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Kevin Thomson to transfer to Sacramento State

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Not really a HS Football topic, but Sacramento State draws a lot of attention on the board. It was reported in the Sacramento Bee that he was hoping to trasnfer to a FBS program with an eye on getting drafted.

Interesting time to transfer, especially with the offensive coaching at Sacramento State.
 
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Yeah, I was surprised when I heard the news a few days ago. I even asked JoeD if he thought it was a sure thing, considering many players enter the portal to gauge interest then pull their name out later on. But JD seems the believe it’s a done deal.

Makes me wonder if there are other factors in play. I realize Thomson enjoyed a banner season, earning the Conference POY award, but he’s also a kid with a injury-riddled collegiate career and is on the smallish side.

Arguably, at the FCS level, there aren’t much better places for a QB to be than learning under Fresques and Taylor. And I’m not sure I see an FBS power 5 program looking for an injury prone 6th year senior.

So that might only leave lower tier FBS, which is precisely where Thomson began his collegiate career at UNLV.

In today’s scouting climate, I don’t see it easier for Thomson to get a look at the next level playing one season at UNLV, San Jose State, UNR, or some other middling FBS program. He surely isn’t going to be in a better situation scheme and coaching wise.

If Thomson made the move solely to try to gain notice from the NFL (I’m sure they already know who he is), he’s receiving poor advice IMO.

I’m puzzled by the decision.

As for the Hornets going forward, it’ll be interesting to see who wins the starting gig between Jake Dunniway, Jayden Machado, Tristan Meyer, and incoming 3 star QB Yaro Duvalko.

Somehow, I feel the Hornets will be ok with whomever Taylor and Fresques decide to hand the keys to the car.
 
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Washington is the landing spot for Thomson. Huskies go into the Troy Taylor well again. Just in a different fashion this time.

I give KT credit for landing with a PAC12 program. I didn’t think he’d fare that well. Although, by the way this all came together, you wonder if some back channel discussions had already been going on.

With Eason on to the NFL, KT will certainly get a shot at the starting gig. But if he doesn’t land it, will it have been worth it?

I still don’t believe starting a season at UW and leading them to say a 7-5 record is going to help his stock more than another MVP caliber season at SAC State. NFL scouts already know who he is.

While I wish the kid no ill will, I admittedly am disheartened by the lack of loyalty to the Hornets program — who gave him an opportunity when no one else seeming did. And if not for the new staff and their system, KT wouldn’t be in a situation where the likes of UW would be interested.

But that’s the nature of today’s athletes. C’est la vie.

FWIW, it’s almost as if Sac State traded Thomson to UW for Ariel Ngata via the transfer portal. ;)
 
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Yeah a little bummed given how well everything worked out for KT and sac State last year and the overall vibe there. Makes you wonder if Haener jumped the gun leaving wash? I do think KT has a very good chance of starting at Wash and that situation only comes around so often. Wish him well but I’m a little disappointed. (Selfishly)
 
Makes you wonder if Haener jumped the gun leaving wash?
Feel like there’s a lot more to that story. Was at a National QB camp last year and talking with a Dad with very close ties to the UW program and all indications were that Haener was outplaying Eason. Abrupt resignation by Peterson makes me wonder if there was some institutional influence that he didn’t care for.
 
Feel like there’s a lot more to that story. Was at a National QB camp last year and talking with a Dad with very close ties to the UW program and all indications were that Haener was outplaying Eason. Abrupt resignation by Peterson makes me wonder if there was some institutional influence that he didn’t care for.


Honestly I never though that much of Haener as a QB at that level coming out of MV. You do know his mom has big ties to UW as well. (Newscaster for KTVU). Hopefully Fresno is a better home.
 
Honestly I never though that much of Haener as a QB at that level coming out of MV. You do know his mom has big ties to UW as well. (Newscaster for KTVU). Hopefully Fresno is a better home.
I have to admit I never saw him play but the info comes from as close to royalty as it gets for UW.
 
yeah if you start at UW and shred USC, Oregon, Utah, etc that won’t impress scouts but if you shred Weber st they will be left awe struck......got it

pretty much. Tough to turn down a chance to start at UW and that degree is top notch.
 
