I think that game doesn’t have to be played, I see Vacaville better than Vintage, Vacaville strength of schedule is crazy, even Liberty has only lost to Vacaville, Yuba City is the only bad team on the schedule. Vintage has played a lot of very close games with weaker teams, not to take anything away from Vintage but I think given last years matchup Vacaville would have been ready for them, and we will see how good they are with their two remaining games being Wood and Napa
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I think that game doesn’t have to be played, I see Vacaville better than Vintage, Vacaville strength of schedule is crazy, even Liberty has only lost to Vacaville, Yuba City is the only bad team on the schedule. Vintage has played a lot of very close games with weaker teams, not to take anything away from Vintage but I think given last years matchup Vacaville would have been ready for them, and we will see how good they are with their two remaining games being Wood and Napa
I take back my comment earlier about VIntage not being 4-0 in MEL. I saw Napa play for the first time this year, and I think it is sad what has happened to that program. Being an alumni, and with a kid playing for the Indians years ago, I just believed Napa would continue to dominate that rivalry. Not going to happen. What a mess they have over there. I see Vintage beating both Wood and Napa. Will they use the 13 point rule between Vacaville and Vintage since they will have 4 common league opponents? Seriously curious...
As far as I know it's what the Section Bylaws dictates. It's the difference between D1 & D2. Napa is a very sad team, worst one to recent memory.
First time Napa has been down can not recall when the last time they ever were (beginning of the MEL when Vintage was the Cream of the Crop)? I do not see Vacaville getting far...looks like they have been trending downward lately...hopefully they can get a a Passing Offense and some quality wins soon...
My first attempt at Bracketology......
Division 1
(1) Folsom vs. (16) Enochs
(2) Oak Ridge vs. (15) Edison
(3) St. Mary's vs. (14) Pitman
(4) Jesuit vs. (13) River City
(5) Vacaville vs. (12) Lincoln
(6) Sheldon vs. (11) Modesto
(7) Franklin vs. (10) Gregori
(8) Turlock vs. (9) Monterey Trail
Division 2
(1) Central Catholic vs. (16) Laguna Creek
(2) Granite Bay vs. (15) Burbank
(3) Del Campo vs. (14) Stagg
(4) Inderkum vs. (13) Buhach Colony
(5) Sacramento vs. (12) Vintage
(6) Rocklin vs. (11) Tracy
(7) Antelope vs. (10) Lincoln
(8) Downey vs. (9) Del Oro
Division 3
(1) Oakdale vs. (16) Benecia
(2) Manteca vs. (15) Pacheco
(3) Patterson vs. (14) McNair
(4) Christian Brothers vs. (13) Cordova
(5) River Valley vs. (12) Rio Americano
(6) Vista del Lago vs. (11) American Canyon
(7) Vanden vs. (10) East Union
(8) Yuba City vs. (9) Rio Linda
Division 4
(1) Placer vs. (8) Rosemont
(2) Los Banos vs. (7) Natomas
(3) Woodland vs. (6) Dixon
(4) Casa Roble vs. (5) El Dorado
Division 5
(1) Orestimba vs. (8) Highlands
(2) Colfax vs. (7) Ripon
(3) Sonora vs. (6) Bear River
(4) Capital Christian vs. (5) Calaveras
Division 6
(1) Modesto Christian vs. (8) Mariposa
(2) Gustine vs. (7) Hilmar
(3) Summerville vs. (6) Escalon
(4) Western Sierra vs. (5) Rio Vista
Division 7
(1) Ripon Christian - BYE
(2) Stone Ridge Christian - BYE
(3) Big Valley Christian vs. (6) Brookside Christian
(4) Bradshaw Christian vs. (5) Woodland Christian
**** I didn't take travel into consideration. Didn't want to dive that deep into it. I'm also not sure if the section guarantees league winners a home game in the first round of the playoffs. I thought they did away with that but I'm not sure. Still a lot of football to be played and some of these teams may not even make it.
