Valley

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Livermore at Granada

    Votes: 3 8.6%

  • University Prep at Yreka

    Votes: 2 5.7%

  • Menlo-Atherton at Wilcox

    Votes: 4 11.4%

  • Jefferson at Gunn

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • St. Francis at Riordan

    Votes: 18 51.4%

  • Valley Christian at Serra

    Votes: 5 14.3%

  • Atwater at Vacaville

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • East Union at Nevada Union

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Ripon at Liberty Ranch

    Votes: 1 2.9%
See comments…

Game of the Week Poll
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Suggestions for Modifying CCS Play-off rules

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BvalBooster said:
Awesome work! So looks like this season all At-Large teams will come from A leagues throughout the section?

Do you happen to have the point values for the top ten at large teams like you had posted previously in this thread? Thank you for your efforts in providing this insight for all of us!
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15 teams projected in at-large pool

1. Riordan 33 + 15 = 48
2. Sacred Heart Cathedral. 28 + 14 = 42
3. Palma. 25.5 +13 = 38.5
4. Hollister. 23 +12 = 35
5. Sacred Heart Prep 20.5+ 11 = 31.5
6. Sobrato. 22 + 9 = 31
7. Carlmont 20 + 10 = 30
8.Woodside 20.5 +7 = 27.5
9. Kings Academy 19 +8 = 27
10. San Lorenzo Valley 23+ 4 = 27
11. Monte Vista Christian 19.5 +5 = 24.5
12. Soledad 18 + 6 =24
13. Leigh 18.5+ 3 = 21.5
14. Pioneer 18.5 +2 = 20.5
15. Jefferson 17.5 + 1 = 18.5

Even if Riordan or SHC gets bumped by say a Serra or Mitty their profile would be very much the same. I think the top 4 are pretty set - two from WCAL and two from Gabilan. The 5th spot will be tight between the 6th place team in the PAL Bay, Sobrato and Carlmont. Even if SHP gets an automatic spot Menlo or Palo Alto would have a pretty similar or even better CCS point profile
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CoachDada said:
Longtime follower. Thank you for everything over the years. Question. If Alvarez upsets Palma on Friday night, finishing in 5th place in the Gab ahead of Hollister and Palma, you still have Alvarez missing the playoffs?
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I do have them missing the play-off under all scenarios.

The only league that I am aware of that has an integrity rule in terms of presenting teams in the order of finish is the WCAL. The reason is most seasons all eight teams might qualify and even though they are limited to 6 teams they don't the 7th place team that might have more points than the 6th place team going in their place.

Alvarez will likely finish in a tie for 4th place if they beat Palma. But the Gabilan like most leagues presents its teams for at-large based on their number of CCS points. Here is whatI have for the Gabilan assuming Alvarez beats Palma.

Alvarez - losses 4th place tie breaker to Aptos due to head-to head loss. If Hollister beat Salinas there would are a three- way tie for fourth but Alvarez would lose out by having fewer CCS points than the other two as head to head would all be 1-1 between the three teams.

At-large points
Alvarez 4-6 20.5 points (8 schedule points, 8 points for 4 wins, 2 points for playing league champions - assuming NMC is sole champion + 2.5 points for playing 1 top 100 team (Soquel) and 1 top 150 team (Salinas). Ranked #35 in section by CalPreps

Palma - 4-6 23.5 points (9 schedule points, 8 points for 4 wins, 3 points for playing champions (NMC, Sequel and
Yuma Catholic)+ 3.5 points for playing 1 top 100 team Sequel and 2 top 150 teams Salinas and Yuma Catholic. Ranked #17 in section by Calpreps

Hollister 4-6 23 points 9.5 schedule points, 8 points for 4 wins, 2 points for playing league champion (Wilcox and Soquel)+ 3.5 points for playing 1 top 100 team (Soquel) and 2 top 150 teams (Salinas and Wilcox). Ranked #22 in section by Cal Preps.

Since the Gabilan can only have six teams make the play-offs even with an Alvarez win over Palma they will be the third at-large team presented as they have fewer points and can't get in. Clearly if Alvarez beat Palam their Calprep ranking would go up and Palma would go down but I don't think it would get Alvarez in front of either Palma or Hollister.
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NCP Pick'em Week 11 Games

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Here are the results for this week. Relly900 with their first weekly win and FBAddict has taken over the top overall spot with one week to go.

Soquel beat Salinas 35-14
St. Francis beat Valley Christian 35-17
Riordan beat Serra 27-21
Orland beat Corning 34-14
Monterey Trail beat Elk Grove 21-20
Sutter beat Casa Roble 42-21
Wheatland beat Oakmont 26-9
Oak Ridge beat Rocklin 17-6
Marin Catholic beat Cardinal Newman 13-3
Casa Grande beat American Canyon 26-14

Relly900 44
Kiddman32 42
Thehookup55 42
Macallan 41
WCAL88 41
M.C. Fan 40
NorCalSportsFan 40
Dlew66 38
FBAddict 38
Norcalguy111 37
SearsPoints 37
Streak One 35
Sacchiefs 35
Sweetjfromthebay 35
Espot 34
Folsom77 34
Bulldogmgc 34
Irish_Cheers 33
MC415 33
209Tides 33
Bella123 32
EN_FB_Alum 32
H.E.A.T. 31
RLS13 30
Cal 14 30
THEOC89 27
Carlmerritt 26

Yearly Top 10:

1. FBAddict 491
2. THEOC89 490
3. NorCalSportsFan 487
4. Kiddman32 476
5. SearsPoints 473
6. WCAL88 470
7. Bulldogmgc 467
7. Folsom77 467
9. Irish_Cheers 464
10. 209Tides 463
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What division are CN and Marin Catholic in NCS for the playoffs this season?

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THEOC89 said:
The So Cal Format works really well because there are really only 3 Sections that encompass all of So Cal…. The biggest Section being the “Southern Section” which covers all of So Cal to Bakersfield/Fresno, excluding San Diego and the Small LA Section…..

San Diego and LA are not interested in Competing with MD and SJB for the Open so they Compete for D1AA and Below…. San Diego actually has the best Open Format where their 4 Top Ranked teams compete in Their Open Bracket and the Winner Plays in the D1AA regional game against SS D2 winner…. There is No loser moves on format for the San Diego Bracket…..

Our issue in Nor Cal is we have too many sections so each one has their own interests which makes it impossible to crown a true Champion of Nor Cal because there is no more Open Payoff game….
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Been saying it for years. Get rid of the sections.
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