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pretty much. Tough to turn down a chance to start at UW and that degree is top notch.

What degree is he gonna get from UW? I believe he’s already graduated from Sac State. They hand out master’s degrees after only one additional semester?
 
yeah if you start at UW and shred USC, Oregon, Utah, etc that won’t impress scouts but if you shred Weber st they will be left awe struck......got it

Tell that to Carson Wentz. And Josh Allen. And Trey Lance, who is currently #3 QB on many draft boards. And countless others.

If someone can play, it doesn’t matter where they go to school.

Meanwhile attending WSU and shredding Pac-10 programs surely helped Ryan Leaf, didn’t it? And how about the great JaMarcus Russell owning the SEC!

Btw, let’s see Kevin Thomson actually win a starting job before we assume he’s gonna “shred” USC, Oregon and Utah.

If KT is a good enough prospect, playing at Sac State again this season and for coaches that have a track record of grooming successful QB’s wasn’t going to hinder his chances at playing at the next level.

You know what might? Transferring to UW and not playing. Either due to losing out on the starting job or via injury. The kid hasn’t been able to remain healthy playing against the likes of ‘Weber St.’ yet you already have him shredding USC and Oregon. SMH.

You clearly didn’t watch KT play the last 5 games of this past season. He wasn’t all that good in most of them. UCD was the only game he excelled, mostly with his legs.

As someone that has watched Thomson’s entire career at Sac State, this is a dubious decision to say the least. I hope it works out for him, but color me highly skeptical.
 
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Josh Allen played D1 and all the other guys you mentioned including Joe Flacco/Jimmy G are all physically big dudes so the scouts were intrigued by their physical traits from the start

KT isn’t a traditional size for a NFL QB he’s what 6’0? He can run a bit but yeah NFL isn’t drooling over him.......yeah relax I don’t follow sac st football religiously but I just think it’s funny how you act like it’s top of the pyramid of college football when reality is UW is a better degree and way higher level of football so maybe he starts or maybe he doesn’t......but playing at Husky stadium in front of 60k against USC or Oregon is way better experience then in front of 15 k in Sacramento against Southern Utah

He may not play at UW ur right but I think the payoff if he does start is worth it but I know I think the opposite.....but we will agree to disagree I know ur passionate about ur hornets
 
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Tell that to Carson Wentz. And Josh Allen. And Trey Lance, who is currently #3 QB on many draft boards. And countless others.

If someone can play, it doesn’t matter where they go to school.

Meanwhile attending WSU and shredding Pac-10 programs surely helped Ryan Leaf, didn’t it? And how about the great JaMarcus Russell owning the SEC!

Btw, let’s see Kevin Thomson actually win a starting job before we assume he’s gonna “shred” USC, Oregon and Utah.

If KT is a good enough prospect, playing at Sac State again this season and for coaches that have a track record of grooming successful QB’s wasn’t going to hinder his chances at playing at the next level.

You know what might? Transferring to UW and not playing. Either due to losing out on the starting job or via injury. The kid hasn’t been able to remain healthy playing against the likes of ‘Weber St.’ yet you already have him shredding USC and Oregon. SMH.

You clearly didn’t watch KT play the last 5 games of this past season. He wasn’t all that good in most of them. UCD was the only game he excelled, mostly with his legs.

As someone that has watched Thomson’s entire career at Sac State, this is a dubious decision to say the least. I hope it works out for him, but color me highly skeptical.
what exactly have carson and josh done? they got drafted and are in the league but they havent exactly won anything major. and josh played d1 football but performed bad versus the 2 power 5 teams his last year at wyoming.
 
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what exactly have carson and josh done? they got drafted and are in the league but they havent exactly won anything major. and josh played d1 football but performed bad versus the 2 power 5 teams his last year at wyoming.

Carson and Josh were both first round picks and Carson got the big second contract. In terms of what we are talking about (best path to make the NFL), Carson and Josh are big successes.
 
Tell that to Carson Wentz. And Josh Allen. And Trey Lance, who is currently #3 QB on many draft boards. And countless others.

If someone can play, it doesn’t matter where they go to school.