Let the debate begin.......
Division 1
(1) Folsom vs. (16) Enochs
(2) Oak Ridge vs. (15) Edison
(3) St. Mary's vs. (14) Pitman
(4) Jesuit vs. (13) River City
(5) Vacaville vs. (12) Lincoln
(6) Sheldon vs. (11) Modesto
(7) Franklin vs. (10) Gregori
(8) Turlock vs. (9) Monterey Trail
Division 2
(1) Central Catholic vs. (16) Laguna Creek
(2) Granite Bay vs. (15) Burbank
(3) Del Campo vs. (14) Stagg
(4) Inderkum vs. (13) Buhach Colony
(5) Sacramento vs. (12) Vintage
(6) Rocklin vs. (11) Tracy
(7) Antelope vs. (10) Lincoln
(8) Downey vs. (9) Del Oro
Division 3
(1) Oakdale vs. (16) Benecia
(2) Manteca vs. (15) Pacheco
(3) Patterson vs. (14) McNair
(4) Christian Brothers vs. (13) Cordova
(5) River Valley vs. (12) Rio Americano
(6) Vista del Lago vs. (11) American Canyon
(7) Vanden vs. (10) East Union
(8) Yuba City vs. (9) Rio Linda
Division 4
(1) Placer vs. (8) Rosemont
(2) Los Banos vs. (7) Natomas
(3) Woodland vs. (6) Dixon
(4) Casa Roble vs. (5) El Dorado
Division 5
(1) Orestimba vs. (8) Highlands
(2) Colfax vs. (7) Ripon
(3) Sonora vs. (6) Bear River
(4) Capital Christian vs. (5) Calaveras
Division 6
(1) Modesto Christian vs. (8) Mariposa
(2) Gustine vs. (7) Hilmar
(3) Summerville vs. (6) Escalon
(4) Western Sierra vs. (5) Rio Vista
Division 7
(1) Ripon Christian - BYE
(2) Stone Ridge Christian - BYE
(3) Big Valley Christian vs. (6) Brookside Christian
(4) Bradshaw Christian vs. (5) Woodland Christian
**** I didn't take travel into consideration. Didn't want to dive that deep into it. I'm also not sure if the section guarantees league winners a home game in the first round of the playoffs. I thought they did away with that but I'm not sure. Still a lot of football to be played and some of these teams may not even make it.
Let the debate begin.......
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Hoping for a higher seed for EDH (fingers crossed) league champ and 8-2 overall with a win over Cordova
I had Mont Trail at 9 and switched them and Gregori because that was the one time I looked at travel....LOL...Didn't pay attention to leagues. Should of left it. Changed it back to what I originally had.
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That's why I asked about league champs being rewarded with a first round home game. I based my seeding off of Calpreps ratings for the time being. Casa Roble has a higher rating but are also going to finish 5-5 so I can easily see El Dorado moving ahead of them and even a Woodland team that will finish 7-3 but again they have a higher rating. I can easily see El Dorado as a 3 seed, Woodland at 4 and Casa Roble dropping to 5.
Yes, the section does try to give home games to league champions. Calpreps is only one factor that goes into the seedings, so I don't think this is going to be close to the way the seedings will land.
For example, I highly doubt that Granite Bay would be given a #2 seed as the #3 team in the SFL over 10-0 Inderkum and Del Campo. I also think that the section will discount the Sacramento forfeits and place them as a high seed.
For example, I highly doubt that Granite Bay would be given a #2 seed as the #3 team in the SFL over 10-0 Inderkum and Del Campo. I also think that the section will discount the Sacramento forfeits and place them as a high seed.
I think Bradshaw Christian is DIV or DV...that CBS vs. Cordova brings back memories of the 80's....interesting match up of Downey-Modesto vs. Del Oro, Sheldon vs. Modesto too, that Vacaville vs. Lincoln looks solid, do not know if Vintage has faced an Offense that Sacramento runs...so be another interesting game as well, gonna look like a pound for pound game between Turlock & MT, Vista Del Lago vs. AC looks Gud as well, Placer vs. Woodland in the Championship Game (I know way to early)!
