You pointed out the program started to really improve in 2012.... two years after Folsom won a state championship.... I don’t think the timing is a coincidence....
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You pointed out the program started to really improve in 2012.... two years after Folsom won a state championship.... I don’t think the timing is a coincidence....
Gotcha. Understood.
Their 1st super class was 2009 and then that same core responded from the Del Oro loss to win D2 State in 2010. But that core class of kids had grown up through the Folsom JR Bulldogs system. They didn't really start drawing the Williams, Ngata, Badger types until around 2012ish or so. I get that 2 of the 3 Ngata's attended Folsom beginning their frosh season --- but Williams, Badger and numerous others transferred in from other HS programs and/or grew up in other youth systems.
I'm not saying they didn't have transfers before 2012ish -- most every program has them -- just the volume and athletic prowess of the transfers escalated. I don't think that happened because Folsom has great academic programs and good facilities. They already had that going for them, as do numerous other schools in the area. It happened because kids/parents wanted to front run off the immense success that Dano Graves, Jordan Richards, Tyler Trosin etc. started and Jake Browning, Jonah Williams, etc. continued.
And the coaching staff, with Troy Taylor and Kris Richardson at the top, got the very best out of all those guys. I've said it before, I thought Taylor was the most important piece because he developed their QB system. W/O that, I'm not certain they'd have gotten it going as they have. But maybe I'm wrong.
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I agree. Folsom winning that title showed everybody in the Sac area they could compete at the highest level without leaving the area or moving to Del Paso Heights.
I think you are 100% correct!... Folsom has done a great job and built a great program and they attract the top players! That is the sign of great coaching, a great feeder system (Jr. Bulldogs) and great support from the school administration and community!... Why would kids not want to go there and play? And why the heck should anyone care?
Folsom is a very relevant nor cal team and has the best chance to beat DLS... Especially next year... I think what holds them back is they have proven they are more content to blow teams out then challenge themselves against the best...
Corona Centennial is the best comparison to Folsom... A public school just like Folsom, operates under the same rules... Great feeder system (The I.E Ducks)... They have a Legendary coach who goes up against the best each year... Blows out every team in their league... If PITT can get a home and home with CC why cant a team as great as Folsom?
Win or lose, this would be great for nor cal football! Folsom defiantly has the credentials with their bowl wins... I see It as their turn to step up like St Mary's and Pitt have for Nor Cal because Folsom is better coached and year in and year out has more talent then those teams... Games like this will only further their legend and keep them building into the State Powerhouse they aspire to be....
I am admittedly not a Folsom fan, I am a HSFB fan who has followed this board for almost 10 years and this is just the way I see it.... Right or wrong, everyone is entitled to their own opinion based on what they see on the field....
They will. It is just a matter of time. It may be 5 years, it may be 15 years, but it is bound to happen.
I've seen kids being recruited at the jr level, so I know it happens.
It will not happen as long as this coaching staff stays at Folsom. Folsom will draw the best players and the kids that can't compete with the Folsom talent will go to Vista or Oak Ridge or Cordova. If you were a possible D1/D2 player, why would you go to Vista? Recruiters make a point to go to Folsom (and Inderkum and Jesuit, and Oak Ridge, etc.). They do not stop at El Dorado, or Union Mine, or Vista.
Kids get scholarships at any schools if you’re good they’ll find you. There’s a reason why the talent at Folsom looks different than vista every body knows why but nobody likes to say it instead people will talk about what folsom as a school and community offer. Folsom high needs these top players more than they need folsom. We’ve glossed over this every year it seems like. Without players coming to folsom folsom wouldn’t separate away from the rest of the sfl teams they have the athletes to prevent most teams from playing man defense on them. It’s why the struggled with sac high but could beat sfl teams easily. 2010 will always be folsoms best team to me because they were folsom bred from youth on up and they won as a family. What folsoms puts on the field from here on out will not be folsom bred and it’s tge only reason I don’t give them the benefit of doubt if they played the privates in md dls and sjb. Folsoms a public school but their sports programs are ran like private schools
Even if you don't start at Folsom, you will get attention from college football programs. I don't think it would be exaggerating to say that many of the second string players would start at other programs. They stay at Folsom because the competition makes them better in the long run.