Meanwhile attending WSU and shredding Pac-10 programs surely helped Ryan Leaf, didn’t it? And how about the great JaMarcus Russell owning the SEC!

Btw, let’s see Kevin Thomson actually win a starting job before we assume he’s gonna “shred” USC, Oregon and Utah.

If KT is a good enough prospect, playing at Sac State again this season and for coaches that have a track record of grooming successful QB’s wasn’t going to hinder his chances at playing at the next level.

You know what might? Transferring to UW and not playing. Either due to losing out on the starting job or via injury. The kid hasn’t been able to remain healthy playing against the likes of ‘Weber St.’ yet you already have him shredding USC and Oregon. SMH.

You clearly didn’t watch KT play the last 5 games of this past season. He wasn’t all that good in most of them. UCD was the only game he excelled, mostly with his legs.

As someone that has watched Thomson’s entire career at Sac State, this is a dubious decision to say the least. I hope it works out for him, but color me highly skeptical.
I see this both ways. If your dream is to play in the NFL its a risk to leave the team where you were a Walter Payton award finalist that will definitely get you looks at the next level. If your dream was to play at your home state University then it's a hard opportunity to pass up. Football is always next man up and one play away from the backup. Dunniway got some valuable reps last year. It will be good to see him get the opportunity to secure QB1.
 
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Carson and Josh were both first round picks and Carson got the big second contract. In terms of what we are talking about (best path to make the NFL), Carson and Josh are big successes.
that contract... zero playoff wins and 7-20 versus .500 and above teams and started 5-6 3 over the last 4 seasons.... i been waiting years to throw out those stats. LOL
 
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If Kevin can start at Washington, more power to him. There is just a potential downside with this move if he doesn't win the job.

And that if you check enough boxes, the NFL (or any pro league) won't care if you do it in the Pac-12, Big Sky or living in a van down by the river (still a great comedy sketch)
 
If Kevin can start at Washington, more power to him. There is just a potential downside with this move if he doesn't win the job.

And that if you check enough boxes, the NFL (or any pro league) won't care if you do it in the Pac-12, Big Sky or living in a van down by the river (still a great comedy sketch)

IDK Matt Foley’s offers were jack squat.
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If your dream was to play at your home state University then it's a hard opportunity to pass upopportunity to secure QB1.

Agree with you on this. Although for a kid that reportedly desires to play at the next level, the transfer could really hurt those chances. Huge risk.
 
If Kevin can start at Washington, more power to him. There is just a potential downside with this move if he doesn't win the job.

Happy to know I'm not the only one that sees it.

And that if you check enough boxes, the NFL (or any pro league) won't care if you do it in the Pac-12, Big Sky or living in a van down by the river (still a great comedy sketch)

Straight truth, on all accounts. ;)
 
Josh Allen played D1

Sac State is also D1. What you mean is FBS vs. FCS.

And I'm fully aware of that Josh Allen played at an FBS program. But we're still talking about Wyoming. They're in the same league as San Jose State. Not exactly fast track programs to the pros either. Certainly not part of the power 5. Which was the point of mentioning Allen.

The way things have been progressing in college football, outside of the power 5, most of these other programs will be fairly equal if they're not already.

FWIW, the likes of NDSU, JMU and even Montana of the FCS are often stronger programs than much of the Mountain West conference minus possibly Boise State. In short, FBS doesn't automatically equal better.

including Joe Flacco/Jimmy G are all physically big dudes so the scouts were intrigued by their physical traits from the start

KT isn’t a traditional size for a NFL QB he’s what 6’0? He can run a bit but yeah NFL isn’t drooling over him.

Flacco, yes. Jimmy G? Not so much. He was listed at 6'2 226 at the combine.
Kevin Thomson is listed on both the Hornets and Huskies rosters at 6'2 200. I personally don't believe he's quite that, but that's what they've got officially listed so that's what we've got to go on.

And you're making my point for me. Part of questioning the transfer is Thomson's lack of size and penchant for injury.

yeah relax I don’t follow sac st football religiously but I just think it’s funny how you act like it’s top of the pyramid of college football

By all means, point me to a previous post where I've implied such a thing. You're inventing your own truth here. I'm fully aware of their subpar history and lack of facilities.