Now don’t all the Folsom and Oak Ridge fans get their panties in a bunch, but if the Playoff field looks like this list above, I’d say that the DII field is the tougher of the two. Deeper for sure.
Indy, Del Campo, CC, Sac High all solid squads. GB and Vaca and an undefeated Downey team. Tough!
Well Wood took care of Vintage tonight so Vintage is out of playoffs and Vaca and Wood In ! Winner next Friday is MEL champ , loser takes second
You are correct , that’s what I get for posting on my phone at 230am !
What is the tiebreaker for automatic bids? Looking at the Delta League where Elk Grove, Franklin and Monterey Trail could all end at 4-3 in league play and the three teams are 1-1 against each other.
In this scenario, Elk Grove would finish 5-5 (losing to Sheldon)
In this scenario, Elk Grove would finish 5-5 (losing to Sheldon)
Delta example:
13 point rule only accounts for wins or losses up to 13 points. So a 30 point win is only the max points of +13, same for a loss.
Franklin vs EG- FRANKLIN LOST BY 4. So -4points
Franklin vs MTHS- FRANKLIN won by 21 but the most total points is only 13... +13
+13 vs MTHS, -4 vs EG = +9 for Franklin
Monterey Trails vs EG +13
Monterey Trails vs FHS -13
MTHS Total = 0
EG vs FHS= +4
EG vs MTHS= -13
EG Total =- 9
Franklin would get AQ #3
Monterey would get AQ #4
EG would not get an AQ (UNLESS ONE OF THOSE TEAMS LOSES OR THEY BEAT SHELDON)
13 point rule only accounts for wins or losses up to 13 points. So a 30 point win is only the max points of +13, same for a loss.
Franklin vs EG- FRANKLIN LOST BY 4. So -4points
Franklin vs MTHS- FRANKLIN won by 21 but the most total points is only 13... +13
+13 vs MTHS, -4 vs EG = +9 for Franklin
Monterey Trails vs EG +13
Monterey Trails vs FHS -13
MTHS Total = 0
EG vs FHS= +4
EG vs MTHS= -13
EG Total =- 9
Franklin would get AQ #3
Monterey would get AQ #4
EG would not get an AQ (UNLESS ONE OF THOSE TEAMS LOSES OR THEY BEAT SHELDON)
I've seen both Granite Bay and Del Campo this year and Del Campo looks definitely bigger and faster than Granite Bay.
A lot changed this past weekend and there could still be a lot of changes after this weekend. The amount of 5 win teams getting in this year is higher than any other year in the past and that is what's changing things up on a weekly basis. A lot of placements in divisions is going to be dependent on which 5-5 teams actually get in and which ones are out.
