Pitt has a win over st Mary’s of stockton
Thanks. Will edit.
Pitt has a win over st Mary’s of stockton
Palma should be ahead of Carmel. Palma has better defense and also lots of weapons (i.e., RB) that Salinas doesn't have. Terra Nova is looking like they hould be in the equation as well. Aragon and HMB look to be down....and Carmel might be too low...unsure right now...and then there's Palma and Terra Nova too...unclear...Aragon a total mystery today...same for Salinas...
Pitt has a win over st Mary’s of stockton
Palma should be ahead of Carmel. Palma has better defense and also lots of weapons (i.e., RB) that Salinas doesn't have. Terra Nova is looking like they hould be in the equation as well. Aragon and HMB look to be down.
Serra is probably a level ahead of Wilcox, and MA probably top 3. Wilco was one of my teams that could surprise before the season started. I missed on Hollister though which looks bad. Salinas will get better as the season progresses but clearly not as good as last season.
Since no one will mention the score which colhenry was unaware of ..
Pitt blew out St. Mary’s by 48-7 - the worst loss for St. Mary's in recent memory [or maybe long term memory for that matter - a thorough thrashing of the SM Rams].
So although Pitt lost in O/T to CVC in opener & then powerhouse Centennial-Corona this last week Pitt is still a formidable opponent and likely favored by 1-2 scores vs Serra of San Mateo next week. Do NOT underestimate the Pittsburg Pirates...
It's likely and maybe probable that Serra loses to Pitt. Pitt is loaded on defense and Serra not being able to run the ball consistently early in the season and dealing with Pitt's perimeter athletes on defense makes them a clear underdog. Serra has lost multiple times early in the season the last two years and made deep runs so this is part of Walsh's philosophy. They lost a lot of really key pieces and both coordinators but they have a system in place, it just needs time to gel with all the changes but doubt the Padres at the end of the season at your own risk.
EJ Lalough has not played since sustaining a sprained ankle in first half against Sera Gardena he is the big back when he returns,Good points. All valid.
It looks starting running back David coker is out for a while, if not the year.
Interesting analysis...WCAL Football 2018
WCAL & Top CCS Teams in order of combined performance ratings after 2 games:
These are not rankings, but ratings using projected results vs the actual results as to how the teams played.
Examples: Palo Alto was projected to lose to both S.I. & HMB and won both contests including a blow-out of HMB, so Paly gets high scores for both games. If a team is projected to win by 21 points & wins by 3 then a lower score, while a team projected to win by 3 and wins by 21 then a higher score. It is simply a scoring system based upon projections, the other teams rating and how many points each team scores.
It is an attempt to see which teams played above or below their potential capabilities. I don't know at all how accurate "performance ratings" actually are & a bit confusing as well, but always fun to play with the numbers so to speak.
Here are the CCS teams in order of combined performance ratings for the first 2 games. Not using all teams in CCS [96 teams total] this list of 15 is from the Top 20 CCS teams as currently ranked by Freeman's. I listed the actual rankings in CCS currently below so fans can see the difference.
PERFORMANCE RATINGS
1. Serra
2. M-A
3. SF
4. Wilcox
5. Palo Alto
6. Mitty
7. VC
8. Aptos
9. Los Gatos
10. Terra Nova
11. Palma
12. Gilroy
13. Carmel
14. Live Oak
15. SHP
CCS RANKING CURRENTLY:
1. Serra
2. SF
3. M-A
4.Wilcox
5. Mitty
6. Aptos
7. VC
8. Paly
9. Los Gatos
10. Gilroy
11. Carmel
12. Terra Nova
13. HMB
14. Milpitas
15. Palma
SAME - HIGHER - LOWER [performance vs ranking]
1. Serra - same
2. SF - lower [but 3rd highest score still]
3. M-A higher
4. Wilcox - same
5. Mitty - lower
6. Aptos - lower
7. VC - same
8. Paly - higher
9. Los Gatos - same
10. Gilroy - lower
11. Carmel - lower
12. Terra Nova - higher
13. HMB - too low to make top 15 performer's
14. Milpitas - too low to make top 15 performer's
15. Palma - higher
* Live Oak currently ranked 17th is rated #14 of top 15 performer's.