I coached youth football for a couple years around 10 years ago and saw a little bit of that myself. Not specific to one program or anything. But with regard to Folsom, I don't have 1st hand knowledge of anything so I don't go there.
I knew I had seen a recent top academic HS list somewhat recently, so I searched for it and though I'd post for info sake.
This is US News best HS list for 2018, There's a link within the link that outlines how they calculate the rankings.
Here are the top 25 for the Sac Metro area of the SJS with CA State rank:
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/rankings
#25 Western Sierra Collegiate Academy, Rocklin, CA
#53 West Campus, Sacramento, CA
#139 Davis Senior High, Davis, CA
#153 Rocklin High, Rocklin, CA
#158 Oak Ridge High, El Dorado Hills, CA
#199 Pleasant Grove High, Elk Grove, CA
#204 Whitney High, Rocklin, CA
#238 Woodcreek High, Roseville, CA
#243 Vista Del Lago High, Folsom, CA
#253 Folsom High, Folsom, CA
#269 Del Oro High, Loomis, CA
#281 Ponderosa High, Shingle Springs, CA
#294 Antelope High, Antelope, CA
#300 Franklin High, Elk Grove, CA
#342 Cosumnes Oaks High, Elk Grove, CA
#346 Roseville High, Roseville, CA
#348 Valley High, Sacramento, CA
#350 Oakmont High, Roseville, CA
#352 Da Vinci Charter Academy, Davis, CA
#359 Bella Vista High, Fair Oaks, CA
#371 Union Mine High, El Dorado, CA
#373 Colfax High, Colfax, CA
#377 Sheldon High, Sacramento, CA
#413 School of Engineering and Sciences, Sacramento, CA
#415 Placer High, Auburn, CA
This is US News best HS list for 2018, There's a link within the link that outlines how they calculate the rankings.
Here are the top 25 for the Sac Metro area of the SJS with CA State rank:
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/rankings
#25 Western Sierra Collegiate Academy, Rocklin, CA
#53 West Campus, Sacramento, CA
#139 Davis Senior High, Davis, CA
#153 Rocklin High, Rocklin, CA
#158 Oak Ridge High, El Dorado Hills, CA
#199 Pleasant Grove High, Elk Grove, CA
#204 Whitney High, Rocklin, CA
#238 Woodcreek High, Roseville, CA
#243 Vista Del Lago High, Folsom, CA
#253 Folsom High, Folsom, CA
#269 Del Oro High, Loomis, CA
#281 Ponderosa High, Shingle Springs, CA
#294 Antelope High, Antelope, CA
#300 Franklin High, Elk Grove, CA
#342 Cosumnes Oaks High, Elk Grove, CA
#346 Roseville High, Roseville, CA
#348 Valley High, Sacramento, CA
#350 Oakmont High, Roseville, CA
#352 Da Vinci Charter Academy, Davis, CA
#359 Bella Vista High, Fair Oaks, CA
#371 Union Mine High, El Dorado, CA
#373 Colfax High, Colfax, CA
#377 Sheldon High, Sacramento, CA
#413 School of Engineering and Sciences, Sacramento, CA
#415 Placer High, Auburn, CA
Man o man how many players from folsom are d1? How many are in the nfl let’s not get carried away this might be the first year were folsom could field multiple d1 players that could get playing time at big colleges. You could find more talented teams in the sjs most years but this years team nobody is close and the main reason is by players that don’t folsom home and that’s why some of the parents of other sfl teams are mad about
You are probably right about this being the case as long as Coach Richardson is there. But as we know, all good things do not last. It may take 10 or even 20 years but things will shift. Especially with the facilities at Vista and all the building going on south of highway 50. Heck there will eventually be another HS in Folsom. Hard to imagine.
Reading this forums for years and yes the issue is a but outdated. There are strict rules in place and complaints are investigated thoroughly by the CIF. The old method of throwing a blanket "recruiting" accusation with he said/she said material and hoping it sticks, are in the rear view mirror. You either play by the rules or you don't. If you don't like the rules, you may lobby to change them.
On to league!
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