Here's my latest breakdown.....Feel free to correct any mistakes. It was late when I was working on this.....LOL
DIVISION 1
St. Mary's / 830 / 5-0 / 8-2
Vacaville / 1981 / 4-0 / 6-3
Lincoln (S) (43) / 2855 / 3-2 / 5-5
Franklin (EG) / 2536 / 4-3 / 7-3
Oak Ridge / 2533 / 5-1 / 9-1
Edison / 2507 / 2-3 / 6-4
Modesto / 2472 / 5-1 / 7-3
Turlock / 2450 / 6-0 / 8-2
Folsom / 2419 / 6-0 / 10-0
Cosumnes Oaks (47) / 2397 / 5-2 / 5-5
Sheldon / 2385 / 6-1 / 8-2
Gregori / 2273 / 5-1 / 9-1
Monterey Trail / 2246 / 4-3 / 6-4
Jesuit / 2172 / 7-0 / 8-2
River City / 2155 / 3-3 / 7-3
Lodi (45) / 2122 / 2-3 / 5-5
DIVISION 2
Cental Catholic / 379 / 7-0 / 9-0
Del Oro (53) / 1745 / 2-4 / 5-5
Wood / 1729 / 3-1 / 5-4
Del Campo / 1766 / 7-0 / 10-0
Sacramento / 902 / 6-1 / 6-4
Tracy / 2108 / 4-1 / 7-3
Downey / 2067 / 5-1 / 9-1
Granite Bay / 2037 / 4-2 / 8-2
Rocklin / 2018 / 3-3 / 6-4
Inderkum / 2006 / 6-0 / 10-0
Stagg / 1969 / 5-0 / 7-3
Vintage / 1966 / 3-1 / 7-2
Burbank / 1869 / 6-1 / 6-4
Lincoln / 1858 / 4-1 / 8-2
Buhach Colony / 1816 / 5-1 / 7-3
Antelope / 1808 / 6-1 / 9-1
DIVISION 3
Oakdale / 1543 / 6-1 / 8-2
Christian Brothers / 1144 / 5-0 / 8-2
American Canyon / 1564 / 4-0 / 6-3
River Valley / 1789 / 3-3 / 6-4
Elk Grove (52) / 1789 / 4-3 / 5-5
Yuba City / 1765 / 4-2 / 6-4
Vista del Lago / 1761 / 4-1 / 6-4
Patterson / 1731 / 5-0 / 9-1
McNair / 1717 / 4-1 / 6-4
Rio Americano / 1703 / 2-3 / 6-4
Cordova / 1688 / 4-1 / 7-3
Rio Linda / 1676 / 3-3 / 6-4
Benicia / 1674 / 2-2 / 6-3
Vanden / 1678 / 3-1 / 5-4
East Union / 1658 / 4-3 / 7-3
Pacheco (45) / 1652 / 3-2 / 5-5
DIVISION 4
Manteca / 1586 / 5-2 / 8-2
Los Banos / 1363 / 4-1 / 9-1
Center / 1356 / 3-2 / 6-4
Placer / 1339 / 5-0 / 9-1
Woodland / 1297 / 2-4 / 6-4
Casa Roble (48) / 1266 / 3-2 / 5-5
El Dorado / 1254 / 5-0 / 8-2
Dixon / 1110 / 5-1 / 7-3
DIVISION 5
Capital Christian / 444 / 5-0 / 7-3
Colfax / 586 / 2-3 / 7-3
Highlands / 836 / 3-2 / 6-3
Natomas / 1104 / 3-2 / 6-4
Calaveras / 973 / 5-1 / 9-1
Sonora / 973 / 6-0 / 8-2
Ripon / 910 / 4-1 / 7-3
Orestimba / 844 / 7-0 / 10-0
DIVISION 6
Bradshaw Christian / 348 / 5-0 / 7-3
Escalon / 821 / 4-1 / 6-4
Hilmar (49) / 666 / 2-3 / 5-5
Summerville / 591 / 4-2 / 8-2
Gustine / 585 / 6-1 / 9-1
Western Sierra / 563 / 3-1 / 8-2
Mariposa County (49) / 537 / 4-3 / 5-5
Modesto Christian (55) / 137 / 4-1 / 5-5
DIVISION 7
Rio Vista / 371 / 4-1 / 6-4
Big Valley Christian / 197 / 4-1 / 9-1
Ripon Christian / 195 / 5-2 / 7-3
Woodland Christian / 191 / 4-0 / 8-1
Stone Ridge Christian / 149 / 5-0 / 9-1
Brookside Christian / 113 / 3-2 / 5-4