That said, it should also be acknowledged that Sac State finished 2019 ranked in the top 10 and, prior to Thomson's decision to transfer, was ranked as high as #4 in the Nation in a May 2020 preseason poll (HERO Sports).

when reality is UW is a better degree and way higher level of football

Higher level of football, yes. Better degree? Based upon what exactly? I'm pretty sure a lot depends upon the field of study one pursues between the two schools.

Secondly, Thomson is a graduate student. Which means he already graduated from Sac State. His attending UW to complete his football career doesn't necessarily mean he'll stay long enough to also obtain a graduate degree from UW. You're making multiple assumptions here.

so maybe he starts or maybe he doesn’t......but playing at Husky stadium in front of 60k against USC or Oregon is way better experience then in front of 15 k in Sacramento against Southern Utah

Other than starting or not starting, nothing else you stated here was being debated.

Although now that you bring it up, the vast difference in attendance is probably a moot point since in this current pandemic era there won't be 60K watching any game for the foreseeable future. Certainly not during Thomson's final season anyway.

He may not play at UW ur right but I think the payoff if he does start is worth it but I know I think the opposite.....but we will agree to disagree

If he does start and the Huskies go 7-5, convince me how that is somehow going to convince scouts to give the kid a look versus not giving him the same look after another season like he had at Sac State in 2019.

Hint: It won't. He'll get the same look.

@Streak One is spot on. Scouts/GM's won't care where he succeeded. This isn't 1985 or even 1995 anymore. They find players from FBS all the way down to Division 3 nowadays.

I know ur passionate about ur hornets

I'm a lifelong Ohio State fan. I bleed scarlet and gray. But I do root for the local underdog Hornets as well. Lots of local HS talent on the roster. Again, make no mistake, I'm fully aware of the programs subpar history and lack of facilities.

That said, they also happen to have two really exceptional QB coaches at the moment. Coaches that had a lot to do with the stellar season KT enjoyed last Fall. W/O their tutelage and their offensive system, does UW come calling? Doubtful.

Just saying.
 
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We will agree to disagree my friend........FCS will always be 1AA to me :) MWC was 12-0 against FCS schools in 2019

I agree that KT has almost zero chance to legitimately play Sundays no matter where he is at and yeah that’s my point at 6’1 200 (Jimmy G is a much stronger and bigger guy) he needs to do something out of this world to make an impression and like I said earlier most people would be more excited to be the starting QB at UW then Sac St, will he start I already it’s going to be a battle for him .........not any of the QBs that anyone listed from the 1AA level wasn’t physically NFL sized already and KT just wasn’t blessed with the traditional nfl size.....but just different perspectives I personally rather end my career playing at highly visible traditional powerhouse on national TV versus playing at a commuter school 1AA streamed online If given the opportunity

but we don’t need to go back n forth we aren’t changing each others minds like every thread on sac at and kids decision to play or not play there.......good luck to KT and Hornets too
 
but just different perspectives I personally rather end my career playing at highly visible traditional powerhouse on national TV versus playing at a commuter school 1AA streamed online If given the opportunity

When coming out of HS, I agree with you. The numbers clearly support that most student athletes think that way. That’s why you have some kids with limited FBS options choosing military academies — that might not be the best fit for them — over FCS or D2 simply because it’s FBS and considered more prestigious.

Many of those kids end up transferring to an FCS later on. But the allure of FBS, larger crowds, and better chances of televised games is enough to sway some kids to choose schools they may not have considered otherwise. I somewhat get that.

However for a 6th year senior that largely ended up in the position he’s in because SAC afforded him an opportunity when seemingly nobody else would, I naively hoped for a bit more loyalty. That certainly would have been my mindset if in the same situation. Now, if UW was Thomson’s absolute dream school growing up, that’d be a bit more understandable to me. But still, where was UW when Thomson’s collegiate career was in question and SAC answered the call? That’d also factor into my decision if my dream school came calling 6 years in.

Honestly, I just don’t get the whole front running mentality. Never have. Sans my childhood dream school, I’d rather be a big part of starting a culture than just being a small spoke in an already established one. But I’m clearly in the minority and I acknowledge that.

