If you want to change history, you are right. A VC win would have made them look better. But I am speaking currently. VC currently has ZERO chance to win against Manteca this season. But SF does have that opportunity. You can frame your distaste for relative strength values any way you want. But the truth is there is a constant state of dynamic relative strength values simply because associative relationships are in a constant state of change.Kindly disagree. A VC win would have made VC look better. Placing it on someone else to take care of your bunsiness (especially a league rival) just seems strange to me.
I know a new softer generation I just would never root on a league rival? Just seems lazy and coat tail riding. Put in your own hard work and do it yourse instead of letting someone else do the heavy lifting and then showing up for the camera op.
If you want to change history, you are right. A VC win would have made them look better. But I am speaking currently. VC currently has ZERO chance to win against Manteca this season. But SF does have that opportunity. You can frame your distaste for relative strength values any way you want. But the truth is there is a constant state of dynamic relative strength values simply because associative relationships are in a constant state of change.
On that precise point, I agree!!!!...but they did have the opportunity and that’s the result which counts.
Just noodling around the internet and stumbled on a site called Calhipreps. Here are their State projects for Serra and SF:
BOWL 2-AA
Serra (San Mateo, CA) vs. Cajon (San Bernardino, CA) at Sacramento State U. (Sacramento, CA), 4:00pm [projection: Serra [Junipero] (San Mateo, CA) 38-35]
Saturday, December 16th
BOWL 2-A
St. Francis (Mountain View, CA) vs. Grace Brethren (Simi Valley, CA) at Sacramento State U. (Sacramento, CA), 12:00pm [projection: St. Francis (Mountain View, CA) 31-22]
Scratch that, try: http://calpreps.com/Calhipreps? Never heard of it and couldn't find it. Your copy, though, appears to be a match for calpreps.com - a website of common fodder here.
Excellent analysis. I also have my doubts about how well Serra can defend against Cajon.Serra vs Cajon of the SoCal "Citrus League"
Tale of the Tape by Numbers:
I've been looking at info on Cajon and as a Serra/WCAL fan this game concerns me. Cajon is #13 in state and Serra has risen to #20 - getting into very lofty company in those spots.
I'm somewhat comfortable with St. Francis going into their game this weekend as I think they match up well with Grace Brethren. Serra on the other hand I'm not sure matches up well with this Cajon team. Cajon reminds me a lot of Pittsburg, only better. Both Pitt and Cajon have excellent athlete QB's who can not only throw, but are quick and excellent scramblers. The Pitt QB burned Serra repeatedly in their game and this Cajon QB has the same ability. Cajon at 14-1 has a slight rating difference in their favor while Serra has a slight advantage in "SOS". Only problem is the schedules are not too different and Cajon has a couple very weak opponents who lowered their "SOS" number. Cajon appears to have peaked at the right time and crushed all 3 good opponents they faced in their sectional playoffs, which overall were stronger than Mitty, VC and SF that Serra faced. In those 3 games Cajon won by large margins with the largest margin in their sectional title game over the best opponent they faced [similar rating to St. Francis] and Cajon won by 70-23 [which had a higher rating that Tulare Union that Serra beat by 76-43].
So this will all come down to how the 2 teams match up as do most games. Since I do not know Cajon intimately I will hope that the coach Walsh staff can out-coach them and have drawn up the "unexpected" for the "Cowboys" from San Bernardino.
Points Per Game over Season: Cajon 48.9 - Serra 42.4
Points Allowed Per Game over Season: Cajon 18.9 - Serra 19.6
Cajon 321 yards passing & 183 rushing per game = 504 yards offense per game average
Cajon for season = 107 TD's
QB Jayden Daniels = 143 QB Rating [sky high]
QB Jayden Daniels rushed for 1216 yards and 14 TD's for a 7.1 APC.
RB Joseph Yarber is a compact speedy RB who rushed for 961 yards & 10 TD's.
WR Darren Jones 6'8-190 a pass catching machine, 92 receptions for 1962 yards, 27 TD's.
WR Tre Noriega 5'9-170 added 64 catches for 1030 yards & 10 TD's.
WR Omar Perkins 5'8-170 added 79 catches for 827 yards & 8 TD's.
Serra has got speed and it appears Cajon has speed and then some. The 2 things of which Serra must accomplish 1 of the 2 to win. #1 Serra must at all costs contain QB Jayden Daniels and place a "spy" on him throughout this game. If Daniels is allowed to scramble at will for first downs and long gains Cajon will simply wear Serra down - this is KEY to this game. Serra can score, but if their offense is sitting on the bench that point will become mute.
#2 Serra must have double coverage help as needed on Darren Jones the 6'8 junior basketball player WR who averages 130 yards/2-TD's per game with a ridiculous 21 YPC avg. Not sure who is assigned to cover a 6'8 WR, while Serra's best DB's/SS are all listed at 5'11 Serra may consider one of their back-up DB's who are 6'0-6'1 as added help in passing situations. A tough puzzle to solve when the opponent Cajon apears to have more offensive options than Serra. The Cajon QB is a master at scrambling, they have a small scat-back RB who contributed nearly 1000 yards and 4 different WR's with the 6'8 main weapon and then 3 other speedy receivers who contributed another almost 200 receptions for an additional 20 TD's.
The numbers are simply mind boggling and I'm not confidant that Serra can slow down this offensive machine enough to win. To remind you this team is not Tulare Union - not even close. While the computers have Serra by 3 I am looking at Cajon by 12+.
Hopefully I am wrong...