DIVISION 1
St. Mary's / 830 / 5-0 / 8-2
Vacaville / 1981 / 4-0 / 6-3
Lincoln (S) (43) / 2855 / 3-2 / 5-5
Franklin (EG) / 2536 / 4-3 / 7-3
Oak Ridge / 2533 / 5-1 / 9-1
Edison / 2507 / 2-3 / 6-4
Modesto / 2472 / 5-1 / 7-3
Turlock / 2450 / 6-0 / 8-2
Folsom / 2419 / 6-0 / 10-0
Cosumnes Oaks (47) / 2397 / 5-2 / 5-5
Sheldon / 2385 / 6-1 / 8-2
Gregori / 2273 / 5-1 / 9-1
Monterey Trail / 2246 / 4-3 / 6-4
Jesuit / 2172 / 7-0 / 8-2
River City / 2155 / 3-3 / 7-3
Lodi (45) / 2122 / 2-3 / 5-5
DIVISION 2
Cental Catholic / 379 / 7-0 / 9-0
Del Oro (53) / 1745 / 2-4 / 5-5
Wood / 1729 / 3-1 / 5-4
Del Campo / 1766 / 7-0 / 10-0
Sacramento / 902 / 6-1 / 6-4
Tracy / 2108 / 4-1 / 7-3
Downey / 2067 / 5-1 / 9-1
Granite Bay / 2037 / 4-2 / 8-2
Rocklin / 2018 / 3-3 / 6-4
Inderkum / 2006 / 6-0 / 10-0
Stagg / 1969 / 5-0 / 7-3
Vintage / 1966 / 3-1 / 7-2
Burbank / 1869 / 6-1 / 6-4
Lincoln / 1858 / 4-1 / 8-2
Buhach Colony / 1816 / 5-1 / 7-3
Antelope / 1808 / 6-1 / 9-1
DIVISION 3
Oakdale / 1543 / 6-1 / 8-2
Christian Brothers / 1144 / 5-0 / 8-2
American Canyon / 1564 / 4-0 / 6-3
River Valley / 1789 / 3-3 / 6-4
Elk Grove (52) / 1789 / 4-3 / 5-5
Yuba City / 1765 / 4-2 / 6-4
Vista del Lago / 1761 / 4-1 / 6-4
Patterson / 1731 / 5-0 / 9-1
McNair / 1717 / 4-1 / 6-4
Rio Americano / 1703 / 2-3 / 6-4
Cordova / 1688 / 4-1 / 7-3
Rio Linda / 1676 / 3-3 / 6-4
Benicia / 1674 / 2-2 / 6-3
Vanden / 1678 / 3-1 / 5-4
East Union / 1658 / 4-3 / 7-3
Pacheco (45) / 1652 / 3-2 / 5-5
DIVISION 4
Manteca / 1586 / 5-2 / 8-2
Los Banos / 1363 / 4-1 / 9-1
Center / 1356 / 3-2 / 6-4
Placer / 1339 / 5-0 / 9-1
Woodland / 1297 / 2-4 / 6-4
Casa Roble (48) / 1266 / 3-2 / 5-5
El Dorado / 1254 / 5-0 / 8-2
Dixon / 1110 / 5-1 / 7-3
DIVISION 5
Capital Christian / 444 / 5-0 / 7-3
Colfax / 586 / 2-3 / 7-3
Highlands / 836 / 3-2 / 6-3
Natomas / 1104 / 3-2 / 6-4
Calaveras / 973 / 5-1 / 9-1
Sonora / 973 / 6-0 / 8-2
Ripon / 910 / 4-1 / 7-3
Orestimba / 844 / 7-0 / 10-0
DIVISION 6
Bradshaw Christian / 348 / 5-0 / 7-3
Escalon / 821 / 4-1 / 6-4
Hilmar (49) / 666 / 2-3 / 5-5
Summerville / 591 / 4-2 / 8-2
Gustine / 585 / 6-1 / 9-1
Western Sierra / 563 / 3-1 / 8-2
Mariposa County (49) / 537 / 4-3 / 5-5
Modesto Christian (55) / 137 / 4-1 / 5-5
DIVISION 7
Rio Vista / 371 / 4-1 / 6-4
Big Valley Christian / 197 / 4-1 / 9-1
Ripon Christian / 195 / 5-2 / 7-3
Woodland Christian / 191 / 4-0 / 8-1
Stone Ridge Christian / 149 / 5-0 / 9-1
Brookside Christian / 113 / 3-2 / 5-4
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You have Antelope in D2 and D3.