I have no issue with a graduate transfer whose motivation is solely academic. But what I don’t understand or identify with is bailing on teammates and coaches of 3, 4+ years just to go to higher profile program for a season. If I was a pro GM/scout, that would be the antithesis of the type of player I’d be searching for.

Most people I know are quite proud of their college years and the relationships they formed. They are prideful about their school. Same used to be true of HS. But things have changed nowadays where we regularly see kids transfer schools during their JR. or SR. years for athletic purposes. Hell, I just read a story last season about 2 kids transferring to Mater Dei only to transfer back to their original school after football season ended.

IMO, graduate transfers in college and JR./SR. transfers in HS for athletic purposes are a rapidly growing trend that is very disheartening to see.
 
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When coming out of HS, I agree with you. The numbers clearly support that most student athletes think that way. That’s why you have some kids with limited FBS options choosing military academies — that might not be the best fit for them — over FCS or D2 simply because it’s FBS and considered more prestigious.

Many of those kids end up transferring to an FCS later on. But the allure of FBS, larger crowds, and better chances of televised games is enough to sway some kids to choose schools they may not have considered otherwise. I somewhat get that.

However for a 6th year senior that largely ended up in the position he’s in because SAC afforded him an opportunity when seemingly nobody else would, I naively hoped for a bit more loyalty. That certainly would have been my mindset if in the same situation. Now, if UW was Thomson’s absolute dream school growing up, that’d be a bit more understandable to me. But still, where was UW when Thomson’s collegiate career was in question and SAC answered the call? That’d also factor into my decision if my dream school came calling 6 years in.

Honestly, I just don’t get the whole front running mentality. Never have. Sans my childhood dream school, I’d rather be a big part of starting a culture than just being a small spoke in an already established one. But I’m clearly in the minority and I acknowledge that.

I have no issue with a graduate transfer whose motivation is solely academic. But what I don’t understand or identify with is bailing on teammates and coaches of 3, 4+ years just to go to higher profile program for a season. If I was a pro GM/scout, that would be the antithesis of the type of player I’d be searching for.

Most people I know are quite proud of their college years and the relationships they formed. They are prideful about their school. Same used to be true of HS. But things have changed nowadays where we regularly see kids transfer schools during their JR. or SR. years for athletic purposes. Hell, I just read a story last season about 2 kids transferring to Mater Dei only to transfer back to their original school after football season ended.

IMO, graduate transfers in college and JR./SR. transfers in HS for athletic purposes are a rapidly growing trend that is very disheartening to see.
where did he say he wasnt prideful of playing for sac st?
 
My two cents says,

“KT has CFL written all over him”.

I really like the kid, but I agree. If Ricky Ray couldn't crack the NFL beyond dressing for games a handful of times, I don't see any way KT does.

Ray is probably the best QB the Hornets have had in recent memory. And has starred in the CFL.

McLeod Bethel-Thompson is up there too, not statistically, but he is surely among the more physically talented QB's Sac State has fielded and he couldn't crack the NFL beyond practice squads.

Ray and MBT both have prototypical NFL size, whereas KT does not. In today's NFL size doesn't matter as much as it used to. And Thomson's dual threat capability give him an edge the others didn't really have. But IMO he'd really have to drastically improve his accuracy and decision making and find a way to stay healthy to really have any realistic chance

We'll see how it goes up in Seattle this season. Maybe.
 
I really like the kid, but I agree. If Ricky Ray couldn't crack the NFL beyond dressing for games a handful of times, I don't see any way KT does.

Ray is probably the best QB the Hornets have had in recent memory. And has starred in the CFL.

McLeod Bethel-Thompson is up there too, not statistically, but he is surely among the more physically talented QB's Sac State has fielded and he couldn't crack the NFL beyond practice squads.

Ray and MBT both have prototypical NFL size, whereas KT does not. In today's NFL size doesn't matter as much as it used to. And Thomson's dual threat capability give him an edge the others didn't really have. But IMO he'd really have to drastically improve his accuracy and decision making and find a way to stay healthy to really have any realistic chance

We'll see how it goes up in Seattle this season. Maybe.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports...l-threat-qb-decide-to-transfer-to-washington/

Answers the question on this board
 
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