* SHP currently ranked 20th is rated #15 of top 15 performer's.
Conclusion: 6 teams beating expectations so far are M-A, Palo Alto, Terra Nova, Palma, Live Oak & SHP.
5 teams currently meeting expectations: Serra, SF [3rd highest score], Wilcox, VC & Los Gatos.
4 teams performing below expectations: Mitty, Aptos, Gilroy, Carmel.
2 teams still somehow ranked, but under performed enough not to make the list: HMB & Milpitas [look for both these teams to drop further in rankings].
* Keep your eye on the 6 teams beating expectations as they should move up in rankings as the season progresses.
Here is an example of how early season computer rankings are suspect. Your rating has Gilroy at 12 and a ranking of 10. Gilroy lost their first game to Liberty (as expected) by a score of 57 to 0...with 50 points scored in the first half. Gilroy then beat Soledad 15 to 13....a Soledad team that lost to Palma in week one by a 52 to 6 score. No way Gilroy deserves to be rated or ranked so high.
As for Carmel I agree with prepwisdom that it is hard to believe the Padres are performing below expectations. Nobody expected them to beat Salinas, but they did. "Everyone" expected them to beat NMC, and they did. How does a "nobody expected" plus an "everyone expected" equal a "below expectations"? Carmel is a small public school in a mid-tier B league. Let's see how the season goes before rating or ranking them with these other teams.
There's a reason Calpreps says their rating system isn't accurate enough until October. Computer ratings are useless right now and I think everyone in this thread would agree that Carmel, Aptos, and Mitty are definitely not under performing anything at this point.
For the WCAL, this coming weekend will decide if the league can somehow avoid ending the 2018 pre-season with a losing record. WCAL teams are currently 7-9 overall; to get even, they need to go 5-3 this week. It won't be easy but it is possible. Going 6-2 seems out of the question.
There's a reason Calpreps says their rating system isn't accurate enough until October. Computer ratings are useless right now and I think everyone in this thread would agree that Carmel, Aptos, and Mitty are definitely not under performing anything at this point.
Thats because WCAL schools schedule up... All the publics schedule cupcakes. Thats why when playoffs roll around all the WCAL schools are battled tested.
WCAL & Top CCS Teams in order of combined performance ratings after 2 games
The analysis I'll be the first to agree is a bit complicated to understand and that early in the season can appear somewhat unreliable, but there is a factual basis to it. The performance ratings are not something I made up and the rankings are what they are. Fans will always argue about who is too high or too low and that is just part of the discussion. So again - NOT my ratings or rankings, simply posting the order of teams and explaining to degree how they are based. I will address a couple post comments to see if I can explain them to any degree to posters.
"Carmel performing below expectations??!! They go into the "pit" and come away with a convincing win over a large school highly rated ( at least in the southern ccs) Salinas team and then annihilate an average North County team and thats performing below expectations. Wow!"
OK so let's take a look at Carmel presently ranked as the 11th best team in CCS. Carmel had a good victory over the 16th ranked team Salinas by 36-23 and a blow-out 58-0 win over a weak North Monterey County team [ranked 66th of 94 CCS teams]. Salinas was not in the performance ratings as has only played the one game. So far so good it would seem for Carmel. Looking at the 2 teams Carmel & Salinas the Carmel team returned 18 starters incl skill players as opposed to Salinas returning 8 starters with only one skill player. While Carmel won over Salinas the point differential was likely less than the projected win. The win over North Monterey County didn't help Carmel as the team is ranked/rated much too low.
As for Aptos I was surprised a bit as well by the rating & quite similar to the Carmel situation. Aptos #6 ranked had what appeared to be a solid win over #18 Aragon by 56-21. Aptos other win 55-6 was against Templeton from the Central section who is rated right along with North Monterey County [Templeton ranked #78 of 104 Central section teams]. Similar to Carmel the win over Templeton did not help Aptos. Aragon is one of the few teams like Salinas who has only played one game and unknown as to how good or bad Aragon is currently [though after the Aptos loss has already dropped in various rankings]. All anyone knows at this point is Salinas & Aragon lost the only game either has played.
"I think everyone in this thread would agree that Carmel, Aptos, and Mitty are definitely not underperforming anything at this point."