And isn't Bradshaw Christian in a D6 league? They also beat Rio Vista, so I would swap those two.
Thanks....I forgot to take Antelope out of D3 when I moved them up to D2....For some reason I had Rio Vista winning that league but you're right on that as well....Thanks for catching it.
Interestingly, Lodi (5-5) is projected to make the cut because they will have faced teams with more wins total than Pitman (5-5). Yet, clearly, Pitman is the better team between these two. It's a mute point, considering neither stands a chance against any of the top-seeded teams in D1.
Lodi has to beat Tokay to qualify (Calpreps is predicting a 22-21 win), but will make it if they win.
Laguna Creek is likely to beat Johnson and will make the D2 bracket which will drop Antelope to D3.
I don't see Beyer making it all with their win opponent win totals.
Vanden will get the second AQ slot from the SCAC and should be in the D3 bracket.
Capital Christian should be in the D4 bracket. There is a provision in this year's playoffs where if a team is more than one bracket from their realignment bracket, then they will be moved up.
I think Woodland will beat Pioneer and make it into the D4 bracket. With both Woodland and CC in the D4 bracket, Dixon and Casa will move down to D5.
Highlands has to beat Bradshaw Christian to make the playoffs. Their opponent win totals is very low and they will not make it with 5 wins. Calpreps is calling this 44-22 for BC.
As the winner of the SDL, Bradshaw Christian will play in the D6 bracket (as you have them).
Laguna Creek is likely to beat Johnson and will make the D2 bracket which will drop Antelope to D3.
I don't see Beyer making it all with their win opponent win totals.
Vanden will get the second AQ slot from the SCAC and should be in the D3 bracket.
Capital Christian should be in the D4 bracket. There is a provision in this year's playoffs where if a team is more than one bracket from their realignment bracket, then they will be moved up.
I think Woodland will beat Pioneer and make it into the D4 bracket. With both Woodland and CC in the D4 bracket, Dixon and Casa will move down to D5.
Highlands has to beat Bradshaw Christian to make the playoffs. Their opponent win totals is very low and they will not make it with 5 wins. Calpreps is calling this 44-22 for BC.
As the winner of the SDL, Bradshaw Christian will play in the D6 bracket (as you have them).
It's located here. D.1
Of course there are lots of things that could happen. But sorry Coach, I think they will be in D4 with El Dorado. They look to be the second team in D4 enrollment-wise after Pacheco.
Is there anywhere to see what division the new leagues will be in after realignment. I didn't even read that part. I just took it as they couldn't play more than one division lower than they league they are currently in. It kind of breaks it down on the enrollment page but that's based off current divisions. Nice point out. If Bear River or Argonaut win, they will get in and bump schools up out of the D4 bracket into the D3 bracket. I did have Vanden getting 2nd in there league but overlooked them because of the 5-4 record. I think they will just come in and replace Beyer so nothing will really change in the lower brackets.
Argonaut, Bear River, Union Mine, Rosemont, Hughson.....
These are the 4-5 teams right now that are projected to lose on Friday night. With what I have, if 1 of these teams win Manteca will be bumped up into D3. Being that I'm a LB guy we only want 1 to win. More than 1 win and we could be getting bumped up as well. American Canyon winning league and having to play in D3 is jacking everything up. LOL
These are the 4-5 teams right now that are projected to lose on Friday night. With what I have, if 1 of these teams win Manteca will be bumped up into D3. Being that I'm a LB guy we only want 1 to win. More than 1 win and we could be getting bumped up as well. American Canyon winning league and having to play in D3 is jacking everything up. LOL
If AC wins Friday they win league outright,if they lose, 3 way tie with Vanden and Benicia.AC and Benicia play Friday. AC beat Vanden, Vanden beat Benicia.
I have them in with 6 wins already. I have them in the D5 bracket. I don't know why he's saying they have to win to get in.