Serra State Champs 38-14 over Cajon
Looking at CalPreps this morning Serra leapfrogged up to #8 in CA with an overall rating of 64.6. Should #10 Pitt win over Narbonne #14 that will likely help Serra's rating further. St. Francis #33 plays Grace Brethren #38 at 12:00 Noon today [channel 696 NSBA] and if Lancer's win SF will move up and also helps Serra's rating as well.
Other teams rankings for CA as of this morning:
Oak Ridge #25
St. Mary's #26
Granite Bay #27
SRV #36
Half Moon Bay #43 faces Steele Canyon #62
Valley Christian #48 [to bad VC could not have made into playoffs having lost to Serra twice as did St. Francis].
Serra holds Cajon the top scoring team in CA to 14 points. Cajon was averaging 49 points per game and their previous low for the season was 33 points - unbelievable job by an injury plagued Serra defense. I also heard a Serra player was ineligible for "targeting" in a previous post season game - first I'd heard of that yesterday by announcer - anyone know any more about it? How serious an infraction would it have to be for a ref to remove a player from the playoffs? Anyone else ever hear of this?
Among the many records Serra set this season was the 12-consecutive wins in a season, a record that is likely safe for a long time to come.
Who was the player who got ejected from Serra?Any player ejected for any reason in a playoff game is ineligible for the remainder of the playoffs. Doesn’t matter the severity of the action. St. Francis I believe has a similar issue because a player was ejected for taunting earlier in the playoffs.
Serra State Champs 38-14 over Cajon
Looking at CalPreps this morning Serra leapfrogged up to #8 in CA with an overall rating of 64.6. Should #10 Pitt win over Narbonne #14 that will likely help Serra's rating further. St. Francis #33 plays Grace Brethren #38 at 12:00 Noon today [channel 696 NSBA] and if Lancer's win SF will move up and also helps Serra's rating as well.
Other teams rankings for CA as of this morning:
Oak Ridge #25
St. Mary's #26
Granite Bay #27
SRV #36
Half Moon Bay #43 faces Steele Canyon #62
Valley Christian #48 [to bad VC could not have made into playoffs having lost to Serra twice as did St. Francis].
Serra holds Cajon the top scoring team in CA to 14 points. Cajon was averaging 49 points per game and their previous low for the season was 33 points - unbelievable job by an injury plagued Serra defense. I also heard a Serra player was ineligible for "targeting" in a previous post season game - first I'd heard of that yesterday by announcer - anyone know any more about it? How serious an infraction would it have to be for a ref to remove a player from the playoffs? Anyone else ever hear of this?
Among the many records Serra set this season was the 12-consecutive wins in a season, a record that is likely safe for a long time to come.
After yesterday's games here are the Top 10 rated NorCal teams in CA for the 2017 season:
#3 Folsom 16-0 [rating 73.8]
#5 DLS 11-2 [70.8]
#8 Serra 13-2 [65.2]
#14 Pitt 9-3 [60.7]
#25 St. Mary's 11-3 [53.8]
#26 Oak Ridge 11-2 [53.6]
#31 Granite Bay 12-3 [52.1]
#32 St. Francis 11-4 [51.7]
#34 Jesuit 10-3 [50.5]
#36 Liberty 11-2 [48.0]
2017 State Bowl Games Final Scores:
Folsom 49-24 over Helix
DLS loses 52-21 to Mater Dei
Serra 38-14 over Cajon
Pitt loses 28-21 to Narbonne [Pitt lead early in game by 21-0]
St. Francis 22-13 over Grace Brethren
Half Moon Bay loses 44-42 to Steele Canyon
Milpitas 45-41 over Southwest
NorCal 4 of 7 State Champs
Other state bowl final results:
Div 3AA: Bishop Diego over Shasta/NorCal 41-6
Div 4AA: Crenshaw 46-43 over Placer/NorCal
Div 5A: Fortuna 54-33 over Katella/SoCal
Div 5AA: McClymonds 42-12 over Golden West/SoCal
Div 6A: Galileo 38-20 over Vincent Memorial/SoCal
Div 6AA: Stathmore 31-29 over Orange/SoCal
Total State Bowl Games = 13
NorCal comes out on top with 8-5 wins over SoCal
One semi-final observation re Serra vs. Cajon: Minus its two huge run-stopping poly-pillars along the defensive line due to injuries, the Padres went small and fast and simply bamboozled and totally flummoxed the ultra-high-scoring Cajon offense. It was a sight to see. A gaggle of wild Munchkin-esque youngsters flying around and laying waste to the much bigger and confused opponent in their biggest game of the year. Major kudos to the Serra coaching staff for making adjustments and making the most of their personnel.
Great observation colhenry. In talking with several other fans we discussed the injuries and ineligible player and I am still amazed at how the Padres shut down the high scoring "Cowboys".
To me looking at the D early on in the game I thought they were in deep against Cajon. According to your post part of the decision was to go "smaller/faster" and if that is the case then whomever coach drew that up is a genius. We all know that often smaller/faster can get "run-over faster" more often than not. Whatever changes and how they were decided worked to perfection for Serra as it simply appeared on paper that Cajon had the superior athletes. In the end as with most of the season however Serra performed and functioned better "as a unit" than their opponent - a true testament of both their coaching and team brotherhood. Amazing win.
Ditto Kudos!!!!Hey, lest we just take the Rambling Man's yearly WCAL football efforts for granted, let's hand him some well-deserved kudos. At last check, this popular thread has well over 73,000 views. Nothing else on the site is remotely close to that figure, unless I'm mis-reading the viewing history. This guy deserves a finder's fee for crying out loud.