Carmel & Aptos each had a win over teams that have played only 1 game [Salinas & Aragon] and no one knows yet how good or bad these 2 teams are other than they both lost [Salinas lost to Carmel by 13 & Aragon lost to Aptos by 35]. The other 2 wins over North Monterey County & Templeton cannot realistically be used to gauge any level of performance since they are on a different level altogether than Carmel & Aptos.
As for Mitty not "underperforming" they were ranked/rated higher than M-A, were projected to win and lost. If fans go back and read the threads and posts the vast majority of fans were convinced Mitty was not only going to win, but by a large margin. I think most Mitty fans believe that Mitty could have - should have beaten M-A if they played at their highest level and didn't play their best A-game last week. Mitty dominated M-A statistically especially in passing 206 yards/3-TD's to 34 yards/2-TD's. Unfortunately for the Monarch's an untimely fumble resulted in a 66-yard TD for M-A and an interception & 44 yard return set up another M-A TD. Mitty also had 2 drives "stall" in the final minutes under a tough M-A defense.
The ratings & rankings early on are definitely difficult to follow and translate accurately to any degree. With each game they become a bit more accurate and if you follow them closely you will see how some teams are rated too high or too low especially early in the season & how that translates as the season progresses.
This week we'll see how the SF Lancer's perform vs DLS. St. Francis looks solid, but that DLS "D" looks mighty imposing.
You can argue that M-A under-performed vs. Mitty and should have (could have) won by a lot more. That argument works both ways.
Rmbr26- I get that the system takes a while to come into focus. However- in your above assessment of Carmel you make it sound like they were favored to beat Salinas by even more than they did. That is simply not true- they were the under dog across the board.
Rmbr26- N. county was ranked 66th before they played Carmel? or after? Just trying to get the facts. ( not implying that N. County is a strong team- but they were 1-0 ( Beating N . Salinas the prior week ) Hard for me to believe they were # 66 at 1-0 after week one. I have seen no evidence that Carmel is "under performing" no matter what system is utilized. Time will tell how good they are.
Not saying I disagree at all with that line of thinking. If I told you between 2 teams that one QB passed for 206 yards & 3 TD's and the other QB completed 4 passes for 34 yards & 2 TD's, which team would you guess won?
Mitty dominated statistically but miscues cost them 2 TD's. Any team can have miscues, however in this case that same team dominated on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure a 2nd game would have the same results is all.
Ncpfan - having been there & seen the game in person you’d have the best insight as to who was the better team. Not being there I can only go by the stats: Mitty 204 yards/3TD’s passing, M-A 34 yards/2TD’s passing. Good write up of game though & that you think M-A should have won by more.
What happened to M-A’s other 2 QB’s?
So what time is the Riordan game?you have all the other games, but not Riordan?WCAL Football 2018 - This Week's Games
Mitty 1-1 at Acalanes 2-1 Friday 7:00 PM
Bell's 1-1 at Vintage 1-2 [Napa] Friday 7:00 PM
Serra 1-1 at Pitt 1-2 Friday &;00 PM
SHC 1-1 hosts Homestead 0-2 Friday 7:00 PM
SF 2-0 at DLS 3-0 Friday 7:30 PM
VC 1-1 hosts Clovis West 0-3 Friday 7:00 PM
Riordan 0-2 at Napa 0-3
S.I. 0-2 at Gonzaga Prep-WA 0-1 at Spokane 6:00 PM Saturday
DLS is at SF this week.WCAL Football 2018 - This Week's Games
Mitty 1-1 at Acalanes 2-1 Friday 7:00 PM
Bell's 1-1 at Vintage 1-2 [Napa] Friday 7:00 PM
Serra 1-1 at Pitt 1-2 Friday &;00 PM
SHC 1-1 hosts Homestead 0-2 Friday 7:00 PM
SF 2-0 at DLS 3-0 Friday 7:30 PM
VC 1-1 hosts Clovis West 0-3 Friday 7:00 PM
Riordan 0-2 at Napa 0-3
S.I. 0-2 at Gonzaga Prep-WA 0-1 at Spokane 6:00 PM Saturday
[B said:"Danigyrl,[/B] post: 207203, member: 4370"]DLS is at SF this week.